Coverdisk list for SPS preservation

Codetapper · 09 June 2014, 15:01

As requested in another thread, here's a WIP list of the coverdisks I've been sent for turning into IPFs for preservation.

If the disk has OK! beside it, the dump is good. If a disk isn't listed, I don't have a RAW dump of it.

If a dump is bad, I'll write who sent it so you know if it's your copy! Missing indicates that at least one disk from that particular issue is missing.

Here's the full list of issues

tomse · 09 June 2014, 16:12

which do you want, RAW files made from the amiga, or the streamfiles from the kryoflux?

great initiative though !

(I have a diskbox of Amiga Format, + some random of other)

alexh · 09 June 2014, 16:54

It would be good if we can identify which cover disks do not have ADF files (probably because they were copy protected or dual format) and most in need of IPF images?

Nobby_UK · 09 June 2014, 22:11

SPS preservation do not like ADF's
and the one RAW I made was 3 Meg

Codetapper · 09 June 2014, 22:35

RAW files are needed for the SPS dumping tools if I'm able to process them. The Kyroflux ones could be done by the SPS team but they're so busy I fear it'd just be more delays! I can tell pretty quickly if they're unmodified so if people start uploading them, I'll process as quickly as I can.

I have no way of telling which disks are plain ADFs and which are custom format/copy protected without actually getting hold of the disks. I know some which definitely are non AmigaDOS but there's hundreds of disks out there.

My collection sadly has a lot of modified disks as back in the day I compressed some of the files on the disk or replaced whole disks with cracks hence a fair number of mine are no good for preservation

Each magazine on AMR has a coverdisk index (where known) which at least lists what's on the disks. eg. Amiga Format coverdisks, Amiga Power coverdisks, CU Amiga coverdisks etc...

Galahad/FLT · 10 June 2014, 00:43

I did a clean crack of Archipelagos Amiga Format coverdisk for Prowler I think it was.

Nobby_UK · 10 June 2014, 02:36

I suppose archiving (Zip/Rar, Lha/Lzx) the RAWS is acceptable

I have just done AP11, 12a, 13a, 14a and b.

Codetapper · 10 June 2014, 03:06

Great thanks Nobby. And yep, archiving them is great! Will you upload them to the Zone or something? You can email them to me otherwise if that's easier, codetapper at gmail.

One thing I haven't had a reply from the SPS boys is the actual naming convention to use on these. To keep them Amiga compatible they really should be 31 chars or less, but then you can't describe what's on them very well, especially the disks like Amiga Computing or CU Amiga that had tonnes of stuff on them.

Any brilliant ideas?

ajk · 10 June 2014, 07:50

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but it's not quite clear to me - do you also want dumps for floppies not listed here, or just replacements for the listed bad ones? I've got most CU Amiga and Amiga Format coverdisks from about 1993 onwards, and a Kryoflux.

mr.vince · 10 June 2014, 09:38

Codetapper... DTC can convert KryoFlux stream dumps to CT RAW. You can then process them!

As for naming... As you wish. I am emailing you for numbering them internally.

Codetapper · 10 June 2014, 10:50

ajk: Those are what I have, so any that are missing or marked bad, I'd like. I have found a lot more of my Amiga Format and Amiga Power disks so will add them to the list as I check they are OK.

ajk · 10 June 2014, 13:25

Okay, I'll start imaging mine soon. I should in principle have a full set from whenever I ordered the mags up to the time when they switched to CDs, though I know some are broken.

I kinda thought the cover disks have been archived many times over by now, so hadn't bothered doing anything with mine

IFW · 10 June 2014, 15:13

Not at all; archiving cover disks in their original state is an important project - they reflect on the history of the platform just as well as the games themselves.

Nobby_UK · 10 June 2014, 21:02

Zoned as e-mail bounced

Is there a size limit to e-mails ?

Codetapper · 10 June 2014, 21:57

I'd say google doesn't like rar archives rather than any limit. Zip should work, but the zone is fine. I'll process those ones you uploaded tonight! Thanks!

tomse · 10 June 2014, 21:57

Doing Amiga Format disk 11 now.
I also just read from mr.vince that dtc can convert from kryo stream to ct raw.. I'll be doing this tomorrow and send you a test.

doing it with the kryo is quite faster than doing it on the amiga.

as I said I have a full diskbox Amiga Format, I hope most of them will be useful.

edit: it isn't disk 11 but amiga format collection nr11

mr.vince · 11 June 2014, 10:04

DTC -f<streamfilenamehere> -i0 -f<ctrawnamehere> -i2 -m1

-m1 tells DTC to use stream as input...

Retroplay · 11 June 2014, 16:11

Anybody else get corrupted enemy sprites in the Project-X demo on disk 12a in WinUAE ?
Cycle exact doesn't seem to fix it.

Btw thanks for zoning them Nobby.

tomse · 11 June 2014, 19:08

doing the following amiga format disks in this batch run.
27
43b
63b
64b
65a-84b

88ab
89ab
92ab
93ab
94ab

Subscribers disk
101-104
106-125

Nobby_UK · 11 June 2014, 19:54

Yes I get that. Prob... some disk corruption = The reason for "modified"
Did you have any trouble with the Menu ?
On my 600 & 1200 --- F1 and F2 did not respond
But fine on my 500 (half + half)

I did alter the Start-up on AP11
But changed it back --- I did not think it would show ?

10 more for the Zone in a mo...

#EDIT#
Is it just me or is the Zone Slow today ?

