A negative review of Shadow of the Beast - Page 3

blade002 · 28 February 2006, 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromWithin

Got to defend here, obviously. Highly playable Psygnosis games:

Armour-geddon (1+2)
Atomino
Ballistix
Benefactor
Bill's Tomato Game
Blood Money
Bob's Bad Day
Cytron
Globdule
Hired Guns
Infestation
Killing Game Show
Lemmings
Menace
Nitro
Perihelion
Puggsy
Second Samurai
Walker
Wiz'n'Liz

Damn i hate it when someone is right!

All of those games are perfectly playable and i had completely forgotten that Psygnosis had made them. Especially Perihelion which i finished.

I will beg to differ with The Killing Game Show though. that game was insanely difficult!. I still loved it though.

Fred the Fop · 28 February 2006, 12:31

"Killing Game Show" was "Fatal Rewind" on the Genesis and marketed by Electronic Arts. I never tried it, but will do so soon.

comawhite015 · 02 July 2006, 02:37

Bah. It's clunky. It's impossible. It's fucking hard. It's dated. But when I play it I feel six again =D And the music still gives me shivers. So it's still my favourite. So stinky poo to all of you.

*giggle*

THAT SAID : I never could play it without a cheat. In fact when I play it without a cheat I die in like, twelve seconds. And the Game Over bit, whilst extremely pretty, you just WISH you could fucking SKIP so you can start AGAIN but you CAN'T and it's INFURIATING.

I find it hilarious that in the hacked version next to the trainer there's an 'Intro' switch.. that really says a lot. It's pretty and haunting and lovely and personally I never get sick of watching it boot up, but not everyone is such a beastophile. There were many times you just wanted to go 'OMGZ!@#$ MAKE IT GO FASTER' but that's really all it *could* do at the time. We were dealing with like, tiny TEENY 512k rammy bits and processors that just make an autistic child with maths problems laugh their asses off.. BUT, it was still badass.. Which is more than you can say for a lot of stuff around at the time, and even most/all the PC stuff that was around even til the mid nineties.. and I'm ranting..

Dynamite Dux. Nuff said. tee hee.

Minuous · 02 July 2006, 21:07

Quote:

It's pretty and haunting and lovely and personally I never get sick of watching it boot up, but not everyone is such a beastophile. There were many times you just wanted to go 'OMGZ!@#$ MAKE IT GO FASTER' but that's really all it *could* do at the time. We were dealing with like, tiny TEENY 512k rammy bits and processors that just make an autistic child with maths problems laugh their asses off..

There's no technical reason for the intro/death screens to be unskippable of course.

Quote:

Driving around the track backwards in F1 Grand Prix, smashing all the other cars.

Heheh, I do this too, it's the easiest way to win :-)

By the way there was an Atari Lynx version of SOTB, it's quite good.

As far as overrated games go, my vote would be on Xenon 2. But I guess that's a topic for another thread...

comawhite015 · 02 July 2006, 22:56

[quote=Minuous]There's no technical reason for the intro/death screens to be unskippable of course.

Well shit =p. There should be a goddamn button, then. tee hee =D

Minuous · 03 July 2006, 03:49

Indeed. At least the reviewers gave them hell about it in this instance.

Forced waits like that really *really* annoy me. Programmers try to minimize loading times and then put in these crap screens with fade-ins/fade-outs, even when it does listen for a button press it is still annoying.

comawhite015 · 03 July 2006, 04:23

But sometimes very pretty =D

heh, note that in Beast 2 and 3 they both start pretty much instantly after you push the button at the intro screens *giggle*

Zetr0 · 04 July 2006, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

Looking back at all the games Psygnosis did, with very few exceptions, Psygnosis didn't know the first thing about playability.

*sniff* *sobing* that hurts dude..... *sniff*.... what about hired guns!?

truth be said though HG still doesn`t make up for microcosm!!!!!!!

BippyM · 04 July 2006, 13:59

Psygnosis did a few good games imo..

Killing Game Show
Nitro
Lemmings
Hired Guns
Armourgeddon
Armourgeddon II
Benefactor
Blood Money
Brian the Lion
Leander
Walker
Wiz 'n' Liz

in all honesty only armourgeddon was in-house.. the rest were not developed by Psygnosis.. still a good few classics there!

