Looking for NEWER games like Virus or Zeewolf

Valken · 19 January 2021, 04:54

I was not sure where to post this and duckduckfoo did not help.

I've been replaying Virus and Zeewolf (thanks DamienD) and wanted to play an UPDATED version on Amiga (WinUAE, AROS), Windows or another emulated system, ideally with two players split screen, or two instances of WinUAE in link.

Are there any games like this that fellow gamers know of?

Low res poly, or even pure bitmaps, relatively open world but mission oriented action game.

Even a COOP version of Desert, Urban and Jungle Strike series would be welcomed.

Prefer to play local on the same machine but can fake netplay over VM if need be.

Working from Home and learning how to network VM's so might as well enjoy the tasks while certifying the "process".

CodyJarrett · 19 January 2021, 10:20

There was a Windows/PlayStation version of Virus called V2000 that was released in 1998.

Hostile Waters on Windows is a really good version of Carrier Command so it's a bit like Desert Strike.

khph_re · 19 January 2021, 10:44

Armour-Geddon 1 & 2 have serial link, and nice 3D, you control multiple vehicles like carrier command or Zeewolf 2.

Fire Power is pretty good two player split screen.

Trick or treat, split screen wolf engine with two wizards battling it out. Spent hours on this one!

Valken · 19 January 2021, 12:32

Appreciate the advice!

I will try to find Trick or Treat as it seems to be an oldie!!!

lilwshu · 19 January 2021, 12:48

SWIV 3D was very similar IIRC.

khph_re · 19 January 2021, 13:16

Loved SWIV 3d on the PC. Still got a boxed copy somewhere, great soundtrack!

Angus · 02 February 2021, 15:02

I can't think of anything that mayches your requirements. Zeewolf 2 was 1995 so at the end of the Amiga's mainstream commercial game life.

A couple of thoughts - Guardian by Acid or Coala from Empire? Not the Virus/Zeewolf perspective, more in or behind the ship/helicopter but worth a look if you haven't seen them.

If you love the Virus style engine, and WW2 tanks appeal then Conqueror is pretty good when you get used to the controls.

I'm interested in the ArmourGeddon suggestion. I only ever got frustrated with it, when I tried to play singleplayer, but that could have just been me being too ponderous to keep up with the AI. Does it stand up as decent game?

Valken · 03 February 2021, 08:21

I will look at Guardian. Seems somewhat close to what I am looking for.

Actually, I play ARMA 3 on the PC and that game is really close (set it to the lowest graphics and geometry mode) but it is too hardcore to pickup for 20-30 minutes. Average playtime is 2-3 hours per mission so wanted something more arcade like with fast physics.

I am looking at the sequel on the PSX actually. Old games really shine due to original gameplay mechanics.

CodyJarrett · 03 February 2021, 09:53

I'm getting away from Virus-style games but the 1998 Battlezone is brilliant. It's a first-person RTS.

khph_re · 03 February 2021, 10:04

Simulcra is good one too.

Angus · 03 February 2021, 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valken

I will look at Guardian. Seems somewhat close to what I am looking for.

Actually, I play ARMA 3 on the PC and that game is really close (set it to the lowest graphics and geometry mode) but it is too hardcore to pickup for 20-30 .

I don't know if you have tried it, but I used to make simple little missions with the mission builder in ARMA 3. Basically put several bad guys in a little village - and clear it. It was good fun and could be as short as you like.

Valken · 04 February 2021, 16:07

@ Angus = Thank you for the info and I know about ARMA mission editor. I just wanted some simple shoot em up missions in the Heli or simular craft, UFO are awesome.

I cannot play ARMA 3 now because of STEAM who THINKS my ARMA 3 is NOT installed as it crashed out while online (over heating on my part). Now I have 50 GB of game data that STEAM cannot see, because I also need ANOTHER 50 GB FREE (I do not have this free at the moment as WFH used up HD space) to trick it to "reinstall" then to "find" the existing game files. Sigh...

Steam ONLY does this with ARMA 3.... my other games all work...

I went back to basic on the Amiga and old games that don't rely on Windows registry or some other third party DRM to validate my ownership. They have my money already, don't hassle me any further.

Angus · 04 February 2021, 21:42

Wow, not good.

Have you tried asking on the community forum?

https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/forum/218-arma-3/

alexh · 05 February 2021, 01:33

Not quite virus or ZeeWolf, more like Gunship is a game that David Walters is developing, it hasn't got a name yet but it looks very retro.

https://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...JQ7ScIrxjMYoqf

Valken · 05 February 2021, 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus

Wow, not good.

Have you tried asking on the community forum?

https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/forum/218-arma-3/

I've asked everyone including Bohemia, Steam Support and Steam Community and no solution but the above. I can physically delete it off the HD and re-d/l another 50 GB, again, but that is just a waste of bandwidth and contributes to less work.

It is a good thing in a way that I am focusing my free time on the Amiga and other games.

Thank you for the suggestions.

chromax · 21 March 2021, 12:39

A nice remake of Zeewolf
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1...el_Alcimus_II/

A cool version of Zarch is on the way
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1149500/Arc_Vector/

An AAA variant of lander in some ways...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/6...lot_Simulator/

A lovely classic, well playable with a xbox gamepad of flightstick
https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/lander

rare_j · 21 March 2021, 16:14

This is pushing it a bit, but have a look at "Future Cop: LAPD" on the Playstation.
It has a similar gameplay feel.

