Evil's Doom - Page 2

meynaf · 31 January 2017, 19:20

Normally this game should run on stock A1200 so if it needs 32mb of fast there's something wrong with the package !

DamienD · 31 January 2017, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Normally this game should run on stock A1200 so if it needs 32mb of fast there's something wrong with the package !

Yeah, sounds like it.

I didn't create the package though; dlfrsilver did... Maybe he knows why it needs sooooo much Fast RAM?

DamienD · 31 January 2017, 19:57

Just tested and it does indeed work with only 2MB Chip

DamienD · 01 February 2017, 16:37

I've just updated the .HDF to display the "EvilsDoomFAQ.txt" file via PPMore before starting the game

apex · 02 March 2017, 12:49

Is the 1.9 working? I cannot save, Amiga freeze.

Muadib · 21 September 2019, 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

yes it works for me, perfectly

Hi, I just discovered this amazing RPG but I can't make it to Save a game. It just sits there with the screen showing the two swords and doing nothing. No keys respond to it, except ofc Ctrl Amiga Amiga.

Do you know how I can fix this, please?

Thanks!

My system: A1200 + 060@50 + 256MB RAM + IndivisionMK2cr + ROM 3.1

Solo Kazuki · 21 September 2019, 11:32

Which version of game You play? Do You have RealSave/Save/ directory? Can You do screenshot or photo (if on real hardware)?

Muadib · 21 September 2019, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

Which version of game You play? Do You have RealSave/Save/ directory? Can You do screenshot or photo (if on real hardware)?

Hi Solo,

The version I play is the one by HOBRING (1.8), which can be found here
Yes, the RelSave/Save directory does exist and is assigned during launch of the game. I also tried other assignments but they all resulted in the game crashing from the beginning.
Of course, here is a screenshot from UAE, which has same behaviour as on the real Amiga:

Upon pressing ENTER to save the game hangs into this screen:

Solo Kazuki · 22 September 2019, 16:06

Try another version, e.g. from Grandis (EAB server). Here's v1.9 with Meynaf patch.

Muadib · 22 September 2019, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

Try another version, e.g. from Grandis (EAB server). Here's v1.9 with Meynaf patch.

I tried it and the behaviour is exactly the same...

Note: I am trying to save the game at the beginning, before I enter any other location.

meynaf · 23 September 2019, 10:01

Are you 100% sure the game's directory isn't write protected in some way ?

Try doing this from your game dir :
protect all #? +rwed

Also make sure of the way it is launched (with a script in the game's dir itself) :

Code:

assign Evil: ""
assign Saga: RealSave
EVIL:prg/int.dat

If everything else fails, try copying the game to RAM: (you seem to have more than enough ram to do that) and try to save from there. I tried it with my version and it works fine.
If it doesn't work, there is something wrong with your machine.
If it works, there is something wrong with your hd partition.
Or so I think

Solo Kazuki · 23 September 2019, 11:01

What FS is on partition You run Evil's Doom? If PFS try some other filesystem, because PFS could be wrong handled by some games.

Muadib · 23 September 2019, 19:18

Thanks for your help, guys!
Ok, let's see...

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Are you 100% sure the game's directory isn't write protected in some way ?

Try doing this from your game dir :
protect all #? +rwed

Also make sure of the way it is launched (with a script in the game's dir itself) :

Code:

assign Evil: ""
assign Saga: RealSave
EVIL:prg/int.dat

If everything else fails, try copying the game to RAM: (you seem to have more than enough ram to do that) and try to save from there. I tried it with my version and it works fine.
If it doesn't work, there is something wrong with your machine.
If it works, there is something wrong with your hd partition.
Or so I think

@Meynaf, I tried everything you instructed, but to no avail. The thing is, the game has EXACTLY the same behaviour on WinUAE, too! All other games in the partition can save just fine...

