New Board for Mac Amiga emulation

Washac · 30 January 2005, 14:10

Hi All

Not being able to find a forum where E-UAE & the Amiga Emulation Bundle could be discussed I have setup a List at:-

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MACUAE

This list is for the Mac.

It is new so please bear with me and the list, and hopefully word will sneak out and things will get going.

Thanks for your time..

Amiga1992 · 30 January 2005, 17:50

Excellent stuff, I will post since I've been having a few probs with my installation

Pyromania · 14 June 2007, 04:12

Why does the Mac version of UAE suck so bad compared to WinUAE? I am trying to evaluated Aladdin 4D and it took me 2-3 hours to get everything setup right on a iBook. I could have just used my desktop XP machine but then I would not be able to use UAE from the comfort of my nice Queen size foam bed.

Fred the Fop · 14 June 2007, 07:14

I am solving this issue by saving up for a Mac Book. That way I can use Parallels or Boot Camp to use the vastly superior WinUAE.

ant512 · 14 June 2007, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred the Duck

I am solving this issue by saving up for a Mac Book. That way I can use Parallels or Boot Camp to use the vastly superior WinUAE.

WinUAE in Parallels 3 with DirectX switched on - you rarely notice that it's running in a VM. It's considerably faster than the Intel build of E-UAE.

Pyromania · 14 June 2007, 17:45

@Fred the Duck

I had that solution till my MacBook got stolen.

Marcuz · 14 June 2007, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred the Duck

I am solving this issue by saving up for a Mac Book. That way I can use Parallels or Boot Camp to use the vastly superior WinUAE.

me too, i'll wait after october, though

boing_1000 · 16 June 2007, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

me too, i'll wait after october, though

why? are they releasing new hardware then?

Marcuz · 16 June 2007, 15:42

in October the new OS will be out and possibly by then the macbook will have been updated more consistently than in the last upgrade. i also want to see the new Imac before to decide.

Tony Landais · 04 January 2008, 19:45

where can I get a good version of UAE for Mac OS X Intel based?

Hungry Horace · 05 January 2008, 14:05

afaik, there is only the PPC build - which i'm using on an Intel MacBook and has been working fine.

you will need the hi-toro GUI too probably: http://www.pimley.net/projects_hi-toro.html

i disagree that WinUAE is "far superior" - it's just the functionality of the GUI and the lack of a x86 e-uae build (any volenteers?) that lets it down.

re: running parallels on MacBook - i tried with with winuae-kaillera build and you get a different FPS every time you run it... not to mention some choppy sound. I'm also buggered if i can get the F12 key working, despite making sure leopard isnt grabbing it and stopping me using it....
very odd considering F3 for search seems to work.

Oh and help/del keys and the numpad are also unreachable... but this is true on e-uae too!

Normal WinUAE i think ran ok, but no better than e-uae, with the exception of the functionality. Not really worth it considering i couldnt hit F12.

Tony Landais · 05 January 2008, 16:05

PPC version runs far too slow on intel based machines.
I am surprised nobody was interested in building a MAC OS X version.

I only get a proper ntsc and pal vertical synchro on my TV from MAC OS X.

Hungry Horace · 05 January 2008, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Landais

PPC version runs far too slow on intel based machines.

it runs normal speed here on a MacBook dualcore 2.2. i dont know what your talking about?

maybe it because i'm only using it for games / AMOS.

Octamed runs crap on it, but that's true of WinUAE too.

Unch · 05 January 2008, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

afaik, there is only the PPC build - which i'm using on an Intel MacBook and has been working fine.

Someone on Amiga.org made an experimental x86 build that had JIT. I don't think that it's that difficult to do. IIRC the only reason there isn't an Intel build available directly from EvilRich is because he simply doesn't own an Intel Mac.

Hungry Horace · 05 January 2008, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unch

Someone on Amiga.org made an experimental x86 build that had JIT. I don't think that it's that difficult to do. IIRC the only reason there isn't an Intel build available directly from EvilRich is because he simply doesn't own an Intel Mac.

well if someone on -this- board fancies doing it, or pointing me towards a copy, i'd be quite happy to "test" it!

Tony Landais · 05 January 2008, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

well if someone on -this- board fancies doing it, or pointing me towards a copy, i'd be quite happy to "test" it!

that makes at least 2 interested now

... come on!

OddbOd · 06 January 2008, 10:49

I must be missing something here, what's wrong with using Jens Weichert's E-UAE Universal Binaries?