Valken · 21 March 2021, 16:23

Thank you both for the recommendations.

19 January 2021, 04:54	#1
Valken Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Amiga Posts: 465	Looking for NEWER games like Virus or Zeewolf I was not sure where to post this and duckduckfoo did not help. I've been replaying Virus and Zeewolf (thanks DamienD) and wanted to play an UPDATED version on Amiga (WinUAE, AROS), Windows or another emulated system, ideally with two players split screen, or two instances of WinUAE in link. Are there any games like this that fellow gamers know of? Low res poly, or even pure bitmaps, relatively open world but mission oriented action game. Even a COOP version of Desert, Urban and Jungle Strike series would be welcomed. Prefer to play local on the same machine but can fake netplay over VM if need be. Working from Home and learning how to network VM's so might as well enjoy the tasks while certifying the "process". Last edited by Valken; 19 January 2021 at 05:00.

03 February 2021, 08:21	#8
Valken Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Amiga Posts: 465	I will look at Guardian. Seems somewhat close to what I am looking for. Actually, I play ARMA 3 on the PC and that game is really close (set it to the lowest graphics and geometry mode) but it is too hardcore to pickup for 20-30 minutes. Average playtime is 2-3 hours per mission so wanted something more arcade like with fast physics. I am looking at the sequel on the PSX actually. Old games really shine due to original gameplay mechanics. Last edited by Valken; 03 February 2021 at 11:18.

04 February 2021, 16:07	#12
Valken Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Amiga Posts: 465	@ Angus = Thank you for the info and I know about ARMA mission editor. I just wanted some simple shoot em up missions in the Heli or simular craft, UFO are awesome. I cannot play ARMA 3 now because of STEAM who THINKS my ARMA 3 is NOT installed as it crashed out while online (over heating on my part). Now I have 50 GB of game data that STEAM cannot see, because I also need ANOTHER 50 GB FREE (I do not have this free at the moment as WFH used up HD space) to trick it to "reinstall" then to "find" the existing game files. Sigh... Steam ONLY does this with ARMA 3.... my other games all work... I went back to basic on the Amiga and old games that don't rely on Windows registry or some other third party DRM to validate my ownership. They have my money already, don't hassle me any further. Last edited by Valken; 05 February 2021 at 03:44.

21 March 2021, 12:39	#16
chromax Registered User Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Neo Tokio Posts: 1	A nice remake of Zeewolf https://store.steampowered.com/app/1...el_Alcimus_II/ A cool version of Zarch is on the way https://store.steampowered.com/app/1149500/Arc_Vector/ An AAA variant of lander in some ways... https://store.steampowered.com/app/6...lot_Simulator/ A lovely classic, well playable with a xbox gamepad of flightstick https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/lander Last edited by chromax; 21 March 2021 at 12:52.

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19 January 2021, 10:20	#2
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	There was a Windows/PlayStation version of Virus called V2000 that was released in 1998. Hostile Waters on Windows is a really good version of Carrier Command so it's a bit like Desert Strike.

19 January 2021, 10:44	#3
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 525	Armour-Geddon 1 & 2 have serial link, and nice 3D, you control multiple vehicles like carrier command or Zeewolf 2. Fire Power is pretty good two player split screen. Trick or treat, split screen wolf engine with two wizards battling it out. Spent hours on this one!

19 January 2021, 12:32	#4
Valken Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Amiga Posts: 465	Appreciate the advice! I will try to find Trick or Treat as it seems to be an oldie!!!

19 January 2021, 12:48	#5
lilwshu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: UK Posts: 243	SWIV 3D was very similar IIRC.

19 January 2021, 13:16	#6
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 525	Loved SWIV 3d on the PC. Still got a boxed copy somewhere, great soundtrack!

02 February 2021, 15:02	#7
Angus Amiga Games Database Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South West England Posts: 1,254	I can't think of anything that mayches your requirements. Zeewolf 2 was 1995 so at the end of the Amiga's mainstream commercial game life. A couple of thoughts - Guardian by Acid or Coala from Empire? Not the Virus/Zeewolf perspective, more in or behind the ship/helicopter but worth a look if you haven't seen them. If you love the Virus style engine, and WW2 tanks appeal then Conqueror is pretty good when you get used to the controls. I'm interested in the ArmourGeddon suggestion. I only ever got frustrated with it, when I tried to play singleplayer, but that could have just been me being too ponderous to keep up with the AI. Does it stand up as decent game?

03 February 2021, 09:53	#9
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I'm getting away from Virus-style games but the 1998 Battlezone is brilliant. It's a first-person RTS.

03 February 2021, 10:04	#10
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 525	Simulcra is good one too.

04 February 2021, 21:42	#13
Angus Amiga Games Database Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South West England Posts: 1,254	Wow, not good. Have you tried asking on the community forum? https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/forum/218-arma-3/

05 February 2021, 01:33	#14
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	Not quite virus or ZeeWolf, more like Gunship is a game that David Walters is developing, it hasn't got a name yet but it looks very retro. https://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...JQ7ScIrxjMYoqf

21 March 2021, 16:14	#17
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	This is pushing it a bit, but have a look at "Future Cop: LAPD" on the Playstation. It has a similar gameplay feel.

21 March 2021, 16:23	#18
Valken Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Amiga Posts: 465	Thank you both for the recommendations.

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