@Solo Kazuki, I use SFS on this one and most of my partitions, PFS on one of them. It could be it, but it doesn't explain why it doesn't save while everything is on RAM.

What ROM and Workbench do you guys run on?
I have 3.9 installed on 3.1 ROMS.

UPDATE: As I observed just now, the game does not crash. The music plays normally yet the only keys that are responsive are the main keyboard's PLUS and MINUS signs that increase and decrease the music's volume. Other than that, it just keeps showing the same: the 2 swords as the last picture I have attached...

DamienD · 23 September 2019, 20:21

I'd love to test out "Saving" in WinUAE but...

The "GameKeys.readme" says the following:

Code:

-ingame dungeon keys:
		SPACE 	- change hi/low resolution
		M 	- look at magic map (if cast)
		R	- rest party
		V	- version/party treasure
		L	- load game
		S	- save game
		<- 	- scroll text up
		F	- toggle torch flickering on/off
		HELP	- examine picked item
		F5	- toggle music / SFX quality

-numeric keyboard:
		1,2,3	- cast stored spells
		4	- move left
		5	- move back
		6	- move right
		7	- turn left
		8	- move forvard
		9	- turn right

- casting spells: 	see file x/runecasting.iff

I can't find the closest dungeon to try this

Muadib · 23 September 2019, 20:28

@Damien on the first playable screen press the second icon from the right, that looks like two crossed swords on a shield. Then select a character, and the SAVE and LOAD icons will appear.

midwan · 23 September 2019, 20:28

I also have the same exact problem when trying to save the game, as described by Muadib.

I tested it in WinUAE 4.2.1, with a cloned config of my real A4000D (040, Kick 3.1.4, vanilla 3.1.4 Workbench installation). I can post the config file also if it helps.

I extracted the latest 1.9 version to a directory, and used that as a virtual 2nd drive in WinUAE (the 1st drive has the 3.1.4 system it boots from). The directory is of course, read/write.

I could get up to the point of saving the game, but right after typing the Save game title and hitting enter, the screen fades to black but doesn't come back afterwards (only the two swords remain visible, as in the screenshot above).

I also tested the version from thecompany.pl, which worked normally with saving the game! Not sure what's different there, as it's all packed in an EXE file (game, emulator and config).

I couldn't test it on my real 060 A4000, as it hung much earlier than that. Right after the title screen, I get a black screen and it doesn't continue any further.

DamienD · 23 September 2019, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muadib

@Damien on the first playable screen press the second icon from the right, that looks like two crossed swords on a shield. Then select a character, and the SAVE and LOAD icons will appear.

Thanks

Just tested and the same issue as you...

I don't see any hard drive "write" activity. If I reset nothing has been saved.

Do you need to be in a dungeon though as the "GameKeys.readme" suggests? Or am I reading this wrong?

DamienD · 23 September 2019, 20:40

These are definitely there:

Code:

assign Evil: ""
assign Saga: RealSave
EVIL:prg/int.dat

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Try doing this from your game dir :

protect all #? +rwed

Tried doing just to be sure, but the same issue...

meynaf · 23 September 2019, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muadib

@Meynaf, I tried everything you instructed, but to no avail. The thing is, the game has EXACTLY the same behaviour on WinUAE, too! All other games in the partition can save just fine...

Perhaps it doesn't like 68060 (maybe even 68040). What happens when you setup winuae for 68030 ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muadib

@Solo Kazuki, I use SFS on this one and most of my partitions, PFS on one of them. It could be it, but it doesn't explain why it doesn't save while everything is on RAM.

Then it's not fs problem. For me it saves fine when i do it to RAM.
It might well be a bad crack. My patch has fully cracked exe, but maybe it wasn't applied properly and/or on the right version of the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muadib

What ROM and Workbench do you guys run on?
I have 3.9 installed on 3.1 ROMS.

