Exclusive HardWare Pron from Japan ! XXX68000 ! Zetro Outraged !

coze · 24 April 2008, 14:08

Ok guys, finally I got myself some X68000s ! Here I took some pictures and made google albums. Unfortunately I can't link them directly here (cause the links to actual photos include question mark ?) so you'll have to browse my albums.

Some of you may ask what the hell is a x68000 ? well it's a 68000 based system made by sharp in japan. It was rather unknown outside the japanese market. While the architecture seems similar to Amiga, it has a by far more capable chip set. You may find more info from the following links :

http://nfggames.com/games/X68k/index.shtm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X68000

This is the first x68000 I got :

It was sold as junk. I got it for ... 11$ I guess. It indeed didn't work. The PSU seemed to be alive, but the levels were unstable so I modded a PC PSU. With the PC PSU I was able to see the boot screen, but unable to boot from floppies cause either both floppy drives are dead, or I'm making a mistake connecting them to the mobo.

This is the second x68000 I got. It came in original box with mouse and keyboard, and it costed me .... guess

11 yens. Which is 11 cents or something

But it costed about 25$ for the postage

again sold as junk.

This didn't work too, the PSU was completely dead. But I got to the boot screen again with the PC PSU. But I can't boot, now I have four different floppy drives, and I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong.

Finally I got a X68000 PRO (also in original box). Pro means it's a desktop case rather than a twintowers case, so something like an A2000 I guess. It looks really cool, and working ! (this one costed me some bucks though).

When I said it's working, it worked for 30 mins or something I tried it, and now it bitches a "Adress bus error" in whatever floppy I throw at it (including verified good floppies that worked in the first 30 mins). So I wonder if I got the floppy heads dirty while trying old dusty x68000 disks ... Hmmm I gotta get those drives a head cleaning, but taking apart this baby is a PITA. Bolts, bolts bolts everywhere !

And I got some peripherals :

A chip ram expander (installed inside the second x68000), expansion bus RAM expander (10 mbs I guess), and a SCSI board. The X68000 comes with onboard SASI, which is the precursor to SCSI I guess. At this point I'm not sure how compatible SASI is with the SCSI drives. Normally everything is run from two 5.25' floppy drives, which are 1.2 mb capacity.

I also got a compiler set for the X68000.

How about a x68000 demo for bp09 ?

for those interested, I'll provide some links to x68000 emulation.

Japanese Emulation center
XM6, a very succesful emulator
ROMs for x68000 (It would be great if someone put them alltogether in a single download)
more roms

I'ld especially recommend trying arcade conversions. stuff like street fighter and final fight look great on x68, putting amiga ports to shame. Castlevania is also a famous title on this system I guess. There are also some ports from the Amiga (I guess), dungeon master, powermonger, simcity to name a few. These look generally ok (same with Amiga versions) but simcity sucked really bad, cause I think it used intuition windows on the amiga, and x68 implementation was very inferior.

The system uses an OS called Human OS, made by the lame Hudson soft. It looks like a lame clone of MS DOS. There's also a window manager called SX Windows, it looks ok, but I didn't play much with it. You can find these stuff from the links I provided.

Shoonay · 24 April 2008, 14:33

That be cool, but where are the naughty inside pictures?

MOAR!!!

Fingerlickin_B · 24 April 2008, 14:37

More, more, MORE!!!!

coze · 24 April 2008, 14:50

clicking on piccies will take you to albums, where you can see all the undies !

Graham Humphrey · 24 April 2008, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

clicking on piccies will take you to albums, where you can see all the undies !

I swear I just heard Zetr0's head explode

Zetr0 · 24 April 2008, 16:33

@coze

!!!NOW THAT IS HARDWARE PR0N!!!

unfortunately i have had to "Report Abusive Inappropriate Content" as thats more hardware pr0n than one man should have.... think of the children coze..... the children!

An absoutely awesome collection, although i am not a Sharp Fan Boi, you most certainly have my envy! LOL

and an abuse ticket

@GH

yes, that was because the anesthetic just wore off (i had two teefies pulled today!!!) Owwwie.....

Retro-Nerd · 24 April 2008, 16:37

Aah, the Sharp X68000. This design is so cool, and the most arcade ports are pixelperfect 1:1 copies of the original games.

I use WinX68k, this is a brilliant emulator and in some cases better than playing the games with Mame.

Chain · 24 April 2008, 23:02

可愛い!

Zetr0 · 24 April 2008, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

可愛い!

