download on PC, play on AMIGA

26 March 2002, 10:32

Hi all

I browsed through your *excellent* message board...but I don't seem to find the answer to my question. Call me stupid, but I'm gonna ask it again...:]

I have recently purchased an AMIGA 500....now, I also own a PC with an internet connection. I download a couple of games from this site, which are in .ADF format... Now I need a little prog or something (for PC!) to format a disk to the AMIGA format and put this dl'ed game on it, in order to play it on my AMIGA.

I saw a couple of threads about this recommending to use programs like ADFBlitz, Diskwiz, Transdisk et al. but I figured out these are AMIGA programs......I don't seem to get how this should work, then?

Thanks in advance,
Arnoud

** if possible, please address your reply to my email: Arnoud@rel.nl **

Drake1009 · 26 March 2002, 13:01

Now's the point I point you to the link right above this post (in case someone else posts another thread before it's this link

http://eab.abime.net/forumdisplay.php?forumid=30

The Amiga tutorial would be a good place to start, there's a couple of tips on how to transfer between Amiga and PC.

26 March 2002, 15:09

thank you... I read the FAQ and it's all clear to me now, except for the fact that I can't compress ADF files (approx. 900 Kb) enough to fit on an 720 Kb disk!

Help! what the deal with that?

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Paul · 26 March 2002, 15:32

Try this
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3280

26 March 2002, 15:48

Thank you o mighty Green Amiga Alien

It's gettin pretty tricky all in all but I'm sure it will work in the end.

Paul · 26 March 2002, 16:38

Using 720k ms-dos floppies is painful but can be done and having a 2nd external drive on the amiga helps.

This is my system I use ATM to transfer back to Amiga disk using DMS.

1. In winuae I boot into workbench and open a shell/cli window.

2. I press F12 and insert my ADF.

3. To compress the adf with dms, in shell/cli window I type...

DMS READ drivename:filename.dms FROM DF0:

remember to use a harddrive directory and not a hdf.

4. I then quit winuae and open the harddrive directory I saved the dms file to in windows explorer and copy the dms file to a 720k floppy.

4b. If the dms file is too big I use Splitz to split the file up in winuae and copy the 2 parts onto 2 720k floppies. I then use Joinz to join the dms file back together on the real Amiga

5. Now I boot with the multidos Amiga disk and insert the pc 720k disk in my 2nd DF1 drive and copy the dms file to work.

6. I then removed multidos Amiga disk and rebooted my HD.

7. I then opened a shell/cli window and type...

DMS WRITE drivename:filename.dms TO DF0:

and when asked insert a blank disk.

26 March 2002, 16:56

errrrm...okay

this makes my head spin a little .

but I'll just try it using ADFBlitz first...

thank you for explaining!

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26 March 2002, 20:19

I wonder if your ram will be sufficient for this.

27 March 2002, 09:47

I posted this question also in the other thread..

I can't read a MSDOS disk (720K) on my amiga. According to
the tutorial, the command for this to work is

MOUNT PC0:

The system then replies: ''device PC0 not recognised''

I have an AMIGA 500 with 1 MB

yes I am a newbie

27 March 2002, 11:52

does anyone know the name of this other program?
and how can I put it on my amiga if can't read PC disks?

:eek don't look at me! I only have *stupid* questions sorry

Paul · 27 March 2002, 12:09

I think MultiDos works with OS 1.3, but can't remember

Some info...
http://www.zip.com.au/~gharris/faq/Ami-PC_FAQ.txt
http://planetbluejooz2.homestead.com/faq1.html

Quote:

Amiga Computing coverdisk 3 (August 1992), contains Arcadia, FileOFax, MultiDos and NClick2
http://www.amiga-stuff.com/forsale.html

From www.multiline.com.au/~gross/network.htm using google cache as this site seems dead.

Quote:

2. IBM filing systems or Using IBM 720K disks on your Amiga.

If you are using a workbench 2.0 or later machine multidos is a very useful program to download from Aminet for formatting and reading/writing IBM 720 DSDD disks. This is very reliable.

If you are still using workbench1.3 then you can try msh.lha and multidos though I have not had very much success with these programs using wb1.3. If anyone knows how to set them up correctly please let me know.

I have been able to read and write to IBM 720k disks using msh.lha or messydos but have been unable to format any disks.

Multidos allows me to format MSDOS disks for use on an IBM but then when I go to access the disk from the amiga the program crashes.

