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Dr. Dude · 22 January 2004, 20:02

Hey Dude's
I have been *trying* to get a conection from my pc to my lovely Amiga 1200.
I *have* it running.......for 2 weeks. Then the old pc has givven up.:eek
As i needed win 98 to make a conection, i can use my (new) pc whit Win xp on it. How i twist or turn it, it won't make a conection.

So

. How i make a conection whit Win Xp ???
Thats one prob.

Now the other.
I want (need) mayor help whit the "Startup-Sequence"
How i set commands, new paths, things to set ready, extra disks. Yust all thare is to know about it

(does this count as 2 posts?

)

Peanutuk · 22 January 2004, 21:04

Only the question "What is the meaning of live?" has a larger range of responses.

Be more detailed.

Dr. Dude · 22 January 2004, 21:50

DOH.
I need make a link between

WinXp

and my Amiga 1200.
You (or someone els) tell me what of prog and what of calble needed.

As for the "Startup-sequence" :theparano
I need (want) to know what the commands are.
like, how does is set the folder C: or S: or Libs:
How does he makes a RAM
How does he asign things
Put in extra things.

Dizzy · 22 January 2004, 22:01

Have you turned the firewall (XP's own) off.

whiteb · 23 January 2004, 09:20

Ok, I dont know what software you are using on the PC. But if it uses a DOS mode, and its talking parallel, XP doesnt allow DOS mode to access Parallel. Infact no matter what you do, XP will not allow DOS mode programs to access Parallel (even serial I think).

I recommend that you have a machine dedicated (windows 98) for talking to your A1200, and network that via ethernet to your XP machine.

Once your 98 machine talks to your A1200, software depending you might even be able to share your Miggy to the XP box as a shared drive.

whiteb · 23 January 2004, 09:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Dude
DOH.
I need make a link between WinXp and my Amiga 1200.
You (or someone els) tell me what of prog and what of calble needed.

As for the "Startup-sequence" :theparano
I need (want) to know what the commands are.
like, how does is set the folder C: or S: or Libs:
How does he makes a RAM
How does he asign things
Put in extra things.

Hmmmmmm trying to decipher what you typed.

you can tell startup sequence to tell the system where to look for programs.

PATH DH0: C: RAM:

will cause the system to check DH0: for a file, if it doesnt find it it will then look in C: then if not there it will look in RAM:

so in the startup sequence, after that command, you put EDIT as the command (not that you would, only as example)
it would search DH0: for EDIT, then C: and then RAM: - if it doesnt find them then, it will return file not found.

Quote:

How does he makes a ram

I dont get it, when Workbench loads, you AUTOMATICALLY get a RAM disk, this usually ALWAYS reports a disk full, but its dynamic and can expand to the limit of your memory.

Quote:

how does he asign things

Hmmmmm how do you assign things ?

"Assign test: dh0:test"

Assigns the device name Test: to the directory DH0:test
then you can call a filename with "Test:filename" that resides in that directory.
OR,

ASSIGN LIBS: dh0:some-obscure-directory

when a program calls "Libs:" for its library, the system calls "DH0:some-obscure-directory" for the directory.... its up to you to make sure the library is where you say it is, or the program will usually go spastic.
which workbench is likely to do if you set it to some obscure directory and it cant find its system libraries.

Sort of like assigning L: in workbench 1.3 somewhere else, and your Harddrive is formatted under fastfilesystem (fastfilesystem is the driver for the HDD, in 2.04+ this was moved to kickstart)..... oops.

Dr. Dude · 23 January 2004, 11:08

Erm....The Ram is always thare, but in the startup-sequence it is told to let him show on WB.
As for the Path, it first need to assign C: and more things to make a path to it. And if i tell DF0: and the disk is in DF1: (As my Ami does not have a HD, not yet anyway) IT go's mad.
I hold loads of CLI commands ( C: ) Thay dont fit all on 1 disk, so i have made 1 FULL! disk and name't C. It loads the disk, but now it also asks for more disks, like ENV and Libs

I only need that when i start a Progy, that it uses the C Disk.

I know, i know. I need a HD working.

As for the Conection PC-Amiga. You meen install win 98 and lose all things from Win xp, and then bring back win xp , AND ReInstall evrything :suspiciou :suspiciou :suspiciou
That will take age's. And somehow you always forget something when doing a Fresh install.

Now i am here. Can i Use a 2.5" HD from a laptop?

RetroMan · 23 January 2004, 12:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Dude
Can i Use a 2.5" HD from a laptop?