I cannot believe you said that..... infact i cannot believe i just quoted it...

erm..... what was it....

coze · 25 April 2008, 03:07

he said 'kawai' - cute.

thanks !

coze · 25 April 2008, 05:11

ok, after some extensive cleaning job with my x68 pro this morning, it seems the problem was not the floppy drives, but some leaky caps. I had to remove the mobo and clean some residue underside of it. While I got the mobo out, I should replace those caps, but it looks like a rocket factory there ... There are a total of 52 caps on this thing ! ... fortunately they're all through hole components. Ok now I should make a list of needed caps ...

AGN · 25 April 2008, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

I should replace those caps, but it looks like a rocket factory there ... There are a total of 52 caps on this thing !

Everyone knows, that more caps means better ヘンタイ (変態) games.

laser · 25 April 2008, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Aah, the Sharp X68000. This design is so cool, and the most arcade ports are pixelperfect 1:1 copies of the original games.

I use WinX68k, this is a brilliant emulator and in some cases better than playing the games with Mame.

in which cases you can affirm that are better than mame?

btw,

Im looking for ikari warriors...it exists on x68k platform?
I can't play it on mame cause controls of ikari warriors are rare and I can't configure it

Photon · 25 April 2008, 21:32

laser, Ikari comes in two versions - rotating joystick and 8-way joystick. The latter should work fine.

And yes, I'd love to get an X68000 for my collection - but a working one if possible. As always, the mechanical stoneage parts are what stops working. Bah. :P

OddbOd · 25 April 2008, 22:26

for the twin towers. It's a shame they didn't sell the X68k outside Japan as it was/is a great piece of hardware, then again it's probably the reason why Amigas and STs made no impression over there

Quote:

What is FG ?

I believe it means Frame Ground.

laser · 26 April 2008, 08:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

laser, Ikari comes in two versions - rotating joystick and 8-way joystick. The latter should work fine.

ok...
I have downloaded all ikari versions...us,japan and bootleg....all are rotating joystick

which one is 8 way joystick?

can you upload it to the zone?

frikilokooo · 26 April 2008, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by laser

ok...
I have downloaded all ikari versions...us,japan and bootleg....all are rotating joystick

which one is 8 way joystick?

can you upload it to the zone?

This is completely offtopic anyway I play Ikari Warriors with a digital pad to move to the character and mouse X to aim,left mouse button to shoot and right mouse button for grenades.I think that you need to configurate "default" controls pressing TAB key.

Computolio · 03 May 2008, 05:35

Have you tried a head cleaning disk?

X68000 floppy drives have a crazy high failure rate, and due to their weird extra features nobody's really figured out how to wire up replacements yet. It doesn't hurt to try cleaning them off, of course, as the things are brutally old.

Also, does the Pro get to a boot screen and then throw an error message when you boot off a disk, or does it throw up an error message immediately after powering on? The machine I have apparently says something to the effect of "an error has occured, please restart" instead of giving a disk prompt, but I can get past it if i reset the machine while i have a game/boot disk in the drive.

coze · 03 May 2008, 07:06

yup, I get to a boot screen and I get an error when I try to boot a disk. I can't get past it by resetting while there's a disk in the drive.

In my case, the drives seems to be ok. I'll need to replace the caps.

Computolio · 03 May 2008, 20:15

Have you tried replacing the Pro's power supply? Maybe they're just as flaky as the ones in every other model.