FromWithin · 04 July 2006, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Psygnosis did a few good games imo..
Killing Game Show
Nitro
Lemmings
Hired Guns
Armourgeddon
Armourgeddon II
Benefactor
Blood Money
Brian the Lion
Leander
Walker
Wiz 'n' Liz
in all honesty only armourgeddon was in-house.. the rest were not developed by Psygnosis.. still a good few classics there!

It didn't really work that way. The in-house team was used as a resource for external developers. Most Psygnosis games had some input from the in-house team. Nitro had graphics and levels designed in-house. I did some levels for Hired Guns, and did sound effects for Brian The Lion and Wiz'n'Liz. Wiz 'n' Liz itself (original megadrive version) was developed by Martyn while working in our office and the graphics were by another in-house artist, Mike Waterworth (who, no surprise, now works for Martyn at Bizarre Creations). Killing Game Show graphics were done in-house. The most independent developers that I can think of were DMA, Digital Illusions and Traveller's Tales. Some of those games were totally out-of-house, but not all.

Galahad/FLT · 25 July 2006, 11:03

Mike, were you at Psygnosis when Beast was first shown by Reflections?

If so, forget about playability, but just on pure looks, how did it go down at Psygnosis?

Hillsy_ · 07 August 2006, 15:27

The furthest I got with Shadow of the Beast on the Amiga was when you get the Jet Pack and take on one of the bosses in the Castle. I remember the music changing, and I really liked it. I can't remember anything about the boss though...did he throw out creatures...I can't remember..

Interesting thread this because...

I've been playing Shadow of the Beast on the PC Engine Turbo Duo (CD ROM ROM). This version has a nice Arranged Soundtrack. If you would like to hear alittle of it let me know. I can convert the wav file to Mp3. I also like the fact it has some small movies too. I've managed to get to the castle so far..but no further at the moment..

It may not be the best game ever, but Beast 1 definitely has a certain 'charm' about it.

wanderer · 08 August 2006, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hillsy_

...Interesting thread this because... I've been playing Shadow of the Beast on the PC Engine Turbo Duo (CD ROM ROM). This version has a nice Arranged Soundtrack. If you would like to hear alittle of it let me know. I can convert the wav file to Mp3...

Please send some nice mp3's to the Zone!

DamienD · 08 August 2006, 15:53

I can convert the FM Towns version from .wav --> .mp3 if you like?

Retro-Nerd · 08 August 2006, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderer

Please send some nice mp3's to the Zone!

Grab the US Version here:

http://romhustler.net/roms/pcengine/s

wanderer · 08 August 2006, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I can convert the FM Towns version from .wav --> .mp3 if you like?

Thanks DamienD! As Kodoichi mentioned there's a lot of stuff here but if there's sth. unavailable and you've got it, then Zone it!

DamienD · 08 August 2006, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderer

Thanks DamienD! As Kodoichi mentioned there's a lot of stuff here but if there's sth. unavailable and you've got it, then Zone it!

I know that site Kodoichi mentioned, cool webpage

Yup, unfortunately they don't have the FM Towns version probably as this is quite hard to get...

I'll convert the .wav files --> .mp3 files, zip them up and then upload them to a file hosting site like FileFactory (as I don't want to clog up The Zone!)

I should probably offer them to Titan while I'm at it

DamienD · 09 August 2006, 00:30

Ok guys, I converted the 7 x .wav files from the Shadow of the Beast [FM Towns] image --> .mp3 files using CDex. Hopefully the quality settings are cool for everyone (see image).

I then WinRAR'd all the .mp3 files (38.3Mb) and uploaded it to File Factory. Here's the link:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/d9dc32/

Enjoy

wanderer · 09 August 2006, 01:16

Brilliant ! Sorry, I thought the Pc-Engine is the Fm-Towns... got mixed-up. Downloading right now.

Retro-Nerd · 09 August 2006, 01:17

Thanks for the cdda tracks, Damien. Now i have the complete FM-Towns version.

