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Old 16 March 2018, 14:17   #1
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Hyperion no longer allowed to do business...

Seeing as this happened back in October, I'm surprised to see it for the first time today as someone shared the link recently on FB.

http://amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2018-03-00028-EN.html

My apologies if it was shared here before - I did a basic search of topic titles and may have missed it.
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Old 16 March 2018, 15:07   #2
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Wow, I wonder what this means for the OS 3.1.4 project. But the way I understand it Hyperion can make their way back from the dead. Again.
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Old 16 March 2018, 15:24   #3
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Wow, I wonder what this means for the OS 3.1.4 project. But the way I understand it Hyperion can make their way back from the dead. Again.
More info including post from Hyperion's Timothy De Groote

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Old 16 March 2018, 15:32   #4
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Yet another company falling to the Amiga curse! It seems to me that almost every company that tries to help Amiga goes bust!
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Old 16 March 2018, 16:00   #5
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I would not be alarmed:

-Situation is easily fixable by doing some paperwork.
-Hyperion has publicly declared that they are into it.
-The consequences only apply to Belgium and are temporal untill paperwork is submitted.
-AmigaOS 3.1.4 is still being developed and betatested.

The rest, as always, can be speculated.
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Old 16 March 2018, 16:35   #6
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post #6 in this thread shows to me this from user sundown:
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The wheels are already turning to rectify this problem.

The real problem is no new OS4 s/w releases.
so where is the info from hyperions timothy de groote?
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Old 16 March 2018, 16:39   #7
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post #6 in this thread shows to me this from user sundown:

so where is the info from hyperions timothy de groote?
Source Timothy De Groote

He uses his own AW account since, afaik, he has never had access to the Hyperion corporate account.

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Old 16 March 2018, 16:44   #8
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so where is the info from hyperions timothy de groote?
I believe SimplePPC is Timothy. But his statement is far from what I would consider "information"; things don't look too promising when all they have to say is some vague "we're doing stuff" post.

I was seriously considering getting a Tabor when it finally came out, but now I'm not so sure.
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Old 16 March 2018, 18:24   #9
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I’m a huge AmigaOS4 fan and X1000 user. Sadly Hyperion are an embarrassment. They have been stagnant for years with zero OS development. A few talented developers are aligned to them, but I see no sign of them progressing any projects.

Amigakit and A-Eon technology, in stark contrast to Hyperion continue to enhance AmigaOS4 with applications, utilities and massive 3D graphic system developments.

Hyperion need to get off the pot and allow another entity to take control.
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Old 16 March 2018, 19:38   #10
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is there nobody out there, who could make them a reasonable offer?
What would it take to gather all these floating Amiga related rights?
Could we do it together?
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issue is, I don't think there is anything "reasonable" with Hyperion...
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Old 17 March 2018, 02:50   #12
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So does what does this mean for OS4.1FE ? I am assuming that the direct download from Hyperion is risky at best. Is it basically toast once any existing copies with retailers have been sold?
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As far as I'm aware, this is only affecting them in Belgium until they sort out the paperwork, anywhere else should be business as usual.
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Old 17 March 2018, 09:43   #14
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[...] Hyperion need to get off the pot and allow another entity to take control.
Who?
Cloanto? with their claim... ( http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/ )

If you have any name, let us know...

Edit: Better hope that an EAB membre wins at Euro million and buy the rights. But then again, without a projet...
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I think if anyone was to get involved somehow it would include A-Eon. They have been in Hyperion's background for quite a while, including the bankruptcy!
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Old 17 March 2018, 10:42   #16
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As far as I'm aware, this is only affecting them in Belgium until they sort out the paperwork, anywhere else should be business as usual.
You mean a company having its residence in Belgium and being inexistant according to Belgian laws isn't going to be a problem if I buy from them from another country?
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You mean a company having its residence in Belgium and being inexistant according to Belgian laws isn't going to be a problem if I buy from them from another country?
I gave a quick try to the "Buy now, Direct download" (as far as possible without finalising the order).
It works as today .
So maybe they effectively did something or... (noooo, impossible. Serious Companies do respect the law ).
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You mean a company having its residence in Belgium and being inexistant according to Belgian laws isn't going to be a problem if I buy from them from another country?
Different country, different laws. You might think the EU is unified but it's far from it!
Anyway, I said "as far as I'm aware", that doesn't equate to set in stone, I'm not a lawyer.

There's a 2 page thread about it over on amigaworld.net with plenty of links to follow, go do your own research.
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Different country, different laws. You might think the EU is unified but it's far from it!
Well, if something was wrong with my order, e.g. I didn't receive what I paid for, where and how would I take them to court? I don't think it would be easy or even possible.
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issue is, I don't think there is anything "reasonable" with Hyperion...
there aint anyone out there who could take over. even if a "reasonable" deal was possible, which would mean further rewarding whoever is responsible for last decades politics with money for lack of perspective. luckily the community is not supposed to gather any funds towards it, there will be only talking.

lets face it, the past and current policy around os4 and the fellowship of subdued apologists around it have effectively vandalized the ecosystem they lived on beyond repair.
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