24 April 2008, 14:08	#1
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Exclusive HardWare Pron from Japan ! XXX68000 ! Zetro Outraged ! Ok guys, finally I got myself some X68000s ! Here I took some pictures and made google albums. Unfortunately I can't link them directly here (cause the links to actual photos include question mark ?) so you'll have to browse my albums. Some of you may ask what the hell is a x68000 ? well it's a 68000 based system made by sharp in japan. It was rather unknown outside the japanese market. While the architecture seems similar to Amiga, it has a by far more capable chip set. You may find more info from the following links : http://nfggames.com/games/X68k/index.shtm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X68000 This is the first x68000 I got : It was sold as junk. I got it for ... 11$ I guess. It indeed didn't work. The PSU seemed to be alive, but the levels were unstable so I modded a PC PSU. With the PC PSU I was able to see the boot screen, but unable to boot from floppies cause either both floppy drives are dead, or I'm making a mistake connecting them to the mobo. This is the second x68000 I got. It came in original box with mouse and keyboard, and it costed me .... guess 11 yens. Which is 11 cents or something But it costed about 25$ for the postage again sold as junk. This didn't work too, the PSU was completely dead. But I got to the boot screen again with the PC PSU. But I can't boot, now I have four different floppy drives, and I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong. Finally I got a X68000 PRO (also in original box). Pro means it's a desktop case rather than a twintowers case, so something like an A2000 I guess. It looks really cool, and working ! (this one costed me some bucks though). When I said it's working, it worked for 30 mins or something I tried it, and now it bitches a "Adress bus error" in whatever floppy I throw at it (including verified good floppies that worked in the first 30 mins). So I wonder if I got the floppy heads dirty while trying old dusty x68000 disks ... Hmmm I gotta get those drives a head cleaning, but taking apart this baby is a PITA. Bolts, bolts bolts everywhere ! And I got some peripherals : A chip ram expander (installed inside the second x68000), expansion bus RAM expander (10 mbs I guess), and a SCSI board. The X68000 comes with onboard SASI, which is the precursor to SCSI I guess. At this point I'm not sure how compatible SASI is with the SCSI drives. Normally everything is run from two 5.25' floppy drives, which are 1.2 mb capacity. I also got a compiler set for the X68000. How about a x68000 demo for bp09 ? for those interested, I'll provide some links to x68000 emulation. Japanese Emulation center XM6, a very succesful emulator ROMs for x68000 (It would be great if someone put them alltogether in a single download) more roms I'ld especially recommend trying arcade conversions. stuff like street fighter and final fight look great on x68, putting amiga ports to shame. Castlevania is also a famous title on this system I guess. There are also some ports from the Amiga (I guess), dungeon master, powermonger, simcity to name a few. These look generally ok (same with Amiga versions) but simcity sucked really bad, cause I think it used intuition windows on the amiga, and x68 implementation was very inferior. The system uses an OS called Human OS, made by the lame Hudson soft. It looks like a lame clone of MS DOS. There's also a window manager called SX Windows, it looks ok, but I didn't play much with it. You can find these stuff from the links I provided.

03 May 2008, 05:35	#18
Computolio Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 174	Have you tried a head cleaning disk? X68000 floppy drives have a crazy high failure rate, and due to their weird extra features nobody's really figured out how to wire up replacements yet. It doesn't hurt to try cleaning them off, of course, as the things are brutally old. Also, does the Pro get to a boot screen and then throw an error message when you boot off a disk, or does it throw up an error message immediately after powering on? The machine I have apparently says something to the effect of "an error has occured, please restart" instead of giving a disk prompt, but I can get past it if i reset the machine while i have a game/boot disk in the drive. Last edited by Computolio; 04 May 2008 at 21:30.

03 May 2008, 20:15	#20
Computolio Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 174	Have you tried replacing the Pro's power supply? Maybe they're just as flaky as the ones in every other model. Last edited by Computolio; 03 May 2008 at 23:58.

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24 April 2008, 14:33	#2
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,107	That be cool, but where are the naughty inside pictures? MOAR!!!

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coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	clicking on piccies will take you to albums, where you can see all the undies !

24 April 2008, 16:33	#6
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@coze !!!NOW THAT IS HARDWARE PR0N!!! unfortunately i have had to "Report Abusive Inappropriate Content" as thats more hardware pr0n than one man should have.... think of the children coze..... the children! An absoutely awesome collection, although i am not a Sharp Fan Boi, you most certainly have my envy! LOL and an abuse ticket @GH yes, that was because the anesthetic just wore off (i had two teefies pulled today!!!) Owwwie.....

24 April 2008, 16:37	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Aah, the Sharp X68000. This design is so cool, and the most arcade ports are pixelperfect 1:1 copies of the original games. I use WinX68k, this is a brilliant emulator and in some cases better than playing the games with Mame.

24 April 2008, 23:02	#8
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	可愛い!

25 April 2008, 03:07	#10
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	he said 'kawai' - cute. thanks !

25 April 2008, 05:11	#11
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	ok, after some extensive cleaning job with my x68 pro this morning, it seems the problem was not the floppy drives, but some leaky caps. I had to remove the mobo and clean some residue underside of it. While I got the mobo out, I should replace those caps, but it looks like a rocket factory there ... There are a total of 52 caps on this thing ! ... fortunately they're all through hole components. Ok now I should make a list of needed caps ...

25 April 2008, 21:32	#14
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,647	laser, Ikari comes in two versions - rotating joystick and 8-way joystick. The latter should work fine. And yes, I'd love to get an X68000 for my collection - but a working one if possible. As always, the mechanical stoneage parts are what stops working. Bah. :P

03 May 2008, 07:06	#19
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	yup, I get to a boot screen and I get an error when I try to boot a disk. I can't get past it by resetting while there's a disk in the drive. In my case, the drives seems to be ok. I'll need to replace the caps.

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