New Computer with Pentium4 3.0Ghz HT: Winuae SLOW!!

FreakyDan · 30 June 2003, 20:51

Hi, i just bought myself a new state of the art P4 3.0ghz computer 800mhz FSB.....And WinUAE is slow.
Sometime it works as it should and winuae is fast as hell. But
most of the time it so slow...Like the JIT not functioning as it should. Any ideas what can be wrong. Is it a bug?? Even tried to disable the hyperthreading but no luck. The strange thing is that sometime it works perfectly.

Toni Wilen · 30 June 2003, 21:30

Does adjusting "idle"-slider in cpu-tab help?
Does the slowdown also affect A500 (non-JIT) emulation?
Could you post winuaebootlog.txt when emulation is slow and when emulation is fast?

Amiga1992 · 30 June 2003, 21:32

PCs.

Tee-hee-hee-hee

cv643d · 30 June 2003, 21:42

Normal emulation without JIT or Picasso96 are very slow on my p4 2.4 system.

A 640x256 120 kb iff wallpaper takes almost 20 seconds to load in WinUAE without JIT!
On my 030/50 MHz it loads in seconds. (booth 256 color AGA workbench).

So maybe you forgot to turn JIT on.

FreakyDan · 30 June 2003, 21:45

No no, JIt is enabled. I'm not that stupid

Steve · 30 June 2003, 21:49

The latest WinUAE runs almost all games at perfect speed on my lowly Athlon 600.

The only exceptions are games like Breathless, Elfmania, Alien Breed 3D, Aladdin and a few other intensive games.

The problem is most likely your config file.

Don't run the emulator at 32bit colour depth as this slows it right down. Use 16bit colour depth instead. I've found setting OpenGL filtering also slows games down a hell of a lot on my machine.

Maybe you have a virus checker or something like that constantly checking in the background? WinUAE should run like lightning on your machine.

FreakyDan · 30 June 2003, 21:54

Hi Toni!

Here is the Logfiles when its running fast and slow.
Hope you can find out whats causing this.

Keep up the good work.
I Love U man.!!

FreakyDan · 30 June 2003, 21:57

Hi Steve,

The emulation really flies when it works as it should. But 8 out of ten times is is really slow. It isn't anything wrong with the config. I used on my old computer Athlon 1300 mhz and it never was that slow as it is now sometimes.....

Toni Wilen · 30 June 2003, 22:50

Thanks. I think this has nothing to do with HT but overflow in CPU speed detection..

Expect something to test tomorrow

Twistin'Ghost · 01 July 2003, 11:49

Have you gone through your system and disabled all the crap that was setup that way when the system was sold to you? Every PC I have ever bought has had bullshit installed that petitions for as much juice as it can hog up.

A friend of mine bought a new machine and complained to me that every time he plays mp3's, they stutter and stammer through the whole song every so many time intervals. I looked at his setup and it was some lame-ass Norton app that was the problem. The dealer had installed so much crap (as a bonus, all of these great software apps!!! please!) Most of that junk he had no need for, his virus program needed configuring to a realistic setting for checking, his tray was filled with programs like EasyCD and the like that decide they need to be running all the time. Once deleted, disabled or removed from the startup, his sluggish new box was running at a reasonable speed.

FreakyDan · 01 July 2003, 12:52

The program installed is not the problem, I have built the machine
myself. But anyway I have received a beta from Toni Wilen and he seems to been able to eliminate the bug. So the system now runs perfectlty.

Thanx Toni.

vroom6sri · 01 December 2006, 09:36

I was using my PC yesterday morning, shut it down properly then loaded it up when I got in from work in the evening. The poota took ages to load anything from the HD.
I ran Checkdisk, booted from my back-up partition and virus checked (as well as reverting BIOS to default settings but hadn't ever changed these much anyway!) and checked all cables.
Eventually it seemed to be loading up properly again and games like Halflife 2 were running OK, etc. Then I got on to the MOST important test... WinUAE.
When I loaded my default config it was slow to initialise. I have the On-Screen-LEDs set to ON and the figure in the left hand most one was 200-250. I think before it was only ever about 100. It had been running SWEET & yesterday evening I was unpacking a load of WHDload enabled demos from Silents & Spaceballs and saving them to my emulated Hard Drive. Some ran OK, but some were buggy. Afterwards I played Super Stardust & Project X and they were perfect!

Anyone know what could have caused this sudden deterioration? From what I can see I haven't changed anything (no System restores or anything like that) so am baffled as to why this is dragging it's heels now.

Not sure what version of WinUAE I am running but I'm pretty sure it is the most up to date one I downloaded off the WinUAE website a few months back.

As always, any help would be much appreciated. I LOVE WINUAE!!!!

PS - 2.6 Ghz AMD, 1gb mem, 20gb free space on the HD I boot from and 120+ on my other one, GeForce FX5200 GFX card. Not sure if that is relevant as it WAS all working fine before last night!!!

