01 January 2021, 21:19 | #1 |
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Why does Puggsy look so horribly on the Amiga?
I have always loved the concept of Puggsy by Psygnosis but the colors on Amiga are just terrible. Was this game just rushed out to be finished or is there any other plausible explanation why the colors on Amiga are so bleak and washed out? This game would have deserved a more colourful palette so much because it's a really innovative game after all!
I mean, the first levels have a beach theme and it looks like a beach after acid rain. And the colors just won't get better in later levels :-( |
01 January 2021, 21:51 | #2 | |
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Megadrive was lead version and possibly doing an Amiga conversion at all was a late decision, ironic really when the character of Puggsy originated on the Amiga |
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01 January 2021, 22:02 | #4 |
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I believe they used the same technology/engine in Leander (to be able to use hardware collision detection) by Traveller Tales too.
But the palette in leander is really better. |
02 January 2021, 01:16 | #5 |
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Well not that much, lot of earthly tones; what saves the look in Leander are the copper sky and sprite parallax layer together with the sprite of the character, else i see mostly same choice of color in Bugsy; by the way i feel TT focused more on Megadrive version and Amiga version, as in other cases, was more the draft one that look unfinished compared to the latter MD one.
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I had never ever heard of this Puggsy thing ever before, so I was bothered by this thread for not even putting a HOL link to the game. I had to look it up for myself just now, only to discover that it's yet another forgettable "cutesy" game, the kind of 2D platformer that killed the Amiga.
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02 January 2021, 21:36 | #8 |
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Well, the Amiga was host to DOZENS of cutesy or just plain cartoon character 2D platformer protagonists, it was hard to know them all, and I just didn't bother, as I've never liked 2D platformers or side-scrolling shooters (another common-as-muck genre on the Amiga). It's funny, but even with my later love of FPS games on PC, I still didn't like the floating platform sections in games like Half-Life, neither.
I think it was because I turned 18 before I got my Amiga 30 years ago, and the last thing I wanted to do was to play games intended for pre-teens, of which the Amiga had way too many. I mean, I can't seriously imagine people of my age then or older playing such things. I think that's why the Demoscene appeals to me so much, as these kids finally put down their joysticks and decided to CREATE rather than just consume - I did a similar thing, but only for games. |
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Puggsy has some good physics and object management. Objects bounce, you can jump on them, they have a weight and all. Does that quality make a good game? Not sure.
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I was going to say this. Have never played it but the physics of the objects look great! So how could they have done it better? (in terms of graphics) Just got rid of one of the playfields? or used sprites somehow? |
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03 January 2021, 16:44 | #15 |
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I bought this near release because it had been reduced to a few quid, thinking it looked like Dizzy. I got it home and it did indeed remind me of Dizzy, at which point I remembered Dizzy was crap.
I don't get the comments about dual playfields, as it doesn't seem to have them either in my memory or in videos on Youtube. |
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dual playfield was used for collision, not for parallax scrolling IIRC what I read about Leander.
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03 January 2021, 19:12 | #17 |
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Just saw gameplay for Puggsy, what an ugly-looking game. The colours could've been improved, but it looks like there's only eight in total, aside from the copper background.
If the game has dual playfield and it was used solely for collision, then how does that work? Never heard of a game doing that before. |
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I thought I read it somewhere, but instead I saw a YT video about Leander pixel perfect collision
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=515 |
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After all, if you do want to go that route, you could just as well draw the objects you want to collide with using a separate palette on this collision playfield. Same with the sprites you want to collision check, they too could have their own colours. So while it is possible, if they have gone this way it doesn't look like it's implemented very well. |
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