Wanted: Indivision external scandoubler/flicker fixer

09 February 2009, 23:13

I'm trying but failing to find an external scandoubler anywhere. Internal is not an option for me.

If anyone has one that they want to part with, name your price.

Thanks.

alexh · 09 February 2009, 23:23

They are not great scandoublers. They are only 16-bit and suffer from Digital->Analog->Digital->Analog conversion problems. They also require a 50Hz capable display (i.e. do not work with LCD)

They are also called ToastScan BTW.

09 February 2009, 23:51

Don't work with an LCD? Never mind then.

Are there any external scan doublers that will work with an LCD by the way?

DDNI · 09 February 2009, 23:59

Hmmm dont think so Shane as most LCD screens need Scan Tripled Amiga input. Why does it have to be external?

Fingerlickin_B · 10 February 2009, 00:24

Maybe he has more than one miggy?

PZ.

DDNI · 10 February 2009, 00:30

maybe...

Parsec · 10 February 2009, 00:39

If for whatever reason you want to stay with an external scandoubler wouldn't you be better getting a CRT monitor, that seems to me to be the best picture quality you could get on an Amiga, nice bright colours and no scaling or processing artifacts like you can get on LCD.

alexh · 10 February 2009, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanegl

Don't work with an LCD? Never mind then.

Not in PAL modes anyhow. In NTSC modes (60Hz) most LCD's will work. To get your Amiga to output 60Hz in all applications and games is the tricky bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanegl

Are there any external scan doublers that will work with an LCD by the way?

Yes but at the sacrifice smooth scrolling. The cheapest is about $95 for a CM397. Not a great scandoubler but works.

icbrkr · 10 February 2009, 00:51

I might be lucky, but I've had both my A4000T (NTSC) and PAL A600 hooked up to a few different LCD's with no issue at all.

pbareges · 10 February 2009, 12:46

The only valuable external scandoubler ; xrgb2 box..you can find some on ebays but they are quite expensive..

alexh · 10 February 2009, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbareges

The only valuable external scandoubler ; xrgb2 box..you can find some on ebays but they are quite expensive..

CM397 and CM391 are reportadly equally good. I have neither so I cannot comment. All 3 are not 24-bit but I dunno if that matters to you?

10 February 2009, 15:35

I'm not worried about 24-bit colour. Just got the 1200, so I don't want to start opening it and fiddling around with it. Also, I have read that since I have an internal hard drive it wouldn't be possible to install.

Has anyone heard of this guy's scandoubler?

http://www.miba51.com/CoCo_VGA_Adpater.html

Apparently it works on LCDs. I'll have a look at the other suggestions as well.

Parsec · 10 February 2009, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanegl

Has anyone heard of this guy's scandoubler?

http://www.miba51.com/CoCo_VGA_Adpater.html

Interesting at that price I have to say.

10 February 2009, 15:48

Although I was just thinking that since he's U.S. based it wouldn't be a surprise that it works with LCDs since it would be outputing 60Hz on NTSC Amigas.

kriz · 10 February 2009, 16:45

I have now tried both external (used for years) and now the internal indivision...

The internal is much better, very clear picture and also just much simpler and easier on the desk !

Should work with internal hardrive also ? I only have cf now, but a 2,5 drive should not be any problem...

Also very easy to install hardware wise.. Like 10seconds after its opened!

10 February 2009, 17:12

I only have a CF as well. I had read that it was impossible with internal hard drive, but just assumed this meant any hard drive.

I'll leave it as a last resort, don't like the idea of cutting holes in the trapdoor etc. Is there a good guide with step by step instructions on how to install it anywhere?

09 February 2009, 23:13	#1
shanegl Posts: n/a	Wanted: Indivision external scandoubler/flicker fixer I'm trying but failing to find an external scandoubler anywhere. Internal is not an option for me. If anyone has one that they want to part with, name your price. Thanks.

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09 February 2009, 23:23	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	They are not great scandoublers. They are only 16-bit and suffer from Digital->Analog->Digital->Analog conversion problems. They also require a 50Hz capable display (i.e. do not work with LCD) They are also called ToastScan BTW.

09 February 2009, 23:51	#3
shanegl Posts: n/a	Don't work with an LCD? Never mind then. Are there any external scan doublers that will work with an LCD by the way?

09 February 2009, 23:59	#4
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Hmmm dont think so Shane as most LCD screens need Scan Tripled Amiga input. Why does it have to be external?

10 February 2009, 00:24	#5
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Maybe he has more than one miggy? PZ.

10 February 2009, 00:30	#6
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	maybe...

10 February 2009, 00:39	#7
Parsec Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lancashire Age: 49 Posts: 434	If for whatever reason you want to stay with an external scandoubler wouldn't you be better getting a CRT monitor, that seems to me to be the best picture quality you could get on an Amiga, nice bright colours and no scaling or processing artifacts like you can get on LCD.

10 February 2009, 00:51	#9
icbrkr Particles! BBS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Particles! BBS Posts: 47	I might be lucky, but I've had both my A4000T (NTSC) and PAL A600 hooked up to a few different LCD's with no issue at all.

10 February 2009, 12:46	#10
pbareges Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: montreal / canada Age: 47 Posts: 722	The only valuable external scandoubler ; xrgb2 box..you can find some on ebays but they are quite expensive..

10 February 2009, 15:35	#12
shanegl Posts: n/a	I'm not worried about 24-bit colour. Just got the 1200, so I don't want to start opening it and fiddling around with it. Also, I have read that since I have an internal hard drive it wouldn't be possible to install. Has anyone heard of this guy's scandoubler? http://www.miba51.com/CoCo_VGA_Adpater.html Apparently it works on LCDs. I'll have a look at the other suggestions as well.

10 February 2009, 15:48	#14
shanegl Posts: n/a	Although I was just thinking that since he's U.S. based it wouldn't be a surprise that it works with LCDs since it would be outputing 60Hz on NTSC Amigas.

10 February 2009, 16:45	#15
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,187	I have now tried both external (used for years) and now the internal indivision... The internal is much better, very clear picture and also just much simpler and easier on the desk ! Should work with internal hardrive also ? I only have cf now, but a 2,5 drive should not be any problem... Also very easy to install hardware wise.. Like 10seconds after its opened!

10 February 2009, 17:12	#16
shanegl Posts: n/a	I only have a CF as well. I had read that it was impossible with internal hard drive, but just assumed this meant any hard drive. I'll leave it as a last resort, don't like the idea of cutting holes in the trapdoor etc. Is there a good guide with step by step instructions on how to install it anywhere?

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