English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Main > Retrogaming General Discussion

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 25 January 2023, 08:17   #21
Minuous
Coder/webmaster/gamer
 
Minuous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canberra/Australia
Posts: 2,630
Just posted about http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?N_ref_conversion=8 and then noticed TCD had beaten me to it :-(

Definitely a quicker and more accurate/complete way of generating this list, hope you did not waste too much time on it.
Minuous is online now  
Old 25 January 2023, 08:43   #22
Megalomaniac
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT View Post
I dont like to be a pedant, but First Samurai was NOT a success, so god only knows how it was reported like that.

First Samurai and Mega-Lo-Mania both suffered due to the collapse of Mirrorsoft/Imageworks when Robert Maxwell topped himself!
I think he topped himself because the company was collapsing, but yea, a few games lost out on sales but those two were the best ones. Judging by charts from the time, Mega-lo-Mania was out a couple of months earlier so had already done okay, but that UbiSoft double pack (which I bought) was damage limitation for both developers. Not sure how many that sold, or how much of the money went to Vivid Image and Sensible. I guess what they mean is that its reputation and popularity meant there was demand for a sequel (although it took ages for them to do a publishing deal for Second Samurai, which I think is why the A500 version doesn't work on the A1200 despite being released a year after it)

Last edited by Megalomaniac; 25 January 2023 at 08:59.
Megalomaniac is online now  
Old 25 January 2023, 09:08   #23
dlfrsilver
CaptainM68K-SPS France
 
dlfrsilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melun nearby Paris/France
Age: 46
Posts: 10,412
Send a message via MSN to dlfrsilver
Quote:
Originally Posted by gimbal View Post
The same for Strider 2. Amiga version is a Tiertex original abomicreation, the Genesis game is made by Capcom itself.
Tiertex did strider 2 megadrive for USGOLD. Capcom is not linked to Strider 2 in 2D......
dlfrsilver is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 10:05   #24
gimbal
cheeky scoundrel
 
gimbal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands
Age: 42
Posts: 6,905
I stand corrected? Man there is no sign of it on the title screen, at least not the one that i found. Looks like a different game though :/

Not a really good one though, maybe that should have tipped me off.
gimbal is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 10:15   #25
Fiery Phoenix
Registered User
 
Fiery Phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Bury, Lancs
Age: 47
Posts: 661
Guessing not including Sega CD titles like AH-3 Thunderstrike (ThunderHawk - Amiga) and Dragon's Lair?
Fiery Phoenix is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 10:17   #26
TCD
HOL/FTP busy bee
 
TCD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Germany
Age: 46
Posts: 31,518
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiery Phoenix View Post
Guessing not including Sega CD titles like AH-3 Thunderstrike (ThunderHawk - Amiga) and Dragon's Lair?
Good point. Here's the HOL list for those: https://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php..._conversion=56
TCD is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 10:22   #27
alexh
Thalion Webshrine
 
alexh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oxford
Posts: 14,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT View Post
First Samurai was NOT a success
How on earth did Second Samurai get made then?
alexh is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 10:26   #28
DanScott
Lemon. / Core Design
 
DanScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Tier 5
Posts: 1,209
Chuck Rock 2 was developed simulateously on Amiga and Megadrive
DanScott is online now  
Old 25 January 2023, 10:42   #29
gimbal
cheeky scoundrel
 
gimbal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands
Age: 42
Posts: 6,905
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexh View Post
How on earth did Second Samurai get made then?
The review scores were quite high across the board according to HOL, so perhaps that is what is meant by "success". Seemed like a good property to take a chance on, putting out a sequel might create interest in the first game as well.
gimbal is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 11:51   #30
sokolovic
Registered User
 
sokolovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Marseille / France
Posts: 1,416
Plus the commercial failure of the First one wasn't due to market rejection but rather company bankrupcy.
sokolovic is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 16:17   #31
Torti-the-Smurf
Registered User
 
Torti-the-Smurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,058
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT View Post
I dont like to be a pedant, but First Samurai was NOT a success, so god only knows how it was reported like that.

First Samurai and Mega-Lo-Mania both suffered due to the collapse of Mirrorsoft/Imageworks when Robert Maxwell topped himself!
I loved First Samurai

(the Second Samurai is still one of the coolest Amiga Game imho )

The Fist Samurai / Mega-Lo-Mania Pack was my first
original bought Amiga Game and will always have a special place for me.

