Wiz (Amiga AGA) - Page 22

DamienD · 23 November 2020, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by manossg

Any option for level skip without invincibility and infinite lives/energy/spells?

Yeah that's my one, major gripe with the inbuilt cheat: invincibility

It spoils a game and is no fun. The cheat would have been a lot better with everything but invincibility

Adrian Cummings · 23 November 2020, 11:23

The cheat is for level testing and nothing more sorry guys.

manossg · 23 November 2020, 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Yeah that's my one, major gripe with the inbuilt cheat: invincibility

It spoils a game and is no fun. The cheat would have been a lot better with everything but invincibility

Completely agree, especially since I want to be able to practice the later levels, so what is the point of practicing if you cannot die or you cannot manage your energy/spells?

I hope the WHDLoad treatment takes care of this!

manossg · 23 November 2020, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Cummings

The cheat is for level testing and nothing more sorry guys.

No worries, Adrian, thanks for the great game, looking forward to Cyberpunks 2!

Adrian Cummings · 23 November 2020, 11:25

@manossg Hmmmm I don't agree - just play the game man

Adrian Cummings · 23 November 2020, 11:27

I hope CyberPunks will be good - I have a long development road to walk with it first.

It will be a little darker than the first and the bobblehead baby face players are gone for good.

Adrian Cummings · 23 November 2020, 11:29

Catch you all later I'm off until those Wiz big glossy boxes arrive

lilalurl · 24 November 2020, 18:31

Cheats added to the HOL entry, thank you DamienD.

Lizart · 24 November 2020, 20:09

Has anybody solved the HD Problem with WIZ? I bought WIZ two weeks ago and i can not play it on my real Amigas. I only have the USB Stick with the ADFs, so i can use only WINUAE for it what is really annoying if you got 2 meters away the real thing... it would be great if i could copy it to my CF and play it in my CD32 or A4000. I'm sure i'm not alone with this problem...

@Adrian thanks for keeping amiga with new software alive <3

lilwshu · 24 November 2020, 22:18

I copied the ADFs over to my A1200 and wrote them to floppy disks, which will do until a WHDload installer has been made.

Adrian Cummings · 25 November 2020, 09:35

For those who want to 'practice cheat' and not use the built in 'level test' cheat there is always this that I totally forgot about TBH...

http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=99129

Adrian Cummings · 25 November 2020, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizart

Has anybody solved the HD Problem with WIZ? I bought WIZ two weeks ago and i can not play it on my real Amigas. I only have the USB Stick with the ADFs, so i can use only WINUAE for it what is really annoying if you got 2 meters away the real thing... it would be great if i could copy it to my CF and play it in my CD32 or A4000. I'm sure i'm not alone with this problem...

@Adrian thanks for keeping amiga with new software alive <3

Long winded coffee hyper driven answer to your question and more

Firstly thank you I try my very best but sometimes it is sadly not enough.

All I can add is that it is installed on my personal stock A1200 (020) with CF Card as HD and even loads from Workbench fine (as do all my other games).

I can only imagine that some people are having trouble running the game from their HD's because the low level disk system (RNC dosio) hates either their IDE HD or CF Card hardware or FileSystem on it or even possibly a mix of both? I just don't know and probably never will given there are so many variants of Amiga hardware out there now.

The reason I use RNC dosio is because the game is low level and takes over the entire machine. Years ago this was a cool thing to do when writing a game of course, but now 25+ years on everybody has various Franken'Amiga's with many hardware variants. This is why I only code for stock A1200 now and basic 2Mb Chip RAM. I only write games though not disk sub systems in asm. I'm an not clever enougth to be able to do that you understand. Least my game code works on those damn new fangled Vampires too tho so not all bad eh?

We supply the games as ADF's because the Physical game boxes we use actually hold 2 floppy disks. We even put the glossy labels in the box so you can now make your own disks from the USB ADF files. That is aimed at collectors mainly. Giving the option to install to HD is an optional bonus but we also state that it may or may not work in the docs. We give those docs away with the FREE demo also so we're trying to be as upfront as possible with everything for everyone.

As it stands here after extensive testing of Wiz using RNC dosio...

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Real Amiga A1200 (020):
Floppy = Good
HD Install = Good for many but NOT all drive types encountered.
CF Install = Good for many but NOT all drive types encountered.

Emulated 'WinUAE' Amiga A1200 (020):
ADF's (use floppy turbo mode for near HD speed) = Good
HD Install = Fail (not currently working)

Real CD32 (020):
CD32 .ISO = Good when CD launched from cold boot.

Emulated 'WinUAE' CD32 (020):
CD32 .ISO = Good when launched form CD32 Quickstart tab.

