xtreme racing really that slow?

09 April 2002, 17:03

I've got xtreme racing and it runs quite nicley on a blizzard 030 a1200, but under winUAE it's dirt slow. I'm running on a p400, and most other games I try are at least playable - am I destined to be unable to play this under emulation, or has anyone been able to get a bit of speed out of it?

Tim Janssen · 09 April 2002, 17:24

I have an AMD Athlon 1.8 Ghz, 512 Mb memory and a 64 Mb Geforce 3 under its belt and still Xtreme Racing runs quite slow in WinUAE. There is a way to speed things up a bit. My description may be a bit vague because I don't have access to WinUAE at the moment;
There is a tab in the WinUAE- settings where one can adjust the amount of memory from 0 to 8 MB. It is in the tab used for PPC-screens and screen-update. If you choose the maximum setting the screenupdate will dramatically increase.

Tim Janssen · 22 April 2002, 09:42

Lately I have tried to play Xtreme Racing and found out the game can get very slow indeed on my fast PC. In WinUAE I emulated a 68040 processor and turned the JIT-settings to 8 Mb (see attached picture). First the game runs very smooth, but when the car you control crashes in a wall or another car, the game begins to skip frames although WinUAE states the game still runs at 50 frames per second (again see picture). I can solve this problem by quickly switching between the emulator setup-window and the game but it is far from ideal.

Has anyone else experienced the same problem and is this caused by WinUAE or Xtreme Racing itself?

Galahad/FLT · 22 April 2002, 20:20

Good as PC's are, good as WinUAE is, emulating the Amiga's copper chip is a chore for the PC, and Xtreme Racing is displayed using the Copper chip. This isn't really an emulator issue, its a PC Speed issue, the PC has to interpret just about nearly every pixel every frame. 17 year old design foxes modern day PC's..... makes you glad to be alive!

Tim Janssen · 23 April 2002, 10:46

You are probably right, Galahad. Looking at the scrolling in games like Ruff 'n'Tumble nothing can beat the real thing.
I still think it is odd that Xtreme Racing runs supersmooth the first couple of minutes and then suddenly starts skipping frames.

Toni Wilen · 23 April 2002, 11:42

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Looking at the scrolling in games like Ruff 'n'Tumble nothing can beat the real thing.

Try recent WinUAE + vsync (at 100Hz) and be surprised

(if you have fast enough PC to handle full frame rate without skips)

Quote:

I can solve this problem by quickly switching between the emulator setup-window and the game but it is far from ideal.

This kind of slowdowns are usually caused when sound gets out of sync. Does it work without slowdowns if you disable sound?

andreas · 23 April 2002, 20:37

Quote:

Try recent WinUAE + vsync (at 100Hz) and be surprised
(if you have fast enough PC to handle full frame rate without skips)

what if my monitor can't do more than 95 Hz?

Bad luck, eh?

Tim Janssen · 25 April 2002, 10:18

@Tony,
I have disabled the sound synchronisation and Xtreme Racing works fine now. Many thanks.
It seems WinUAE hit the boundaries of my recently purchased PC.

Fred the Fop · 26 April 2002, 21:37

Tim, I have had terrible graphics bugs on this game..what version of WinUAE did you use? Is it possible to post the config here for me?

Thanks

Oh, and turning off the sound alaways speeds things on WinUAE..but it may run too fast.

Tim Janssen · 29 April 2002, 08:28

Hi Frederic,
I am using WinUAE Release 3, November 2001 under Windows XP.
The configuration I use emulates a 68040 CPU Amiga with maximal slow and fast memory. I will upload my configuration as soon as possible (probably Wednesday).

Tim Janssen · 01 May 2002, 08:22

Here is the configuration I use when playing Xtreme Racing. If you want fast screenupdate, turn the JIT-settings to 8Mb and turn off synchronised sound.

Good luck.

Twistin'Ghost · 08 May 2002, 08:01

If anyone would like more info on this brill game, check out this site:

XTreme Racing

You can download lzh files of: the game (ready for de-archiving to HD), the two datadisks, 1.1b upgrade patch, and an early demo of the game. There's also an interview with Alex Amsel, screenshots, instructions, faq, cheats...and a little blurb stating that the authors are porting the game to... (you guessed it!) GBA!

jmmijo · 08 May 2002, 08:10

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Originally posted by Twistin'Ghost
...and a little blurb stating that the authors are porting the game to... (you guessed it!) GBA!

