new amiga 500 doom like ! - Page 60

ScottC2010 · 24 October 2021, 02:43

Hi,
I thought i would share a pick of my cdtv and also one of my T1910 486's running doom at the same time

Mathesar · 24 October 2021, 07:52

Really, really cool these updates!
These multiple height levels really look mindblowing.

rothers · 24 October 2021, 12:52

It will be quite something to see the A500 finally run doom levels.

KK unlocks the 100% Amiga achievement!

ScottC2010 · 24 October 2021, 13:29

Decided to support on Patreon - i was blown away playing the latest update on my cdtv, was fun to run it along side one of my 486's

d4rk3lf · 24 October 2021, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothers

It will be quite something to see the A500 finally run doom levels.

KK unlocks the 100% Amiga achievement!

Well, we have to be realistic on the Doom maps, because later levels on Doom, are really large (both in height and width), and I suppose Dread can't handle them on plain 7Mhz A500 with just 1MB of Ram.

rothers · 24 October 2021, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4rk3lf

Well, we have to be realistic on the Doom maps, because later levels on Doom, are really large (both in height and width), and I suppose Dread can't handle them on plain 7Mhz A500 with just 1MB of Ram.

Fortunately for us ID made a version of Doom for 1MB systems, the maps just have fewer textures.

I don't mind it being cut down at all, it's just fun to see it.

ScottC2010 · 31 October 2021, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothers

Fortunately for us ID made a version of Doom for 1MB systems, the maps just have fewer textures.

I don't mind it being cut down at all, it's just fun to see it.

Do you know where i can download the 1MB version?

rothers · 31 October 2021, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottC2010

Do you know where i can download the 1MB version?

Pretty much any 90s console port is the 1MB version.

I believe ID did the Jag port themselves, then the other ports are a port of that.

utri007 · 02 November 2021, 08:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothers

Pretty much any 90s console port is the 1MB version.

I believe ID did the Jag port themselves, then the other ports are a port of that.

Amigas with 68030 cpu would benefit if any of doom ports could support these 1mb versions, they should be quite much faster..

gimbal · 02 November 2021, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4rk3lf

Well, we have to be realistic on the Doom maps, because later levels on Doom, are really large (both in height and width), and I suppose Dread can't handle them on plain 7Mhz A500 with just 1MB of Ram.

the extra Ultimate Doom episode maybe, but what you describe is mostly Doom 2 which was made for higher specs. Back in the day we were running Doom on a 386 DX 40 and we pretty much stuck with Doom 1 because Doom 2, if we could even get it to boot with 4mb of memory which was a challenge, ran even worse than Doom 1

The point is that the original Doom 1 trio episodes of maps are pretty basic and maybe doable for the A1200 version of Dread. But who would want that? I quote Civvie11 in his hilarious Hedon video:

"For anyone making a game in GZDoom, a pox on you for making another demon shooter in hell again!"

Let's not try to create Doom in Dread, it needs to be its own thing.

d4rk3lf · 02 November 2021, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

Let's not try to create Doom in Dread, it needs to be its own thing.

Yeah, that's perfectly fine with me.

Yet, people are really curious about it (and that's also perfectly fine with me) , and even KK himself did a video with variable heights (1st Doom level), that I hope he will soon share.

I've played and finished first Doom 1 trio episodes, and from what I recall, there were some giant elevators, and some huge maps... it's been a while... maybe Dread will be able to handle it.. dunno... just saying that is already impressive as is, and I wouldn't be disappointed if it can't handle some of the Doom maps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

Amigas with 68030 cpu would benefit if any of doom ports could support these 1mb versions, they should be quite much faster..

It's already butter smooth on my 68000/14Mhz, with some fast Ram.

With 030 you could run Red Dead Redemption 2 in Dread engine ( I am kidding, but you get the point

).

Mathesar · 28 November 2021, 10:07

For those not active on discord. Any news?

trixster · 28 November 2021, 11:05

Multiplayer, doom E1M1 map. But it does not seem like new demos or videos are available anymore unless you are a Patreon

Vstech · 28 November 2021, 18:33

looking over this thread is difficult...
hard to tell what game is being discussed.

is this Breathless? I thought it was AGA only?

what game is this?

Tsak · 28 November 2021, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vstech

looking over this thread is difficult...
hard to tell what game is being discussed.

is this Breathless? I thought it was AGA only?

what game is this?

It's a new WIP game called 'Dread'. It's a first person shooter for a500. There's a whole series in youtube about the game's development. Here's the latest episode : [ Show youtube player ]
There's also a 1 level demo you can try yourself

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathesar

For those not active on discord. Any news?

Too many news to list but here are some:
- The community is currently super active and there are several maps made already (at some point we'll release a community pack with these levels).
- New SDKs are released every month with tons of extra features. Latest SDK included (among others) switches and all sorts of triggers (enemy spawns, teleporting, open/close doors and walls e.t.c.) as well as variable map loading and maps testing via UAE.
- KK has already prototyped variable heights and stairs and he is currently optimising the engine.
- There's also a deathmatch mode via serial that is currently in the works.
- On the gfx side we have quadrupled the available textures, added several new items and there's also a new enemy coming soon.

Gzegzolka · 28 November 2021, 20:36

Nice

malko · 29 November 2021, 00:19

@Tsak : Thanks for the news. It's greatly appreciated

@KK : Sad that actually don't post here as often as you used to do...

invent · 29 November 2021, 00:36

Hi Malko, please consider joining Discord, channel is very active (so much so I had to mute it) but if you need your Dread fix its well worth visiting

https://discord.gg/5mhfkHtF6d

Top stuff Tsak, love your work

nikosidis · 29 November 2021, 06:28

If you do not have much time but still like to support and follow this project I recommend you join here.

https://www.patreon.com/kk_altair/posts

It is a lot of stuff happening so it is well worth the money.
You even get new maps to try out.

Mathesar · 29 November 2021, 09:42

That new monster is beautifully pixeled!
Great to hear about the other new features as well.
But, if I may ask... is music being worked on?

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24 October 2021, 07:52	#1182
Mathesar Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 695	Really, really cool these updates! These multiple height levels really look mindblowing.

24 October 2021, 12:52	#1183
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24 October 2021, 13:29	#1184
ScottC2010 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Leamington Spa / Warwickshire Posts: 532	Decided to support on Patreon - i was blown away playing the latest update on my cdtv, was fun to run it along side one of my 486's

28 November 2021, 10:07	#1192
Mathesar Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 695	For those not active on discord. Any news?

28 November 2021, 11:05	#1193
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,337	Multiplayer, doom E1M1 map. But it does not seem like new demos or videos are available anymore unless you are a Patreon

28 November 2021, 18:33	#1194
Vstech Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: BELMONT Posts: 31	looking over this thread is difficult... hard to tell what game is being discussed. is this Breathless? I thought it was AGA only? what game is this?

28 November 2021, 20:36	#1196
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	Nice

29 November 2021, 00:19	#1197
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	@Tsak : Thanks for the news. It's greatly appreciated @KK : Sad that actually don't post here as often as you used to do...

29 November 2021, 00:36	#1198
invent pixels Join Date: May 2014 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 476	Hi Malko, please consider joining Discord, channel is very active (so much so I had to mute it) but if you need your Dread fix its well worth visiting https://discord.gg/5mhfkHtF6d Top stuff Tsak, love your work

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29 November 2021, 09:42	#1200
Mathesar Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 695	That new monster is beautifully pixeled! Great to hear about the other new features as well. But, if I may ask... is music being worked on?

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