_ThEcRoW · 01 December 2006, 15:51

Winuae on my system just fly!. Check out your config files and also check out your windows os for some misconfiguration.
Long live winuae!

Ironclaw · 01 December 2006, 16:53

Yeah, winuae and all games I've tried FLY! on my Laptop 1.6ghz... even quake, doom etc....

JimC · 01 December 2006, 18:59

Yeah....
I have a Presario laptop 1.99GHz / 1Gig of RAM
I've been having this slowdown in WinUAE as well.. even just in the WB.
I'll have to test it on another machine at some point, but so far, I've
had WinUAE setup under it's own XP installation..booting directly with NO other programs loaded, not even the desktop.. still slows down. It will absolutely FLY, then all of a sudden screech to a crawl. Once, I was only copying files under ClassicWB.. ECS no AGA, just incase that may have been it.. but it speeds up again to lightning speed.. then back down again.. never at the same time. I've tried it under Linux E-UAE on the same laptop.. I get the same slowdown. Especially with AmiKit, which I know can be a hog, but just moving windows around can crawl... then BAM it's fast again!
I've checked the BIOS, but didn't notice any speed-throttling settings.
I'm messing around now on my iBook 1.33Ghz PPC 1g RAM.. so far the demos in AmiKit seem to run much smoother.... I wonder if it's the Compaq laptop, but I'll keep testing.

vroom6sri · 01 December 2006, 19:41

I don't understand how anything I did to "fix" my HD problem yesterday would have kanckered WinUAE for me. It WAS working fine until I had to reset BIOS (but had not really changed anything on there anyway!) and run checkdisk. Surely it should only be affected if I changed hardware or the config files in WinUAE!?!??!

PeterK · 01 December 2006, 21:55

WinUAE 0.8.22, Release 7 (OS: NT 5.1 Administrator privileges)

Why are you running such an old release of WinUAE ??

Try out the latest WinUAE 1.340 beta1, it works without any problems
on my system, which is a P4 630/3GHz too. And here, it's always fast.

adix · 01 December 2006, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

WinUAE 0.8.22, Release 7 (OS: NT 5.1 Administrator privileges)

Why are you running such an old release of WinUAE ??

Try out the latest WinUAE 1.340 beta1, it works without any problems
on my system, which is a P4 630/3GHz too. And here, it's always fast.

Look at the date of the post (30 June 2003, 21:54)

DamienD · 01 December 2006, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by adix

Look at the date of the post (30 June 2003, 21:54)

Definitely

I was trying to work out where PeterK got WinUAE 0.8.22, Release 7 from??? It wasn't mentioned at all in any posts (although going off the date of the 1st post, this was about time when this release surfaced)...

PS. Welcome to EAB adix

Galaxy · 01 December 2006, 23:05

You want to consider vroom6sri's post the start of the thread for current discussion

30 June 2003, 20:51	#1
FreakyDan Freaky Dan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 97	New Computer with Pentium4 3.0Ghz HT: Winuae SLOW!! Hi, i just bought myself a new state of the art P4 3.0ghz computer 800mhz FSB.....And WinUAE is slow. Sometime it works as it should and winuae is fast as hell. But most of the time it so slow...Like the JIT not functioning as it should. Any ideas what can be wrong. Is it a bug?? Even tried to disable the hyperthreading but no luck. The strange thing is that sometime it works perfectly.

30 June 2003, 21:49	#6
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	The latest WinUAE runs almost all games at perfect speed on my lowly Athlon 600. The only exceptions are games like Breathless, Elfmania, Alien Breed 3D, Aladdin and a few other intensive games. The problem is most likely your config file. Don't run the emulator at 32bit colour depth as this slows it right down. Use 16bit colour depth instead. I've found setting OpenGL filtering also slows games down a hell of a lot on my machine. Maybe you have a virus checker or something like that constantly checking in the background? WinUAE should run like lightning on your machine. Last edited by Steve; 30 June 2003 at 22:53.

01 December 2006, 09:36	#12
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 855	WinUAE gone slow after HD problem... I was using my PC yesterday morning, shut it down properly then loaded it up when I got in from work in the evening. The poota took ages to load anything from the HD. I ran Checkdisk, booted from my back-up partition and virus checked (as well as reverting BIOS to default settings but hadn't ever changed these much anyway!) and checked all cables. Eventually it seemed to be loading up properly again and games like Halflife 2 were running OK, etc. Then I got on to the MOST important test... WinUAE. When I loaded my default config it was slow to initialise. I have the On-Screen-LEDs set to ON and the figure in the left hand most one was 200-250. I think before it was only ever about 100. It had been running SWEET & yesterday evening I was unpacking a load of WHDload enabled demos from Silents & Spaceballs and saving them to my emulated Hard Drive. Some ran OK, but some were buggy. Afterwards I played Super Stardust & Project X and they were perfect! Anyone know what could have caused this sudden deterioration? From what I can see I haven't changed anything (no System restores or anything like that) so am baffled as to why this is dragging it's heels now. Not sure what version of WinUAE I am running but I'm pretty sure it is the most up to date one I downloaded off the WinUAE website a few months back. As always, any help would be much appreciated. I LOVE WINUAE!!!! PS - 2.6 Ghz AMD, 1gb mem, 20gb free space on the HD I boot from and 120+ on my other one, GeForce FX5200 GFX card. Not sure if that is relevant as it WAS all working fine before last night!!!