02 July 2006, 02:37	#43
comawhite015 Put him in the curry! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 40 Posts: 75	Bah. It's clunky. It's impossible. It's fucking hard. It's dated. But when I play it I feel six again =D And the music still gives me shivers. So it's still my favourite. So stinky poo to all of you. giggle THAT SAID : I never could play it without a cheat. In fact when I play it without a cheat I die in like, twelve seconds. And the Game Over bit, whilst extremely pretty, you just WISH you could fucking SKIP so you can start AGAIN but you CAN'T and it's INFURIATING. I find it hilarious that in the hacked version next to the trainer there's an 'Intro' switch.. that really says a lot. It's pretty and haunting and lovely and personally I never get sick of watching it boot up, but not everyone is such a beastophile. There were many times you just wanted to go 'OMGZ!@#$ MAKE IT GO FASTER' but that's really all it could do at the time. We were dealing with like, tiny TEENY 512k rammy bits and processors that just make an autistic child with maths problems laugh their asses off.. BUT, it was still badass.. Which is more than you can say for a lot of stuff around at the time, and even most/all the PC stuff that was around even til the mid nineties.. and I'm ranting.. Dynamite Dux. Nuff said. tee hee. Last edited by comawhite015; 02 July 2006 at 02:49.

09 August 2006, 00:30	#58
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Ok guys, I converted the 7 x .wav files from the Shadow of the Beast [FM Towns] image --> .mp3 files using CDex. Hopefully the quality settings are cool for everyone (see image). I then WinRAR'd all the .mp3 files (38.3Mb) and uploaded it to File Factory. Here's the link: http://www.filefactory.com/file/d9dc32/ Enjoy Attached Thumbnails

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28 February 2006, 12:31	#42
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	"Killing Game Show" was "Fatal Rewind" on the Genesis and marketed by Electronic Arts. I never tried it, but will do so soon.

02 July 2006, 22:56	#45
comawhite015 Put him in the curry! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 40 Posts: 75	[quote=Minuous]There's no technical reason for the intro/death screens to be unskippable of course. Well shit =p. There should be a goddamn button, then. tee hee =D

03 July 2006, 03:49	#46
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	Indeed. At least the reviewers gave them hell about it in this instance. Forced waits like that really really annoy me. Programmers try to minimize loading times and then put in these crap screens with fade-ins/fade-outs, even when it does listen for a button press it is still annoying.

03 July 2006, 04:23	#47
comawhite015 Put him in the curry! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 40 Posts: 75	But sometimes very pretty =D heh, note that in Beast 2 and 3 they both start pretty much instantly after you push the button at the intro screens giggle

04 July 2006, 13:59	#49
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Psygnosis did a few good games imo.. Killing Game Show Nitro Lemmings Hired Guns Armourgeddon Armourgeddon II Benefactor Blood Money Brian the Lion Leander Walker Wiz 'n' Liz in all honesty only armourgeddon was in-house.. the rest were not developed by Psygnosis.. still a good few classics there!

25 July 2006, 11:03	#51
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Mike, were you at Psygnosis when Beast was first shown by Reflections? If so, forget about playability, but just on pure looks, how did it go down at Psygnosis?

07 August 2006, 15:27	#52
Hillsy_ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 51 Posts: 257	The furthest I got with Shadow of the Beast on the Amiga was when you get the Jet Pack and take on one of the bosses in the Castle. I remember the music changing, and I really liked it. I can't remember anything about the boss though...did he throw out creatures...I can't remember.. Interesting thread this because... I've been playing Shadow of the Beast on the PC Engine Turbo Duo (CD ROM ROM). This version has a nice Arranged Soundtrack. If you would like to hear alittle of it let me know. I can convert the wav file to Mp3. I also like the fact it has some small movies too. I've managed to get to the castle so far..but no further at the moment.. It may not be the best game ever, but Beast 1 definitely has a certain 'charm' about it.

08 August 2006, 15:53	#54
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I can convert the FM Towns version from .wav --> .mp3 if you like?

09 August 2006, 01:16	#59
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	Brilliant ! Sorry, I thought the Pc-Engine is the Fm-Towns... got mixed-up. Downloading right now.

09 August 2006, 01:17	#60
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Thanks for the cdda tracks, Damien. Now i have the complete FM-Towns version.

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