09 June 2014, 15:01	#1
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Coverdisk list for SPS preservation As requested in another thread, here's a WIP list of the coverdisks I've been sent for turning into IPFs for preservation. If the disk has OK! beside it, the dump is good. If a disk isn't listed, I don't have a RAW dump of it. If a dump is bad, I'll write who sent it so you know if it's your copy! Missing indicates that at least one disk from that particular issue is missing. Here's the full list of issues Last edited by Codetapper; 13 July 2014 at 12:37. Reason: The post is now too big to edit, so has been split into separate posts

09 June 2014, 22:35	#5
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	RAW files are needed for the SPS dumping tools if I'm able to process them. The Kyroflux ones could be done by the SPS team but they're so busy I fear it'd just be more delays! I can tell pretty quickly if they're unmodified so if people start uploading them, I'll process as quickly as I can. I have no way of telling which disks are plain ADFs and which are custom format/copy protected without actually getting hold of the disks. I know some which definitely are non AmigaDOS but there's hundreds of disks out there. My collection sadly has a lot of modified disks as back in the day I compressed some of the files on the disk or replaced whole disks with cracks hence a fair number of mine are no good for preservation Each magazine on AMR has a coverdisk index (where known) which at least lists what's on the disks. eg. Amiga Format coverdisks, Amiga Power coverdisks, CU Amiga coverdisks etc... Last edited by prowler; 10 June 2014 at 00:13. Reason: Fixed link.

10 June 2014, 21:57	#16
tomse We need more scans! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Copenhagen / Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 326	Doing Amiga Format disk 11 now. I also just read from mr.vince that dtc can convert from kryo stream to ct raw.. I'll be doing this tomorrow and send you a test. doing it with the kryo is quite faster than doing it on the amiga. as I said I have a full diskbox Amiga Format, I hope most of them will be useful. edit: it isn't disk 11 but amiga format collection nr11 Last edited by tomse; 10 June 2014 at 22:10.

11 June 2014, 19:54	#20
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	Yes I get that. Prob... some disk corruption = The reason for "modified" Did you have any trouble with the Menu ? On my 600 & 1200 --- F1 and F2 did not respond But fine on my 500 (half + half) I did alter the Start-up on AP11 But changed it back --- I did not think it would show ? 10 more for the Zone in a mo... #EDIT# Is it just me or is the Zone Slow today ? Last edited by Nobby_UK; 11 June 2014 at 20:33.

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09 June 2014, 16:12	#2
tomse We need more scans! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Copenhagen / Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 326	which do you want, RAW files made from the amiga, or the streamfiles from the kryoflux? great initiative though ! (I have a diskbox of Amiga Format, + some random of other)

09 June 2014, 16:54	#3
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,334	It would be good if we can identify which cover disks do not have ADF files (probably because they were copy protected or dual format) and most in need of IPF images?

09 June 2014, 22:11	#4
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	SPS preservation do not like ADF's and the one RAW I made was 3 Meg

10 June 2014, 00:43	#6
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	I did a clean crack of Archipelagos Amiga Format coverdisk for Prowler I think it was.

10 June 2014, 02:36	#7
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	I suppose archiving (Zip/Rar, Lha/Lzx) the RAWS is acceptable I have just done AP11, 12a, 13a, 14a and b.

10 June 2014, 03:06	#8
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Great thanks Nobby. And yep, archiving them is great! Will you upload them to the Zone or something? You can email them to me otherwise if that's easier, codetapper at gmail. One thing I haven't had a reply from the SPS boys is the actual naming convention to use on these. To keep them Amiga compatible they really should be 31 chars or less, but then you can't describe what's on them very well, especially the disks like Amiga Computing or CU Amiga that had tonnes of stuff on them. Any brilliant ideas?

10 June 2014, 07:50	#9
ajk Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,341	Sorry if this is a stupid question, but it's not quite clear to me - do you also want dumps for floppies not listed here, or just replacements for the listed bad ones? I've got most CU Amiga and Amiga Format coverdisks from about 1993 onwards, and a Kryoflux.

10 June 2014, 09:38	#10
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Codetapper... DTC can convert KryoFlux stream dumps to CT RAW. You can then process them! As for naming... As you wish. I am emailing you for numbering them internally.

10 June 2014, 10:50	#11
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	ajk: Those are what I have, so any that are missing or marked bad, I'd like. I have found a lot more of my Amiga Format and Amiga Power disks so will add them to the list as I check they are OK.

10 June 2014, 13:25	#12
ajk Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,341	Okay, I'll start imaging mine soon. I should in principle have a full set from whenever I ordered the mags up to the time when they switched to CDs, though I know some are broken. I kinda thought the cover disks have been archived many times over by now, so hadn't bothered doing anything with mine

10 June 2014, 15:13	#13
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Not at all; archiving cover disks in their original state is an important project - they reflect on the history of the platform just as well as the games themselves.

10 June 2014, 21:02	#14
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	Zoned as e-mail bounced Is there a size limit to e-mails ?

11 June 2014, 10:04	#17
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	DTC -f<streamfilenamehere> -i0 -f<ctrawnamehere> -i2 -m1 -m1 tells DTC to use stream as input...

11 June 2014, 16:11	#18
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	Anybody else get corrupted enemy sprites in the Project-X demo on disk 12a in WinUAE ? Cycle exact doesn't seem to fix it. Btw thanks for zoning them Nobby.

11 June 2014, 19:08	#19
tomse We need more scans! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Copenhagen / Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 326	doing the following amiga format disks in this batch run. 27 43b 63b 64b 65a-84b 88ab 89ab 92ab 93ab 94ab Subscribers disk 101-104 106-125

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