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30 June 2003, 21:30	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,570	Does adjusting "idle"-slider in cpu-tab help? Does the slowdown also affect A500 (non-JIT) emulation? Could you post winuaebootlog.txt when emulation is slow and when emulation is fast?

30 June 2003, 21:32	#3
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,654	PCs. Tee-hee-hee-hee

30 June 2003, 21:42	#4
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Normal emulation without JIT or Picasso96 are very slow on my p4 2.4 system. A 640x256 120 kb iff wallpaper takes almost 20 seconds to load in WinUAE without JIT! On my 030/50 MHz it loads in seconds. (booth 256 color AGA workbench). So maybe you forgot to turn JIT on.

30 June 2003, 21:45	#5
FreakyDan Freaky Dan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 97	No no, JIt is enabled. I'm not that stupid

30 June 2003, 21:57	#8
FreakyDan Freaky Dan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 97	Hi Steve, The emulation really flies when it works as it should. But 8 out of ten times is is really slow. It isn't anything wrong with the config. I used on my old computer Athlon 1300 mhz and it never was that slow as it is now sometimes.....

30 June 2003, 22:50	#9
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,570	Thanks. I think this has nothing to do with HT but overflow in CPU speed detection.. Expect something to test tomorrow

01 July 2003, 11:49	#10
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Have you gone through your system and disabled all the crap that was setup that way when the system was sold to you? Every PC I have ever bought has had bullshit installed that petitions for as much juice as it can hog up. A friend of mine bought a new machine and complained to me that every time he plays mp3's, they stutter and stammer through the whole song every so many time intervals. I looked at his setup and it was some lame-ass Norton app that was the problem. The dealer had installed so much crap (as a bonus, all of these great software apps!!! please!) Most of that junk he had no need for, his virus program needed configuring to a realistic setting for checking, his tray was filled with programs like EasyCD and the like that decide they need to be running all the time. Once deleted, disabled or removed from the startup, his sluggish new box was running at a reasonable speed.

01 July 2003, 12:52	#11
FreakyDan Freaky Dan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 97	The program installed is not the problem, I have built the machine myself. But anyway I have received a beta from Toni Wilen and he seems to been able to eliminate the bug. So the system now runs perfectlty. Thanx Toni.

01 December 2006, 15:51	#13
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Winuae on my system just fly!. Check out your config files and also check out your windows os for some misconfiguration. Long live winuae!

01 December 2006, 16:53	#14
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 46 Posts: 3,313	Yeah, winuae and all games I've tried FLY! on my Laptop 1.6ghz... even quake, doom etc....

01 December 2006, 18:59	#15
JimC Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Age: 50 Posts: 14	Yeah.... I have a Presario laptop 1.99GHz / 1Gig of RAM I've been having this slowdown in WinUAE as well.. even just in the WB. I'll have to test it on another machine at some point, but so far, I've had WinUAE setup under it's own XP installation..booting directly with NO other programs loaded, not even the desktop.. still slows down. It will absolutely FLY, then all of a sudden screech to a crawl. Once, I was only copying files under ClassicWB.. ECS no AGA, just incase that may have been it.. but it speeds up again to lightning speed.. then back down again.. never at the same time. I've tried it under Linux E-UAE on the same laptop.. I get the same slowdown. Especially with AmiKit, which I know can be a hog, but just moving windows around can crawl... then BAM it's fast again! I've checked the BIOS, but didn't notice any speed-throttling settings. I'm messing around now on my iBook 1.33Ghz PPC 1g RAM.. so far the demos in AmiKit seem to run much smoother.... I wonder if it's the Compaq laptop, but I'll keep testing.

01 December 2006, 19:41	#16
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 855	I don't understand how anything I did to "fix" my HD problem yesterday would have kanckered WinUAE for me. It WAS working fine until I had to reset BIOS (but had not really changed anything on there anyway!) and run checkdisk. Surely it should only be affected if I changed hardware or the config files in WinUAE!?!??!

01 December 2006, 21:55	#17
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,385	WinUAE 0.8.22, Release 7 (OS: NT 5.1 Administrator privileges) Why are you running such an old release of WinUAE ?? Try out the latest WinUAE 1.340 beta1, it works without any problems on my system, which is a P4 630/3GHz too. And here, it's always fast.

01 December 2006, 23:05	#20
Galaxy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 1,417	You want to consider vroom6sri's post the start of the thread for current discussion

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