How to set up Octamed and MIDI

[Grumpygamer]

Hello all!
I have just set up my Amiga with Octamed and have a MIDI Master that connects to a sampler.

Trouble is when I attach the keyboard to the sampler it plays no probs, but the amiga won't do absolutely anything.
I've installed camd.library in libs: but other than that I have no idea what else I should be doing.

Would anyone be so kind to help me out please?

[AMIGASYSTEM]

What version of camd.library do you have installed?

[golem]

Should not need camd with stock Amiga serial port and MIDImaster interface. Have you turned MIDI on in OctaMEd and set the instrument to the same or one of the MIDI channels your sampler is receiving? That is if you trying to trigger sampler from Amiga

[Grumpygamer]

Hello all!
So I have WB 3.2.1 from hyperion + Octamed 1.03c and camd.library (I assume) version 2.0 downloaded here:
https://aminet.net/package/mus/midi/camd

And yes I have activated MIDI on Octamed and set the instrument to the corresponding channels.

Also I am using a roland UMOne as a way of connecting it to play samples on the computer.

[golem]

Hmm your MIDI interface is USB. OctaMED is an old program and only supports in-built Amiga serial port. I don't think CAMD was ever supported although it was on the cards for the versions after Teijo. You need a MIDI interface that was designed for the Amiga like Datel MIDImaster or ProMIDI interface. How are you connecting it? Do you have a USB card for your Amiga?

[Grumpygamer]

Hi Golem, yes I do indeed have a midi master, the connections are as follows:

Amiga Serial port -> MidiMaster -> Roland UMOne (cable) ->Computer sampler

[golem]

What is the computer sampler make and model? Is it a PC or Mac? Or is it a dedicated sampler instrument like an Akai etc

[Grumpygamer]

It's a PC (Windows), but - personally - I don't think that makes a difference.
UMOne takes care of translating the midi signals, works with my keyboard (which has out only)

[golem]

Interesting. There is no reason it should not work. There is an extra toggle for Input Active and Input Channel in MIDI in OctaMED. Also you need to Edit enable the block by pressing ESC. Verify you can get MIDI data coming in in the block

[Grumpygamer]

It seems like no midi is coming out at all in my opinion which then led me to believe I had to install the CAMD.library.
There is another version of said library in github as well:
https://github.com/kmatheussen/camd

Input active I imagine is for the keyboard (or a device) to send midi in the amiga.
Midi is active in the menu: is there anything else I need to enable?

[golem]

CAMD.library is a red herring. It is not used here. In the same menu as Input Active there is Input Channel this should be set to either 0 for all channel receive or to the same channel as what your controller keyboard is sending on. Also press ESC to turn on Edit mode in the editor so input goes to the block. You can see the flag is enabled from the Display/Main Control window. It is a hardware Amiga you are using (I think WinUAE might use CAMD)?

[Grumpygamer]

That is correct, it's hardware Amiga I am using, done the Edit thing, no change.
I had previoulsy used WINUAE as a test with a midi looper and it worked perfectly.
But there's nothing like using the real thing in my opinion!

Still I'm hindered by the hardware components now!
Should I remove the CAMD.library from libs at this point?
I tried before without and still ... no result.

[golem]

Too true. Can’t beat real hardware.
The library being there won’t affect it. It does not look for it. Might be best to verify you can send from MIDI out from Amiga to PC ? See if you can trigger some samples to rule out any problems with hardware.

[Grumpygamer]

how would I go about that?

[Jope]

Which version of OctaMED are you using?

[Grumpygamer]

Originally Posted by Jope

Which version of OctaMED are you using?

1.03c from Aminet

[Jope]

Ok, that version will not do anything with camd.library, it's serial.device only.

Now did you do it like this: (I notice you mentioned these before)
- right click menu MIDI -> MIDI active (checkmark)
- click on Props in the Main Control window to get properties for the current instrument
-> Vol - drag to max
-> MIDI CH - select the output channel you want
- choose a sane octave with F1-F5 (or the Oct cycle gadget in the Main Control window).. OCT 4/5 is around the middle of the piano keyboard

Now you should be able to play to midi out with the keyboard in a similar way to you would when you play samples from memory, and if you edit notes into the pattern, this instrument will be a MIDI instrument.

Did you want MIDI in instead? It's enough to select MIDI active and Input active from the right click MIDI menu. Now you can enter edit mode and enter notes via your MIDI keyboard. If you have a sample loaded, you can play that sample from the MIDI keyboard.

Just tried both directions with my real Amiga (A4000 + OS3.2 + generic serial port MIDI interface) + a synth module + a MIDI keyboard.

[Grumpygamer]

It took me a long time, I had to re-install WB 3.2 from scratch, apologies.
So system is clean, only octamed + LHA on it.
Hardware-wise I have the Roland UM-One (cable) and the Datel.
Set up according to your instructions, absolutely nothing.
Even the midi lights aren't flickering on the umone.

[adrdesign]

Originally Posted by Grumpygamer

It took me a long time, I had to re-install WB 3.2 from scratch, apologies.
So system is clean, only octamed + LHA on it.
Hardware-wise I have the Roland UM-One (cable) and the Datel.
Set up according to your instructions, absolutely nothing.
Even the midi lights aren't flickering on the umone.

You're converting a sample mod to MIDI. In that case, you MUST FLUSH the sample 1st (clearing the instrument slot). It will work. Explanation: you cant use synth/sampled instrument and MIDI for the same instrument slot.

[Grumpygamer]

I have some news:
by plugging the keyboard in the Midi IN on the DATEL I can play the sampler (connected on the MIDI Out)
That means there is something wrong on the amiga side...
There must be some setting that we're all missing