Prometheus - Best Practices? - Page 9

Hedeon · 30 January 2024, 02:49

I cannot say as i cannot test it because i don't have it, but it has been this way since 4.0 to squeeze in 384MB of PPC memory max. If it worked before it should still work. I just saw somebody on an another board asking what happened with 128MB of his Radeon memory.

Radeons with 1 aperture of 256MB will still show 256MB.

Some radeons have a jumper for this.

Doc Leisure · 02 February 2024, 09:48

Hello,

regarding the Prometheus PCI soundcard topic:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipper

It would be nice if the Emu10kx driver could be made to support more cards. For instance, this driver works well with the CT4780 type SbLive! cards, but not with the SB0200 type SbLive! ("Dell OEM"?) ones.
I also had NO success with the SoundBlaster Audigy (SB0570) card even though the AHI driver seems to have some code promising to support Audigy.

I just bought - this quote in mind - a CT4780 "Soundblaster Live!" card to replace my non working "Terratec 512i".

The CT4780 "Soundblaster Live!" is recognized in:
- prmscan
- OpenPCIInfo
- pcibusinfo

The embedded sounddriver in AHI V6 lists the card in AHI prefs and I can perform a "test sound" (-> it beeps)!

HURRAY I thougt, BUT there is nothing more than that "beep". If I start AmigaAMP and play a song - its only this "beep" again - no sound ;-(

Am I missing a thing? Several people reported this card as working...

Interstingly "OpenPCIInfo" prompts out the following:

[...]
Device : EMU10000 Sound Blaster Live! (Also Live! 5.1) - OEM from DELL - CT4780
[...]

Might the "OEM from DELL" be the killing part, as those OEM cards are reported not to work?!

My system config:

Prometheus Board (with DMA Firmware):
Manufacturer ID: 0x0e3b (3643)
Product ID : 0xc8 (200)

RTL8139 NIC - working! with OpenPCI
PPC Apocalype - working with "sonnet.library"
Voodoo 3 (Avenger) - working with "3dfxVoodoo.chip" (Tooltype: DMAsize=2048k)
&
Soundblaster Live! - ???
Terratec 512i - ??? (someone told me, it wont work anymore with the DMA Firmware)

Any hints or suggestions are welcome.

Best regards

Doc Leisure

Hedeon · 02 February 2024, 10:00

What engine do you use with AmigaAMP? Internal/external/mpeg library....

Did you set the correct device number of AHI?

PPC or 68k

Version 2 or version 3 of AmigaAMP

Doc Leisure · 02 February 2024, 10:37

Hello,

I use the latest version AmigaAMP ("AmigaAMP 3.34 (68k/OS3)") with the "ppc-warpOS.engine" in PlugIns ("WarpUP decoding engine 3.0") for the PPC Board. This works flawlessly with PAULA AHI-mode(s) - so I guess it works.

Soundcard wise I have chosen for the AHI device #2 "EMU10000 stereo" (dont remember the exact phrase) mode and for AHI device #3 "EMU10000 stereo++" mode. And the device numbers are also chosen in the AmigaAMP prefs accordingly.
--> PAULA output (AHI device #0) works on A4000 mainboard chinch
--> EMU10000 output (AHI device #2 and / or #3) result in a "beep" on the soundcard output - as long as AmigaAMP is opened (if closed the "beep" ends)

Is there anything obviously wrong in my setup?

Best regards

Doc Leisure

Hedeon · 03 February 2024, 09:34

Prometheus.library version and .card version?

Doc Leisure · 03 February 2024, 16:21

Hello Hedeon,

the versions I use are:
- prometheus.library = 4.5
- prometheus.card = 7.601
- emu10kx.card = 6.5

I tried a setup with the soundcard only (68k & mpega.library) - no change, still only the "beep"...

Best regards

Doc Leisure

grelbfarlk · 03 February 2024, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Leisure

Hello Hedeon,

the versions I use are:
- prometheus.library = 4.5
- prometheus.card = 7.601
- emu10kx.card = 6.5

I tried a setup with the soundcard only (68k & mpega.library) - no change, still only the "beep"...

Best regards

Doc Leisure

What is the PCIID of the Soundblaster?
Is it ven_1102&dev_0006?

Doc Leisure · 04 February 2024, 13:10

Hello grelbfarlk,

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

What is the PCIID of the Soundblaster?
Is it ven_1102&dev_0006?

Yes it is: VendorID: $1102
but...DeviceID: $2 (EMU10000 Game Port has DeviceID: $7002)

Best reagrds

Doc Leisure

Hedeon · 04 February 2024, 16:11

I seem to have version 6.10 of the SB driver. I'll send it to you.

Doc Leisure · 04 February 2024, 18:15

Hi Hedeon,

thanks for your hint. I managed to find the "emu10kx.card = 6.1" in an older beta archive of AHI (m68k-amigaos-ahiusr-6.0rc3.lha). I exchanged the "emu10kx.audio" to version 6.1 and later the complete AHI installation, without success. Unfortunately nothing changed.

Maybe I have a "wrong" soundblaster card - are the "known good" one that definitely work?

Best regards

Doc Leisure

Hedeon · 04 February 2024, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by doc leisure

hi hedeon,

thanks for your hint. I managed to find the "emu10kx.card = 6.1" in an older beta archive of ahi (m68k-amigaos-ahiusr-6.0rc3.lha). I exchanged the "emu10kx.audio" to version 6.1 and later the complete ahi installation, without success. Unfortunately nothing changed.

Maybe i have a "wrong" soundblaster card - are the "known good" one that definitely work?