Back on Topic tho.

Wonderdog is missing from the List

Maybe you can add that wondrous Dog
Torti-the-Smurf is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 16:45   #32
TCD
HOL/FTP busy bee
 
TCD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Germany
Age: 46
Posts: 31,518
Quote:
Originally Posted by Torti-the-Smurf View Post
Wonderdog is missing from the List

Maybe you can add that wondrous Dog
Fiery mentioned that the list doesn't include MegaCD titles.
TCD is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 17:13   #33
Torti-the-Smurf
Registered User
 
Torti-the-Smurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Earth
Posts: 1,058
Ohhh well then; nevermind

Thanks TCD
Torti-the-Smurf is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 18:08   #34
lionagony
Registered User
 
lionagony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Toronto
Posts: 381
Quote:
Originally Posted by TCD View Post
Just quickly skimmed the thread, but you could also cross-reference HOL: https://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?N_ref_conversion=8

Seems like there are a few more, but it might be just multiple names for the same game though.
Doh! It's okay, it was kind of fun trying to do it off the top of my head a bit, only took a few hours! So big changes ahead:

Have to add Blockout, F1 World Championship Edition, Final Blow, G-Loc Air Battle, Galaxy Force 2, Gaunlet IV, Jim Power, Mig 29, Nobunaga's Ambition, Onslaught, SS Lucifer Man Overboard, Total Football, Arnold Palmer Tournament Golf, Winter Olympics, World Class Leaderboard and World Cup USA 94.

Have to delete Batman Returns, Last Action Hero, Moonwalker, Rambo III and Risk for being too different and Ms Pacman for being PD.

Looks like HOL has Afterburner for Genesis but I can't find it listed.

Also have to add Amiga developed to Flashback, Jim Power and Nigel Mansell.
lionagony is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 18:44   #35
lionagony
Registered User
 
lionagony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Toronto
Posts: 381
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiery Phoenix View Post
Guessing not including Sega CD titles like AH-3 Thunderstrike (ThunderHawk - Amiga) and Dragon's Lair?
I added them to the original post under Honourable Mentions.

And just for fun since I clearly have too much time on my hands I quickly went through the HOL List for SNES and there are 123 games in common with the Amiga, so pretty good. I won't bother keeping a comprehensive list for SNES but the Amiga games on that console that weren't on the Sega Genesis or Sega CD are A-Train, Alfred Chicken, Bombuzal, Brainies, California Games 2, Civilization, Cool World, Dennis, Drakkhen, Dungeon Master, European Football Champ, First Samurai, Home Alone, Lambourghini Challenge, Lethal Weapon, Magic Boy, Morph, Mr Blobby, Obitus, Operation Thunderbolt, Oscar, Pierre Le Chef, Pinball Dreams and Fantasies, Pushover, Putty Squad, Sim City, Sim Ant, Soccer Kid, Spindizzy Worlds, Super Loopz, Super Putty, Total Carnage, Troddlers, UN Squadron, Ultima VI, Untouchables, Utopia, Whizz and Wizardry.

I think a lot of people would be shocked that the Amiga shares well over 220 games with the 16 bit consoles.

Last edited by lionagony; 25 January 2023 at 19:39. Reason: added SNES talk
lionagony is offline  
Old 25 January 2023, 18:57   #36
TCD
HOL/FTP busy bee
 
TCD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Germany
Age: 46
Posts: 31,518
Quote:
Originally Posted by lionagony View Post
Looks like HOL has Afterburner for Genesis but I can't find it listed.
It's the same game as After Burner II on Genesis/MegaDrive.
TCD is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sega Genesis - BBS Scene Collection plasmatron Collections 6 20 June 2019 23:01
JAVA on Sega Genesis Amiga1992 Coders. Language 1 23 November 2015 20:55
Sega megadrive (genesis) control pad mod for amiga paulisthebest Hardware mods 6 29 April 2013 08:09
Pier Solar - A new Sega Genesis RPG Retro-Nerd Retrogaming General Discussion 15 07 September 2008 11:53

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:11.

Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Page generated in 0.09550 seconds with 13 queries