I use 3.0 (the only safe way, haha

).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muadib

UPDATE: As I observed just now, the game does not crash. The music plays normally yet the only keys that are responsive are the main keyboard's PLUS and MINUS signs that increase and decrease the music's volume. Other than that, it just keeps showing the same: the 2 swords as the last picture I have attached...

The game doesn't crash ? What was that "HALT3" indicated by winuae then ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muadib

@Damien on the first playable screen press the second icon from the right, that looks like two crossed swords on a shield. Then select a character, and the SAVE and LOAD icons will appear.

Then select SAVE, then select the slot to save to, then enter the save game name, then it should save ok...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Do you need to be in a dungeon though as the "GameKeys.readme" suggests? Or am I reading this wrong?

You don't need to access a dungeon to save the game. You can try this right out from start (but oddly, the game will ask you to choose a character before as this is in the "camp" option).

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Tried doing just to be sure, but the same issue...

It might be something to do with the save dir. Maybe it doesn't work when empty, i'll do more tests.

DamienD · 23 September 2019, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by midwan

I also tested the version from thecompany.pl, which worked normally with saving the game! Not sure what's different there, as it's all packed in an EXE file (game, emulator and config).

I'm not saying this has anything to do with the issue; but "the company.pl" archive is using v1.8: https://thecompany.pl/game/Evil's+Doom+1.8

23 September 2019, 10:01	#31
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,322	Are you 100% sure the game's directory isn't write protected in some way ? Try doing this from your game dir : protect all #? +rwed Also make sure of the way it is launched (with a script in the game's dir itself) : Code: assign Evil: "" assign Saga: RealSave EVIL:prg/int.dat If everything else fails, try copying the game to RAM: (you seem to have more than enough ram to do that) and try to save from there. I tried it with my version and it works fine. If it doesn't work, there is something wrong with your machine. If it works, there is something wrong with your hd partition. Or so I think

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31 January 2017, 19:20	#21
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,322	Normally this game should run on stock A1200 so if it needs 32mb of fast there's something wrong with the package !

31 January 2017, 19:57	#23
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Just tested and it does indeed work with only 2MB Chip

01 February 2017, 16:37	#24
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I've just updated the .HDF to display the "EvilsDoomFAQ.txt" file via PPMore before starting the game

02 March 2017, 12:49	#25
apex Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Amigaplanet Posts: 645	Is the 1.9 working? I cannot save, Amiga freeze.

21 September 2019, 11:32	#27
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	Which version of game You play? Do You have RealSave/Save/ directory? Can You do screenshot or photo (if on real hardware)?

22 September 2019, 16:06	#29
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	Try another version, e.g. from Grandis (EAB server). Here's v1.9 with Meynaf patch.

23 September 2019, 11:01	#32
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	What FS is on partition You run Evil's Doom? If PFS try some other filesystem, because PFS could be wrong handled by some games.

23 September 2019, 20:28	#35
Muadib Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Posts: 285	@Damien on the first playable screen press the second icon from the right, that looks like two crossed swords on a shield. Then select a character, and the SAVE and LOAD icons will appear.

23 September 2019, 20:28	#36
midwan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 114	I also have the same exact problem when trying to save the game, as described by Muadib. I tested it in WinUAE 4.2.1, with a cloned config of my real A4000D (040, Kick 3.1.4, vanilla 3.1.4 Workbench installation). I can post the config file also if it helps. I extracted the latest 1.9 version to a directory, and used that as a virtual 2nd drive in WinUAE (the 1st drive has the 3.1.4 system it boots from). The directory is of course, read/write. I could get up to the point of saving the game, but right after typing the Save game title and hitting enter, the screen fades to black but doesn't come back afterwards (only the two swords remain visible, as in the screenshot above). I also tested the version from thecompany.pl, which worked normally with saving the game! Not sure what's different there, as it's all packed in an EXE file (game, emulator and config). I couldn't test it on my real 060 A4000, as it hung much earlier than that. Right after the title screen, I get a black screen and it doesn't continue any further.

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