If you are unable to obtain the MSH or crossdos programs for formatting 720K IBM disks on your Amiga you can try out the Warlocks Transfer program which works on Workbench 1.3 with amigabasic and a nullmodem cable. It sounds very messy and is undoubtably a last resort. I suppose the trick is to transfer a better small terminal program with warlock and then use that. Good luck.

27 March 2002, 12:54

thanks everybody for givin me the good advices you have..

I now begin to see all the complications involved in getting games off the net into the amiga and since I'm a particular non-techie I'll call it a quit... back to diskcopy again...

27 March 2002, 13:15

one prog that DOES work in Wb1.3 is dos-2-dos. Thats what i use for reading DOS disks on the Amiga.

Good luck Arnoud! I have Wb1.3 and 1meg memory too and converting from ADF to Amiga disk is nigh on impossible!
(The main problem is that every prog wants the ADF file. Understandable, but i have no way of storing the 900k ADF file! It wont fit on a disk nor in RAM

and i dont have a HD).

27 March 2002, 13:44

You can slice the ADF in pieces with a program called chunker and glue it back together on the amiga with it, too

But then the RAM isn't big enough is it?

I think I'm gonna cry now

RetroMan · 27 March 2002, 13:47

If you split up the files, you don´t need to join them on Amiga to write them back, just use TRANSDISK that comes with WinUAE on your Amiga to write the half floppy to disc, transfer the second half and write that to disc too (try TRANSDISK --HELP) for an explanation how to do it

27 March 2002, 14:01

okay...
but will I have enough RAM to do all this?

RetroMan · 27 March 2002, 14:03

A splitted ADF got exactly 440KB, so I think it should even work with 512KB

27 March 2002, 14:43

aight

so...let me see..

1. download an ADF
2. chunk it in reasonable pieces (say 2x 440 Kb)
3. put it on 2 720 Kb DOS formatted disks
4. start the AMIGA with WB1.3 and dos2dos
5. copy the first part of the ADF to RAM disk
6. format a disk for amiga
7. use transdisk to write the first part of the ADF to disk
8. delete the first part of the ADF and copy the second
9. use transdisk to write the second part of the ADF to disk
10. restart the amiga with the disk inserted
11. play game?

is this in any way possible? Or am I heavily mistakin'?
I'm not too techie so please help me out

RetroMan · 27 March 2002, 15:41

That´s exactly the way it should work

27 March 2002, 16:22

HOORAAAYYY:bounce

me's happy!

but now for the final question...the one million bucks..

how the hell do I get dos2dos on my amiga if it can't read
PC flops? I have to have it on an amiga flop, right?

Anyone know where to purchase this?

26 March 2002, 10:32	#1
Arnoud Posts: n/a	download on PC, play on AMIGA Hi all I browsed through your excellent message board...but I don't seem to find the answer to my question. Call me stupid, but I'm gonna ask it again...:] I have recently purchased an AMIGA 500....now, I also own a PC with an internet connection. I download a couple of games from this site, which are in .ADF format... Now I need a little prog or something (for PC!) to format a disk to the AMIGA format and put this dl'ed game on it, in order to play it on my AMIGA. I saw a couple of threads about this recommending to use programs like ADFBlitz, Diskwiz, Transdisk et al. but I figured out these are AMIGA programs......I don't seem to get how this should work, then? Thanks in advance, Arnoud if possible, please address your reply to my email: Arnoud@rel.nl

26 March 2002, 15:09	#3
Arnoud Posts: n/a	thankz! but...LHA compresses to little thank you... I read the FAQ and it's all clear to me now, except for the fact that I can't compress ADF files (approx. 900 Kb) enough to fit on an 720 Kb disk! Help! what the deal with that? //admin: please don't use direct signature in your post, configure your UserCP instead.

26 March 2002, 16:38	#6
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Using 720k ms-dos floppies is painful but can be done and having a 2nd external drive on the amiga helps. This is my system I use ATM to transfer back to Amiga disk using DMS. 1. In winuae I boot into workbench and open a shell/cli window. 2. I press F12 and insert my ADF. 3. To compress the adf with dms, in shell/cli window I type... DMS READ drivename:filename.dms FROM DF0: remember to use a harddrive directory and not a hdf. 4. I then quit winuae and open the harddrive directory I saved the dms file to in windows explorer and copy the dms file to a 720k floppy. 4b. If the dms file is too big I use Splitz to split the file up in winuae and copy the 2 parts onto 2 720k floppies. I then use Joinz to join the dms file back together on the real Amiga 5. Now I boot with the multidos Amiga disk and insert the pc 720k disk in my 2nd DF1 drive and copy the dms file to work. 6. I then removed multidos Amiga disk and rebooted my HD. 7. I then opened a shell/cli window and type... DMS WRITE drivename:filename.dms TO DF0: and when asked insert a blank disk. Last edited by Paul; 26 March 2002 at 16:45.

