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Old 14 May 2021, 19:57   #41
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By the way, I'm still making my way through the FAQ, but can I just say I'm immensely impressed by how much work went into this? I just think it's incredible.
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:01   #42
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There's some overlap and you might find that the shell commands in AmigaOS 3.2 are not functionally identical to the AmigaOS 4.x commands in terms of features. They still have some catching up to do. Put another way, there's more AmigaOS for the 68k platform to "adopt" from AmigaOS 4.x than the other way round.



What first comes to my mind is that AmigaOS 3.2 still has to carry HDToolbox and its ugly sidekick ProdPrep, whereas the partitioning software in AmigaOS 3.9 is much more mature and functional. As before, we did our best under difficult circumstances, but the whole HDToolbox situation is both supremely dissatisfying and hard to redress
Thanks for the quick answer. So it sounds like there's a few superficial things in both cases, but nothing that for example would stop an application developer targeting both without needing OS4 specific features, or for a user of 3.2 to use the 3.9 disk tools if they really needed to.

Also part of my question is, is it reasonable to consider OS4 a superset of OS3.2 except where OS4 has deliberately deprecated OS3 bits it doesn't need. As opposed to OS3.2 having anything that's actually newer and more functional than the equivalent OS4 piece because it's more recently developed, even if it's version number is 'older'

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Old 14 May 2021, 20:24   #43
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Great news! But i am not finding any dealer selling it yet..
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:28   #44
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Great news! But i am not finding any dealer selling it yet..
I know for a fact that some CDs have already been shipped.
When Will they get them and sell it? It is up to them.
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:32   #45
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Great news! But i am not finding any dealer selling it yet..
Same, I just sent an enquiry to Amiga on the Lake...as I'm sure several US based folks will.
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:41   #46
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by the way, i'm still making my way through the faq, but can i just say i'm immensely impressed by how much work went into this? I just think it's incredible.
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:44   #47
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is a TCP/IP stack included?
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:51   #48
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Will the CD be sold as a digital image as well, directly from Hyperion?
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is a TCP/IP stack included?
Buy Roadshow directly, that way Olaf gets the money not Hyperion.
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:54   #50
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Any digital download anywhere for me to buy? Cant find anything so far.
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Old 14 May 2021, 20:59   #51
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I believe Hyperion decided to give resellers some time to sell physical CD's first.

Later, digital versions will arrive, but those will be model based, unlike the CD which has them all + some additional extras.
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Old 14 May 2021, 21:01   #52
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Congratulations. Job well done.

I wonder if they changed anything in the new 47.1 CDTV extended ROM vs 2.30 to fix the 24-bit DMA issues?
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I'm ready to buy it but can't find it at any dealer. Do I have to wait for the punch card edition?
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Congratulations. Job well done.

I wonder if they changed anything in the CDTV extended ROM to fix the 24-bit DMA issues?
No change regarding the DMA issue.

Please read section 14 of the FAQ (CDTV & CD32) and let me know if you have doubts.
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Old 14 May 2021, 21:05   #55
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https://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/
AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available

Too soon, redirects to a local dealer.

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I'm ready to buy it but can't find it at any dealer. Do I have to wait for the punch card edition?
There was a dealer already offering it in the UK, but as soon as the word spread, their website went down due to excessive traffic.

You should better buy the Video Toaster Edition.
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Congratulations. Job well done.

I wonder if they changed anything in the new 47.1 CDTV extended ROM vs 2.30 to fix the 24-bit DMA issues?
Looks like cdtv.device and cdfs.library are the same as v2.30. Bummer
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Thanks for the quick answer. So it sounds like there's a few superficial things in both cases, but nothing that for example would stop an application developer targeting both without needing OS4 specific features, or for a user of 3.2 to use the 3.9 disk tools if they really needed to.
We're mostly following what star we can harness right now AmigaOS 3.2 is not (yet) the kind of long term development project which ended up reworking several complete parts of the operating system with each release. As you may recall, 3.1.4 and then 3.1.4.1 reworked the fundamentals, the operating system mostly, with the application software and shell commands receiving their due, but they were not the prime focus. Restarting development work on the 3.1 operating system was.

Here's hoping we'll be able to get more of the reworking done (if they let us) in the future, reworking and building up what so far hasn't been taken care of yet.

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Also part of my question is, is it reasonable to consider OS4 a superset of OS3.2 except where OS4 has deliberately deprecated OS3 bits it doesn't need. As opposed to OS3.2 having anything that's actually newer and more functional than the equivalent OS4 piece because it's more recently developed, even if it's version number is 'older'
AmigaOS 4 is technologically still years ahead of what AmigaOS 3.2 can deliver given the time and work went spent on it. It's not a superset. It's more like AmigaOS 4 and AmigaOS 3.2 are two sets with a large intersection. Right now, we're trying to address the challenges our own peculiar project: it's a legacy operating system with a big "L" and dependencies which go back some 36+ years. AmigaOS 4 had its own challenges of this kind, but it also had to find solutions for challenges unique to its architecture. It can be liberating to be able to break new ground and let the legacy be legacy
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Customers from Finland and Sweden interested in AmigaOS 3.2 should have a look at https://www.arosretrofit.se/product.html/amigaos-32
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