Which Zorro Gfx card to buy???

jabsy · 11 May 2007, 11:29

Hello all,

I've got an A4000D which I want to fit a graphics card to. Which one is the best o buy?? It looks to be between a Picasso iV and a Cybervision 64/3D from what I have read. (or I guess it could be neither...)

I dont really have a need for one, I just want one, and I want the best one. Which one do I get???

Oh yeah, I just have the stock 3640.

keropi · 11 May 2007, 12:03

ofcourse 1st choise is the PicassoIV and after the Cybervision64 (NOT the cv64/3D, just plain cv64, it is actually faster...) then as a third choise there is cv64/3D and the piccoloSD64 ... all are good cards, I ranked them in terms of speed... the pIV is excellent, and it has built-in sd/ff ...
the cv64/3d sd/ff is 16bit and you loose some color detail...
good 24bit sd/ff are the Arxon/Compserv ones and the petsoff dblscan4000...

jabsy · 11 May 2007, 14:23

Ace. I've got an Arxon already, so the plain old Cybervision 64 sounds like the way to go.

Any idea of an average price for a Picasso IV these days??? The single slot idea looks tidy.

keropi · 11 May 2007, 14:46

a pIV can cost from 250eur to 400+ based on ebay prices... I got mine from a person in amiga.org for 230eur (just place a wanted ad there) ... pIV has also some other advantages... u can add to it a concierto sound card and a paloma tv-tuner... one slingle slot with rtg+sd/ff+sound+tvtuner (with vhs/svhs inputs!) clearly a space saver!!!!

Zetr0 · 11 May 2007, 15:09

I would have to kinda dissagree a little smidge with the keropi

Indeed the best is the Picasso IV, but the Cyberstorm 64/3D Mk2 is indeed a very good card (i have one) but this is indeed on an expanded 1200 Zorro 2 backplane.

Just did a bit of reading up on the original card on www.amiga-harware.com

Built-in monitor switcher
Hardware support for chunky to planar conversion
Digital video expansion bus.

it then goes on to say that the Cybervision 64 should not be confused with the Cybervision 64/3D, they are completely different graphics cards.

Wich i just did, sorry keropi-san

keropi · 11 May 2007, 15:19

you are forgiven, now gimme your cpu's for redemption!

Zetr0 · 11 May 2007, 15:20

all of them?!

keropi · 11 May 2007, 15:29

you can keep your i8088 ...

jabsy · 11 May 2007, 15:33

Thanks Keropi, but I dont know whether to love you or hate you!!

I just ponied up $US295 for a Picasso IV on Ebay (about EU220) because you made it sound like a bargain. I guess I somehow owe you a beer, but dont think I'll be able to afford it right now.

I hardly use my 4000, but it didn't feel complete without a gfx card. Now to trade the 2065 in on a X-Surf and tidy things up a bit...

I guess I'll have to finally replace the dead mobo in my A2000 so I've got somewhere to plug in the Arxon now. More money. Wouldn't a heroin addiction be cheaper???

Anyway thanks for your feedback Keropi and Zetro.

coze · 11 May 2007, 15:40

Aarrrgghh ! I was camping for that board !

jabsy · 11 May 2007, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

Aarrrgghh ! I was camping for that board !

I guess I can laugh at you for that one, you trumped me on that Cybervision 64 on ebay.au last year!!!!!

I was gonna sweat it out and plop on a $US250 bid and hope for the best, but I remembered that CV64. I wasn't gonna risk losing it for the cost of a carton of beer...

coze · 11 May 2007, 15:57

Haha ! was that you ? I was watching this thread and saying "Keropi ... shut the fuck up man !" I couldn't do a buy it now cause I'm somewhat over my credit limit and I'ld pay a few days later. Now, if I was a nice chap and sold/left you the cv64 back then probabaly I'ld have the picasso now

Argh it's all Karma !

Zetr0 · 11 May 2007, 16:26

indeed karma has a lot to answer for... so does keropi

keropi · 11 May 2007, 16:32

no I'm OK... all your hardware belongs to me...!

alexh · 11 May 2007, 18:43

I notice that the PIV that has just sold used to be in an A2000 so it has been "snapped in two" but at least it is coming with the cables.

If it makes you feel better Cose the reserve was well over $150 (This card has failed to sell on several other occaisions).

keropi · 11 May 2007, 18:47

about the a2000 videoslot, what a lame place to put it on the mobo!!!

(btw, I am borrowing a camera to take pics of the tower alexh)

jabsy · 11 May 2007, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

Haha ! was that you ? I was watching this thread and saying "Keropi ... shut the fuck up man !" I couldn't do a buy it now cause I'm somewhat over my credit limit and I'ld pay a few days later. Now, if I was a nice chap and sold/left you the cv64 back then probabaly I'ld have the picasso now

Argh it's all Karma !

Well the CV64 would have been fine, as I already have an Arxon.

But I would have been spewing if you beat me again.