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26 March 2002, 13:01	#2
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Now's the point I point you to the link right above this post (in case someone else posts another thread before it's this link http://eab.abime.net/forumdisplay.php?forumid=30 The Amiga tutorial would be a good place to start, there's a couple of tips on how to transfer between Amiga and PC.

26 March 2002, 15:32	#4
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Try this http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3280

26 March 2002, 15:48	#5
Arnoud Posts: n/a	Thank you o mighty Green Amiga Alien It's gettin pretty tricky all in all but I'm sure it will work in the end.

26 March 2002, 16:56	#7
Arnoud Posts: n/a	errrrm...okay this makes my head spin a little . but I'll just try it using ADFBlitz first... thank you for explaining! //admin: please don't use direct signature in your post, configure your UserCP instead.

26 March 2002, 20:19	#8
oldpx Posts: n/a	I wonder if your ram will be sufficient for this.

27 March 2002, 09:47	#9
Arnoud Posts: n/a	I posted this question also in the other thread.. I can't read a MSDOS disk (720K) on my amiga. According to the tutorial, the command for this to work is MOUNT PC0: The system then replies: ''device PC0 not recognised'' I have an AMIGA 500 with 1 MB yes I am a newbie

27 March 2002, 11:52	#10
Arnoud Posts: n/a	does anyone know the name of this other program? and how can I put it on my amiga if can't read PC disks? :eek don't look at me! I only have stupid questions sorry

27 March 2002, 12:54	#12
Arnoud Posts: n/a	thanks everybody for givin me the good advices you have.. I now begin to see all the complications involved in getting games off the net into the amiga and since I'm a particular non-techie I'll call it a quit... back to diskcopy again...

27 March 2002, 13:15	#13
rtj666 Posts: n/a	one prog that DOES work in Wb1.3 is dos-2-dos. Thats what i use for reading DOS disks on the Amiga. Good luck Arnoud! I have Wb1.3 and 1meg memory too and converting from ADF to Amiga disk is nigh on impossible! (The main problem is that every prog wants the ADF file. Understandable, but i have no way of storing the 900k ADF file! It wont fit on a disk nor in RAM and i dont have a HD).

27 March 2002, 13:44	#14
Arnoud Posts: n/a	You can slice the ADF in pieces with a program called chunker and glue it back together on the amiga with it, too But then the RAM isn't big enough is it? I think I'm gonna cry now

27 March 2002, 13:47	#15
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	If you split up the files, you don´t need to join them on Amiga to write them back, just use TRANSDISK that comes with WinUAE on your Amiga to write the half floppy to disc, transfer the second half and write that to disc too (try TRANSDISK --HELP) for an explanation how to do it

27 March 2002, 14:01	#16
Arnoud Posts: n/a	okay... but will I have enough RAM to do all this?

27 March 2002, 14:03	#17
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	A splitted ADF got exactly 440KB, so I think it should even work with 512KB

27 March 2002, 14:43	#18
Arnoud Posts: n/a	aight so...let me see.. 1. download an ADF 2. chunk it in reasonable pieces (say 2x 440 Kb) 3. put it on 2 720 Kb DOS formatted disks 4. start the AMIGA with WB1.3 and dos2dos 5. copy the first part of the ADF to RAM disk 6. format a disk for amiga 7. use transdisk to write the first part of the ADF to disk 8. delete the first part of the ADF and copy the second 9. use transdisk to write the second part of the ADF to disk 10. restart the amiga with the disk inserted 11. play game? is this in any way possible? Or am I heavily mistakin'? I'm not too techie so please help me out

27 March 2002, 15:41	#19
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	That´s exactly the way it should work

27 March 2002, 16:22	#20
Arnoud Posts: n/a	HOORAAAYYY:bounce me's happy! but now for the final question...the one million bucks.. how the hell do I get dos2dos on my amiga if it can't read PC flops? I have to have it on an amiga flop, right? Anyone know where to purchase this?

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