Tony Landais · 06 January 2008, 15:38

Thanks OddOd!
Great news to see someone actually did an Universal version. But I still can t make it emulate a simple A500 at nomal speed so I must do something wrong.
Do you know how to get the best of it on Intel machines ?
I used Hi Toro for the configuration, maybe there is an Intel flag for optimization.

OddbOd · 06 January 2008, 17:41

Did you enable OpenGL rendering? This seems to make quite a significant difference.

I just tried it again on my brother's Hackintosh (10.4.9 running on an AMD64 3700+) and the performance was fine, hopefully you aren't experiencing the same mysterious slow-down as the guy in this thread because so far nobody seems to have figured out why it happens.

Unch · 06 January 2008, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

well if someone on -this- board fancies doing it, or pointing me towards a copy, i'd be quite happy to "test" it!

As mentioned in OddbOd's link Bloodline's Intel build is found at -

http://www.troubled-mind.co.uk/UAE.zip

30 January 2005, 14:10	#1
Washac Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: UK Southern End Posts: 704	New Board for Mac Amiga emulation Hi All Not being able to find a forum where E-UAE & the Amiga Emulation Bundle could be discussed I have setup a List at:- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MACUAE This list is for the Mac. It is new so please bear with me and the list, and hopefully word will sneak out and things will get going. Thanks for your time.. Last edited by Washac; 02 February 2005 at 09:29. Reason: URL change (incorrect)

05 January 2008, 14:05	#11
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	afaik, there is only the PPC build - which i'm using on an Intel MacBook and has been working fine. you will need the hi-toro GUI too probably: http://www.pimley.net/projects_hi-toro.html i disagree that WinUAE is "far superior" - it's just the functionality of the GUI and the lack of a x86 e-uae build (any volenteers?) that lets it down. re: running parallels on MacBook - i tried with with winuae-kaillera build and you get a different FPS every time you run it... not to mention some choppy sound. I'm also buggered if i can get the F12 key working, despite making sure leopard isnt grabbing it and stopping me using it.... very odd considering F3 for search seems to work. Oh and help/del keys and the numpad are also unreachable... but this is true on e-uae too! Normal WinUAE i think ran ok, but no better than e-uae, with the exception of the functionality. Not really worth it considering i couldnt hit F12. Last edited by Hungry Horace; 05 January 2008 at 15:43.

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30 January 2005, 17:50	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	Excellent stuff, I will post since I've been having a few probs with my installation

14 June 2007, 04:12	#3
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	Why does the Mac version of UAE suck so bad compared to WinUAE? I am trying to evaluated Aladdin 4D and it took me 2-3 hours to get everything setup right on a iBook. I could have just used my desktop XP machine but then I would not be able to use UAE from the comfort of my nice Queen size foam bed.

14 June 2007, 07:14	#4
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	I am solving this issue by saving up for a Mac Book. That way I can use Parallels or Boot Camp to use the vastly superior WinUAE.

14 June 2007, 17:45	#6
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	@Fred the Duck I had that solution till my MacBook got stolen.

16 June 2007, 15:42	#9
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	in October the new OS will be out and possibly by then the macbook will have been updated more consistently than in the last upgrade. i also want to see the new Imac before to decide.

04 January 2008, 19:45	#10
Tony Landais Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 426	where can I get a good version of UAE for Mac OS X Intel based?

05 January 2008, 16:05	#12
Tony Landais Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 426	PPC version runs far too slow on intel based machines. I am surprised nobody was interested in building a MAC OS X version. I only get a proper ntsc and pal vertical synchro on my TV from MAC OS X.

06 January 2008, 10:49	#17
OddbOd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Age: 46 Posts: 666	I must be missing something here, what's wrong with using Jens Weichert's E-UAE Universal Binaries?

06 January 2008, 15:38	#18
Tony Landais Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 426	Thanks OddOd! Great news to see someone actually did an Universal version. But I still can t make it emulate a simple A500 at nomal speed so I must do something wrong. Do you know how to get the best of it on Intel machines ? I used Hi Toro for the configuration, maybe there is an Intel flag for optimization.

06 January 2008, 17:41	#19
OddbOd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Age: 46 Posts: 666	Did you enable OpenGL rendering? This seems to make quite a significant difference. I just tried it again on my brother's Hackintosh (10.4.9 running on an AMD64 3700+) and the performance was fine, hopefully you aren't experiencing the same mysterious slow-down as the guy in this thread because so far nobody seems to have figured out why it happens.

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