Next project:

Port the entire world over to GBA :laugh

Perhaps it should be called Gia Boy Advanced

Twistin'Ghost · 08 May 2002, 08:24

I find it particularly interesting how the Amiga community have rallied around this nifty little handheld. Almost universally, users and developers alike!

jmmijo · 08 May 2002, 08:46

It does seem like that doesn't it. But I did notice how Cinemaware actually handed over the reigns to Metro3D for the 3 Stooges port and to Clickboom for the PC edition.

I wonder if they have any of their developement team left there or just the rights to these titles

09 April 2002, 17:03	#1
vivash Posts: n/a	xtreme racing really that slow? I've got xtreme racing and it runs quite nicley on a blizzard 030 a1200, but under winUAE it's dirt slow. I'm running on a p400, and most other games I try are at least playable - am I destined to be unable to play this under emulation, or has anyone been able to get a bit of speed out of it?

09 April 2002, 17:24	#2
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Graphic memory settings in WinUAE I have an AMD Athlon 1.8 Ghz, 512 Mb memory and a 64 Mb Geforce 3 under its belt and still Xtreme Racing runs quite slow in WinUAE. There is a way to speed things up a bit. My description may be a bit vague because I don't have access to WinUAE at the moment; There is a tab in the WinUAE- settings where one can adjust the amount of memory from 0 to 8 MB. It is in the tab used for PPC-screens and screen-update. If you choose the maximum setting the screenupdate will dramatically increase.

22 April 2002, 09:42	#3
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Xtreme slowdown Lately I have tried to play Xtreme Racing and found out the game can get very slow indeed on my fast PC. In WinUAE I emulated a 68040 processor and turned the JIT-settings to 8 Mb (see attached picture). First the game runs very smooth, but when the car you control crashes in a wall or another car, the game begins to skip frames although WinUAE states the game still runs at 50 frames per second (again see picture). I can solve this problem by quickly switching between the emulator setup-window and the game but it is far from ideal. Has anyone else experienced the same problem and is this caused by WinUAE or Xtreme Racing itself? Attached Thumbnails

22 April 2002, 20:20	#4
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,018	Xtreme Racing Good as PC's are, good as WinUAE is, emulating the Amiga's copper chip is a chore for the PC, and Xtreme Racing is displayed using the Copper chip. This isn't really an emulator issue, its a PC Speed issue, the PC has to interpret just about nearly every pixel every frame. 17 year old design foxes modern day PC's..... makes you glad to be alive!

23 April 2002, 10:46	#5
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Maybe you are right... You are probably right, Galahad. Looking at the scrolling in games like Ruff 'n'Tumble nothing can beat the real thing. I still think it is odd that Xtreme Racing runs supersmooth the first couple of minutes and then suddenly starts skipping frames.

25 April 2002, 10:18	#8
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Disabling sound synch has its effect @Tony, I have disabled the sound synchronisation and Xtreme Racing works fine now. Many thanks. It seems WinUAE hit the boundaries of my recently purchased PC.

26 April 2002, 21:37	#9
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 56 Posts: 2,808	Tim, I have had terrible graphics bugs on this game..what version of WinUAE did you use? Is it possible to post the config here for me? Thanks Oh, and turning off the sound alaways speeds things on WinUAE..but it may run too fast.

29 April 2002, 08:28	#10
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Xtreme Configuration Hi Frederic, I am using WinUAE Release 3, November 2001 under Windows XP. The configuration I use emulates a 68040 CPU Amiga with maximal slow and fast memory. I will upload my configuration as soon as possible (probably Wednesday).

01 May 2002, 08:22	#11
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	WinUAE Configuration Here is the configuration I use when playing Xtreme Racing. If you want fast screenupdate, turn the JIT-settings to 8Mb and turn off synchronised sound. Good luck.

08 May 2002, 08:01	#12
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	If anyone would like more info on this brill game, check out this site: XTreme Racing You can download lzh files of: the game (ready for de-archiving to HD), the two datadisks, 1.1b upgrade patch, and an early demo of the game. There's also an interview with Alex Amsel, screenshots, instructions, faq, cheats...and a little blurb stating that the authors are porting the game to... (you guessed it!) GBA!

08 May 2002, 08:24	#14
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	I find it particularly interesting how the Amiga community have rallied around this nifty little handheld. Almost universally, users and developers alike!

08 May 2002, 08:46	#15
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	It does seem like that doesn't it. But I did notice how Cinemaware actually handed over the reigns to Metro3D for the 3 Stooges port and to Clickboom for the PC edition. I wonder if they have any of their developement team left there or just the rights to these titles

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