Frame rate drops:
030 upwards to 060 = Good but some frame drops due to 'blitter waits' as expected. Worst reported cases so far were machines with 040 acceleration.

---

I hope that helps some anyway, but some of this is impossible for me to fix or further fault find because RNC dosio is a closed lump of code.

I can only suggest that those who are not wanting to play from floppy that have HD install issue perhaps await the WHDLoad'ed version of Wiz. I have no idea when that will be as it's nothing to do with me of course.

Wiz is NOT a system friendly game. It will take over your system, relocate itself, trash the Amiga OS and eat all your 2Mb chipmem for breakfast using a custom disk loader (not written by me) Almost all my previous games and probably 100's of others in the past will do exactly the same.

The poor blitter in the Amiga is near useless when coding a 50fps AGA game.

CyberPunks 2 AGA will use the same disk system and boot code so you might as well grit your teeth now LOL

AMIGAAAAA!

Adrian Cummings · 25 November 2020, 10:52

Forgot to add...

Wiz_ExhibitA: Wiz installed and running from developers A1200 (020) HD (actually CF Card) and associated SysInfo pages.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s5vszrm6wd...ibitA.zip?dl=0

Asman · 25 November 2020, 11:16

Just for information:

I am working on WHDLoad slave for this game.

Adrian Cummings · 25 November 2020, 11:19

[QUOTE=Asman;1442883]Just for information:

I am working on WHDLoad slave for this game.[/QUO^TE]

^There you go people^

viddi · 25 November 2020, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asman

Just for information:

I am working on WHDLoad slave for this game.

Cool!
Please check out Wiz´walking animation, too.

There is a flickering hand in the middle of his beard.
I guess it´s an anim frame that shouldn´t be there and it kinda ruins the otherwise brilliant art and animation.

Thanks.

DamienD · 25 November 2020, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Cummings

For those who want to 'practice cheat' and not use the built in 'level test' cheat there is always this that I totally forgot about TBH...

http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=99129

Best to link to the source

https://flashtro.com/flashtro-wiz-aga/

Adrian Cummings · 25 November 2020, 14:19

OK thanks I thought that was, as I was sent the link to it LOL :P

The guy who sent me a PM about game ideas or something? - sorry I fat fingered it and deleted it by mistake. Thanks for asking tho but I only work on my own stuff these days when I can be arsed anyway.

Cheers,

Adrian.

apex · 25 November 2020, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Cummings

@DamienD For the record, RNC dosio code works with many real IDE drives (not SCSI) and real CF Cards but not emulated HD currently (if you recall my other post about cd0: CD32 problems I thought I had but didn't) I was actually half right. RNC dosio loader used to work in WinUAE with emulated HD, but many years on it seems to not like an emulated HD. Emulated Floppy df0: of course works with dosio as does CD32 cd0: I found but not hd'anything': when emulated no.

Following your guide it is not running from a CF card in a real A1200/060.
I put it on dh0:Wiz, partition is within the 4GB border, but filesystem is the Smartfilesystem. May I can do the same test under FFS filesystem.

From disk it is running fine.

I can wait for the WHDLoad installer.

apex · 25 November 2020, 20:37

If someone is using the standard FastFileSystem, setting a softlink could also work.
Sadly not supported by SmartFileSystem.

23 November 2020, 11:25	#425
Adrian Cummings Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 806	@manossg Hmmmm I don't agree - just play the game man Last edited by Adrian Cummings; 25 November 2020 at 10:23.

25 November 2020, 09:35	#431
Adrian Cummings Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 806	For those who want to 'practice cheat' and not use the built in 'level test' cheat there is always this that I totally forgot about TBH... http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=99129 Last edited by Adrian Cummings; 25 November 2020 at 10:06.

25 November 2020, 10:52	#433
Adrian Cummings Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 806	Forgot to add... Wiz_ExhibitA: Wiz installed and running from developers A1200 (020) HD (actually CF Card) and associated SysInfo pages. https://www.dropbox.com/s/s5vszrm6wd...ibitA.zip?dl=0 Last edited by Adrian Cummings; 25 November 2020 at 11:10.

25 November 2020, 14:19	#438
Adrian Cummings Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 806	OK thanks I thought that was, as I was sent the link to it LOL :P The guy who sent me a PM about game ideas or something? - sorry I fat fingered it and deleted it by mistake. Thanks for asking tho but I only work on my own stuff these days when I can be arsed anyway. Cheers, Adrian. Last edited by Adrian Cummings; 26 November 2020 at 10:22.

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Adrian Cummings Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 806	The cheat is for level testing and nothing more sorry guys.

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lilwshu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: UK Posts: 243	I copied the ADFs over to my A1200 and wrote them to floppy disks, which will do until a WHDload installer has been made.

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