Amiga 1500 woes

rave · 15 March 2008, 15:25

Hi EAB people,

I recently inherited 2 A1500's.

The down side is one doesn't boot, it just gives a yellow screen and the power light flashes continually.
The second one boots and appears to have 3.1 ROMS, but the mouse doesnt seem to work in either port, also the floppy drive does not detect the disk after boot, only if you turn the machine on with a floppy in there.
Im guessing this is a trackdisk or drive issue>?

Any help greatly appreciated, as I would like to get at least one machine up and running, and maybe get a budha flash from amiga kit.

Rave

DDNI · 15 March 2008, 15:30

Hi Rave

IIRC Yellow boot screen is a CPU error. Assuming there is no accelerator board installed I would look into reseating the 68000.

Fingerlickin_B · 15 March 2008, 15:31

Not an A1500, but I had a similar drive issue before and it was simply in need of a good cleaning...so maybe try that before going any further?

Yellow screen seems to mean more than I thought, as others have shown, but if you have any socketed memory, checking that might be a good place to start.

PZ.

*edit* - See what I mean (beat to it), yellow can mean all sorts of things...

rave · 15 March 2008, 16:12

Nice one guys,

I'll have a go at reseating some chips, and breaking out the drive cleaner.
I'll post back with some results...

Update:

Thanks guys, thats seems to have worked on the first one:

Its got 1.3 ROM, and both floppies now seem to work, got it to boot a WB 1.3 disk.
Also the stupidly expensive keyboard I bought on eGay works but has a few sticky keys, so I guess an air duster and some contact cleaner for that!

Gonna try and fix the 2nd one later.

Appreciate your help

/Rave.....

rave · 15 March 2008, 21:01

Ok,

Fixed the second one, it has 3.1 ROM, and the floppy from the other 1500 works in it, so i have a bad floppy..
However there is no response from the mouse on either port, i have cleaned the ports thoroughly, so i assume it must be an IC blown or something?
Any ideas guys???

Thanks

Paul_s · 15 March 2008, 23:21

Hey rave, with regards to the one which was yellow screening which you've now got working... I'd check to make sure the onboard battery hasn't leaked as it lives fairly close to the CPU.

rave · 15 March 2008, 23:27

Hey Paul_s,
Yeah it was a bit leaky! I have removed it and used some pcb cleaner on the area and it looks ok now, just waiting for a new one from amigakit

Im still baffled on the ports on the other one though????

TheCorfiot · 16 March 2008, 00:00

Havng Used a Known Working Mouse.

It maybe that The 8250 CIA chip has failed or is not seated properly.
You can try swapping the 2 around in the same machine but I think 1 handles floppy control and the other the Mouse / Joystick ports..
Swap them and if the Floppy fails to work you know for sure. identifying the faulty one may mean using a Good 8250 from your working A1500.
Or just transfer the 8250's from the working machine 1 at a time to see if it cures your problem, if not it eliminates them from being the problem.

Take it easy on moving the chips and take anti static precautions...
If you do locate the faulty one.. you can replace it cheaply via e-bay or a faulty A500.
Again look for Battery leakage..

Good Luck

If you are interested in selling on one of them pls PM me.

rave · 16 March 2008, 12:34

Hi TheCorfiot,
Thanks for the info.
I looked over the board but I can only seem to see 2 x 8520, are these the correct chips?
all the socketed chips are:

MC68000P

5721 5188 40

318029-02 8520PD

318029-02 8520PD

5179 1090 44

3.1 ROM

8364R7 1090 27

8362R8 1090 28

8372A 318069-02 0890 23

Many thanks

alexh · 16 March 2008, 12:49

Is there nothing exciting inside either of them? No Zorro / CPU cards?

A1500 came with KS2.04 so perhaps the KS1.3 one has a switcher?

rave · 16 March 2008, 13:33

Ok,

Swapped the two 8520 chips over, still the same, however I remembered that the later kicks included the util at startup when you held both mouse buttons down it brought up the NTSC/PAL etc screen, so I did this and it worked.
So, the mouse buttons appear to work but not the movement tracking.
I think this could be a paula/denise issue?

@ alexh, unfortunately nothing exciting inside, it looks like they once had cards in as some of the backplates are missing, and some of the slots are cleaner than others!!! looks like someone else had the best bits!!!
Also there is no switcher, it just has a 1.3 ROM.

TheCorfiot · 16 March 2008, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by rave

Hi TheCorfiot,
Thanks for the info.
I looked over the board but I can only seem to see 2 x 8520, are these the correct chips?
all the socketed chips are:

MC68000P

5721 5188 40

318029-02 8520PD

318029-02 8520PD

5179 1090 44

3.1 ROM

8364R7 1090 27

8362R8 1090 28

8372A 318069-02 0890 23

Many thanks

Sorry meant 8520... A little late in the evening....

Forgot about the KS Boot screen, good thinking. I think this proves you do not have a hardware issue....

Does the mouse work with a Game????