Ebay sucks. I've spent nearly two grand on this old silicon since xmas.

coze · 11 May 2007, 19:21

hmmm, now that you got the picasso, maybe you can part with the arxxon ?

jabsy · 12 May 2007, 09:49

Hmmm maybe... I'll think about it.

Got a spare x-surf???

Zetr0 · 12 May 2007, 12:12

LOL you guys....

crazy... 2 grand since xmas....

imma thinking its a passion ... oh yes.... a passion indeed.

11 May 2007, 11:29	#1
jabsy Yeah Hup! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 54 Posts: 345	Which Zorro Gfx card to buy??? Hello all, I've got an A4000D which I want to fit a graphics card to. Which one is the best o buy?? It looks to be between a Picasso iV and a Cybervision 64/3D from what I have read. (or I guess it could be neither...) I dont really have a need for one, I just want one, and I want the best one. Which one do I get??? Oh yeah, I just have the stock 3640.

11 May 2007, 15:09	#5
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I would have to kinda dissagree a little smidge with the keropi Indeed the best is the Picasso IV, but the Cyberstorm 64/3D Mk2 is indeed a very good card (i have one) but this is indeed on an expanded 1200 Zorro 2 backplane. Just did a bit of reading up on the original card on www.amiga-harware.com Built-in monitor switcher Hardware support for chunky to planar conversion Digital video expansion bus. it then goes on to say that the Cybervision 64 should not be confused with the Cybervision 64/3D, they are completely different graphics cards. Wich i just did, sorry keropi-san

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11 May 2007, 12:03	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	ofcourse 1st choise is the PicassoIV and after the Cybervision64 (NOT the cv64/3D, just plain cv64, it is actually faster...) then as a third choise there is cv64/3D and the piccoloSD64 ... all are good cards, I ranked them in terms of speed... the pIV is excellent, and it has built-in sd/ff ... the cv64/3d sd/ff is 16bit and you loose some color detail... good 24bit sd/ff are the Arxon/Compserv ones and the petsoff dblscan4000...

11 May 2007, 14:23	#3
jabsy Yeah Hup! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 54 Posts: 345	Ace. I've got an Arxon already, so the plain old Cybervision 64 sounds like the way to go. Any idea of an average price for a Picasso IV these days??? The single slot idea looks tidy.

11 May 2007, 14:46	#4
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	a pIV can cost from 250eur to 400+ based on ebay prices... I got mine from a person in amiga.org for 230eur (just place a wanted ad there) ... pIV has also some other advantages... u can add to it a concierto sound card and a paloma tv-tuner... one slingle slot with rtg+sd/ff+sound+tvtuner (with vhs/svhs inputs!) clearly a space saver!!!!

11 May 2007, 15:19	#6
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	you are forgiven, now gimme your cpu's for redemption!

11 May 2007, 15:20	#7
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	all of them?!

11 May 2007, 15:29	#8
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	you can keep your i8088 ...

11 May 2007, 15:33	#9
jabsy Yeah Hup! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 54 Posts: 345	Thanks Keropi, but I dont know whether to love you or hate you!! I just ponied up $US295 for a Picasso IV on Ebay (about EU220) because you made it sound like a bargain. I guess I somehow owe you a beer, but dont think I'll be able to afford it right now. I hardly use my 4000, but it didn't feel complete without a gfx card. Now to trade the 2065 in on a X-Surf and tidy things up a bit... I guess I'll have to finally replace the dead mobo in my A2000 so I've got somewhere to plug in the Arxon now. More money. Wouldn't a heroin addiction be cheaper??? Anyway thanks for your feedback Keropi and Zetro.

11 May 2007, 15:40	#10
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Aarrrgghh ! I was camping for that board !

11 May 2007, 15:57	#12
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Haha ! was that you ? I was watching this thread and saying "Keropi ... shut the fuck up man !" I couldn't do a buy it now cause I'm somewhat over my credit limit and I'ld pay a few days later. Now, if I was a nice chap and sold/left you the cv64 back then probabaly I'ld have the picasso now Argh it's all Karma !

11 May 2007, 16:26	#13
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	indeed karma has a lot to answer for... so does keropi

11 May 2007, 16:32	#14
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	no I'm OK... all your hardware belongs to me...!

11 May 2007, 18:43	#15
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,466	I notice that the PIV that has just sold used to be in an A2000 so it has been "snapped in two" but at least it is coming with the cables. If it makes you feel better Cose the reserve was well over $150 (This card has failed to sell on several other occaisions).

11 May 2007, 18:47	#16
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	about the a2000 videoslot, what a lame place to put it on the mobo!!! (btw, I am borrowing a camera to take pics of the tower alexh)

11 May 2007, 19:21	#18
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	hmmm, now that you got the picasso, maybe you can part with the arxxon ?

12 May 2007, 09:49	#19
jabsy Yeah Hup! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 54 Posts: 345	Hmmm maybe... I'll think about it. Got a spare x-surf???

12 May 2007, 12:12	#20
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	LOL you guys.... crazy... 2 grand since xmas.... imma thinking its a passion ... oh yes.... a passion indeed.

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