Best regards

doc leisure

6.10 > 6.5 > 6.1

Hedeon · 04 February 2024, 20:31

And I seem to have ahi.device 6.7

Doc Leisure · 05 February 2024, 09:20

Hello Hedeon,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

6.10 > 6.5 > 6.1

This did the trick!!! - Thank you very much! My Soundblaster Live! is up and running :-)

--> "emu10kx.card = 6.10" (post #171) in combination with
--> "ahi.device = 6.7" works!

Best regards

Doc Leisure

Hedeon · 05 February 2024, 10:09

I am confused, did you update ahi.device ? Or did you made a typo with 6.1 and you meant 6.10?

Doc Leisure · 05 February 2024, 11:25

Hello Hedeon,

sorry for the confusion - I read you ">" sign in the wrong way...

"emu10kx.card = 6.10" (from your post #171) is the newest one. I used that one and I also updated my "ahi.device" to Version 6.7 to match your setup best (as you posted in #172).

I corrected my post. Thanks for clarification.

Best reagards

Doc Leisure

Hedeon · 05 February 2024, 12:21

Good to know, also for future questions

Have fun with your sfx card.

Hedeon · 05 February 2024, 15:43

I got this pci to pcie 16x adapter card from ebay that seems to work. 10b5 8112 (vendor/device). No cards bigger than 1x to test but 1x seems to work. Crashes when no card is plugged in. Not sure if that can be fixed (bus error).

But for people that want to test 2x and higher cards.

PainDictator · 08 March 2024, 02:49

Thanks. This made my SBLive work.

However, I have another issue: when my 68060 is set to 100MHz, the 8139 Adapter stops responding shortly after use. At 50MHz it works Fine. Since the Setup is proven and has no issues, I think this is Not related to a Problem with the overclocked CPU. Any ideas?

02 February 2024, 10:37	#164
Doc Leisure Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Berlin Posts: 10	Hello, I use the latest version AmigaAMP ("AmigaAMP 3.34 (68k/OS3)") with the "ppc-warpOS.engine" in PlugIns ("WarpUP decoding engine 3.0") for the PPC Board. This works flawlessly with PAULA AHI-mode(s) - so I guess it works. Soundcard wise I have chosen for the AHI device #2 "EMU10000 stereo" (dont remember the exact phrase) mode and for AHI device #3 "EMU10000 stereo++" mode. And the device numbers are also chosen in the AmigaAMP prefs accordingly. --> PAULA output (AHI device #0) works on A4000 mainboard chinch --> EMU10000 output (AHI device #2 and / or #3) result in a "beep" on the soundcard output - as long as AmigaAMP is opened (if closed the "beep" ends) Is there anything obviously wrong in my setup? Best regards Doc Leisure Last edited by Doc Leisure; 02 February 2024 at 12:38.

05 February 2024, 11:25	#175
Doc Leisure Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Berlin Posts: 10	Hello Hedeon, sorry for the confusion - I read you ">" sign in the wrong way... "emu10kx.card = 6.10" (from your post #171) is the newest one. I used that one and I also updated my "ahi.device" to Version 6.7 to match your setup best (as you posted in #172). I corrected my post. Thanks for clarification. Best reagards Doc Leisure Last edited by Doc Leisure; 05 February 2024 at 11:36.

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30 January 2024, 02:49	#161
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	I cannot say as i cannot test it because i don't have it, but it has been this way since 4.0 to squeeze in 384MB of PPC memory max. If it worked before it should still work. I just saw somebody on an another board asking what happened with 128MB of his Radeon memory. Radeons with 1 aperture of 256MB will still show 256MB. Some radeons have a jumper for this.

02 February 2024, 10:00	#163
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	What engine do you use with AmigaAMP? Internal/external/mpeg library.... Did you set the correct device number of AHI? PPC or 68k Version 2 or version 3 of AmigaAMP

03 February 2024, 09:34	#165
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	Prometheus.library version and .card version?

03 February 2024, 16:21	#166
Doc Leisure Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Berlin Posts: 10	Hello Hedeon, the versions I use are: - prometheus.library = 4.5 - prometheus.card = 7.601 - emu10kx.card = 6.5 I tried a setup with the soundcard only (68k & mpega.library) - no change, still only the "beep"... Best regards Doc Leisure

04 February 2024, 16:11	#169
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	I seem to have version 6.10 of the SB driver. I'll send it to you.

04 February 2024, 18:15	#170
Doc Leisure Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Berlin Posts: 10	Hi Hedeon, thanks for your hint. I managed to find the "emu10kx.card = 6.1" in an older beta archive of AHI (m68k-amigaos-ahiusr-6.0rc3.lha). I exchanged the "emu10kx.audio" to version 6.1 and later the complete AHI installation, without success. Unfortunately nothing changed. Maybe I have a "wrong" soundblaster card - are the "known good" one that definitely work? Best regards Doc Leisure

04 February 2024, 20:31	#172
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	And I seem to have ahi.device 6.7

05 February 2024, 10:09	#174
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	I am confused, did you update ahi.device ? Or did you made a typo with 6.1 and you meant 6.10?

05 February 2024, 12:21	#176
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	Good to know, also for future questions Have fun with your sfx card.

05 February 2024, 15:43	#177
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,002	I got this pci to pcie 16x adapter card from ebay that seems to work. 10b5 8112 (vendor/device). No cards bigger than 1x to test but 1x seems to work. Crashes when no card is plugged in. Not sure if that can be fixed (bus error). But for people that want to test 2x and higher cards.

08 March 2024, 02:49	#178
PainDictator Registered User Join Date: May 2023 Location: Dortmund Posts: 3	Thanks. This made my SBLive work. However, I have another issue: when my 68060 is set to 100MHz, the 8139 Adapter stops responding shortly after use. At 50MHz it works Fine. Since the Setup is proven and has no issues, I think this is Not related to a Problem with the overclocked CPU. Any ideas?

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