Sorry just re-read --- No Movement....???? Try swapping Gary & Denise over from the good machine.
It maybe worth trying a joystick in socket 2 with a Game???

rave · 16 March 2008, 17:14

Ok,

Thanks for all your help people, its been invaluable.
I have one working and thats good enough for me.

Merlin · 16 March 2008, 19:50

@ rave

If you are thinking of parting with the other faulty 1500, please let me know, I would like first shout.

Thanks

Merlin

15 March 2008, 15:25	#1
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 45 Posts: 178	Amiga 1500 woes Hi EAB people, I recently inherited 2 A1500's. The down side is one doesn't boot, it just gives a yellow screen and the power light flashes continually. The second one boots and appears to have 3.1 ROMS, but the mouse doesnt seem to work in either port, also the floppy drive does not detect the disk after boot, only if you turn the machine on with a floppy in there. Im guessing this is a trackdisk or drive issue>? Any help greatly appreciated, as I would like to get at least one machine up and running, and maybe get a budha flash from amiga kit. Rave

15 March 2008, 16:12	#4
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 45 Posts: 178	Nice one guys, I'll have a go at reseating some chips, and breaking out the drive cleaner. I'll post back with some results... Update: Thanks guys, thats seems to have worked on the first one: Its got 1.3 ROM, and both floppies now seem to work, got it to boot a WB 1.3 disk. Also the stupidly expensive keyboard I bought on eGay works but has a few sticky keys, so I guess an air duster and some contact cleaner for that! Gonna try and fix the 2nd one later. Appreciate your help /Rave..... Last edited by rave; 15 March 2008 at 17:48.

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15 March 2008, 15:30	#2
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	Hi Rave IIRC Yellow boot screen is a CPU error. Assuming there is no accelerator board installed I would look into reseating the 68000.

15 March 2008, 15:31	#3
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Not an A1500, but I had a similar drive issue before and it was simply in need of a good cleaning...so maybe try that before going any further? Yellow screen seems to mean more than I thought, as others have shown, but if you have any socketed memory, checking that might be a good place to start. PZ. edit - See what I mean (beat to it), yellow can mean all sorts of things...

15 March 2008, 21:01	#5
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 45 Posts: 178	Ok, Fixed the second one, it has 3.1 ROM, and the floppy from the other 1500 works in it, so i have a bad floppy.. However there is no response from the mouse on either port, i have cleaned the ports thoroughly, so i assume it must be an IC blown or something? Any ideas guys??? Thanks

15 March 2008, 23:21	#6
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,338	Hey rave, with regards to the one which was yellow screening which you've now got working... I'd check to make sure the onboard battery hasn't leaked as it lives fairly close to the CPU.

15 March 2008, 23:27	#7
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 45 Posts: 178	Hey Paul_s, Yeah it was a bit leaky! I have removed it and used some pcb cleaner on the area and it looks ok now, just waiting for a new one from amigakit Im still baffled on the ports on the other one though????

16 March 2008, 00:00	#8
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	Havng Used a Known Working Mouse. It maybe that The 8250 CIA chip has failed or is not seated properly. You can try swapping the 2 around in the same machine but I think 1 handles floppy control and the other the Mouse / Joystick ports.. Swap them and if the Floppy fails to work you know for sure. identifying the faulty one may mean using a Good 8250 from your working A1500. Or just transfer the 8250's from the working machine 1 at a time to see if it cures your problem, if not it eliminates them from being the problem. Take it easy on moving the chips and take anti static precautions... If you do locate the faulty one.. you can replace it cheaply via e-bay or a faulty A500. Again look for Battery leakage.. Good Luck If you are interested in selling on one of them pls PM me.

16 March 2008, 12:34	#9
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 45 Posts: 178	Hi TheCorfiot, Thanks for the info. I looked over the board but I can only seem to see 2 x 8520, are these the correct chips? all the socketed chips are: MC68000P 5721 5188 40 318029-02 8520PD 318029-02 8520PD 5179 1090 44 3.1 ROM 8364R7 1090 27 8362R8 1090 28 8372A 318069-02 0890 23 Many thanks

16 March 2008, 12:49	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,465	Is there nothing exciting inside either of them? No Zorro / CPU cards? A1500 came with KS2.04 so perhaps the KS1.3 one has a switcher?

16 March 2008, 13:33	#11
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 45 Posts: 178	Ok, Swapped the two 8520 chips over, still the same, however I remembered that the later kicks included the util at startup when you held both mouse buttons down it brought up the NTSC/PAL etc screen, so I did this and it worked. So, the mouse buttons appear to work but not the movement tracking. I think this could be a paula/denise issue? @ alexh, unfortunately nothing exciting inside, it looks like they once had cards in as some of the backplates are missing, and some of the slots are cleaner than others!!! looks like someone else had the best bits!!! Also there is no switcher, it just has a 1.3 ROM.

16 March 2008, 17:14	#13
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 45 Posts: 178	Ok, Thanks for all your help people, its been invaluable. I have one working and thats good enough for me.

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16 March 2008, 19:50	#14
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	@ rave If you are thinking of parting with the other faulty 1500, please let me know, I would like first shout. Thanks Merlin