Yes

Bloodwych · 23 January 2004, 13:27

It sounds like you're trying to run a workbench without a startup sequence.

Same Doctor that requested Workbench 3.0 in the shoutbox?

Perhaps trying to get classicwb to run?

Dr. Dude · 23 January 2004, 13:33

Yup. But i got it now

:theparano Still i am disapointent about one of the Zips. NO INFO'S. well ok some DOTS

. I Want real good looking Info's (icons) Like on the Pic

Bloodwych · 23 January 2004, 13:40

I'm afraid there will be many more problems than just the dots, as you'll be missing many lines that call vital programs and allow the classicwb to run. It's not something that can be written by hand.

Google still works wonders (just checked), but our official stance on this board is that you must purchase a workbench disk from cloanto (or we get nasty threatening e-mails)

Bloodwych · 23 January 2004, 13:53

Ok, you have the disk. Those dots are because you're trying to setup the startup sequnce by hand, like I mentioned above.

Follow the install instructions!

Dr. Dude · 23 January 2004, 14:08

I did. i did. Place the Zip on your disk. run the ADF. Place in a WB 3.0 disk when he asks.

I got WB 3.1 Running great. See?

But as you can see, all basic.

This is what i got from getting it to work.
(((Don't mind the colours, as this is a jpg)))

All i need is the icon, i guess.
And how do you get that nise menu?
I do all THIS in WinUAE.

As for the Startup-sequence. i do that on a real amiga.

my main goal is: Get a Wb running as cool as the first pic on my real Amiga 1200. But want to make it perfect on WinUae.

Bloodwych · 23 January 2004, 14:23

These workbench packages are designed to install on winuae and real amigas without installing another workbench first! They install ONTO A FRESH CLEAN HDF OR HARD DRIVE PARTITION. NOT OVER THE TOP OF ANOTHER WORKBENCH.

Ok, dealing with installing it on WinUAE first.

From the instructions:

WinUAE install method using a HDF:
---------------------------------------------

1. Setup WinUAE with a configuration that at least matches the minimum specs outlined in the text file provided with this Workbench.

2. Add at least one HDF file to the harddrives tab and call it any name what you want. It will automatically be assigned as DH0:

3. Add a PC directory to the harddrives tab.

4. Place System.zip into the PC directory added in (3)

5. Boot from your Workbench 3.0 disk/ADF and format the Harddrive/HDF DH0: - Call it anything you wish. Copy System.zip from the PC directory onto the harddrive/HDF DH0:

6. Boot from the install disk/ADF provided and follow the on screen instructions.

If you're having problems following these instructions, perhaps you need to read some of Pauls how to files

All I can say is many people have installed these packages without trouble. I can appreciate it's more difficult for you when english isn't your first language.

At least you are getting that post count towards ten, not far to go now. As for file transfer, many people have discussed this before. Do a search.

Dr. Dude · 23 January 2004, 14:31

Ok now here is come's.....I DID.

I make a new HDF, place the zip on it. whit Wb 3.1 (DOpus)

Remove all the drives, place in the NEW hdf, and the disk.

Quote:

1. Setup WinUAE with a configuration that at least matches the minimum specs outlined in the text file provided with this Workbench.

Erm it is running at top.

Quote:

3. Add a PC directory to the harddrives tab.
4. Place System.zip into the PC directory added in (3)

I have made a Folder that WinUAE use's, (on the Wb 31 pic, the Folder MAP

Quote:

I can appreciate it's more difficult for you when english isn't your first lauguage.

Indeed, its dutch

Maybe i shut give it another try eh?

Bloodwych · 23 January 2004, 14:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Dude
Ok now here is come's.....I DID.
I make a new HDF, place the zip on it. whit Wb 3.1 (DOpus)

Remove all the drives, place in the NEW hdf, and the disk.

Ok, so you have a HDF file containing NOTHING but "system.zip".

Go to the hard drive tab, select this HDF and make sure under device it's listed as being DH0:

Place the ClassicWB_install.adf provided into DF0:, boot and follow the instructions, inserting WB3.0 disk when told to do so.

Then everything should work.

Dr. Dude · 23 January 2004, 15:53

Heyyyyy. i know a lot about WinUAE.

i probly did something wrong. (or i did download the wrong Zip.)

i download a other, this time for aga. Lets see i do the .... Copper_ADV_SP_V1 .

Bloodwych · 23 January 2004, 15:57

You've got the right zip.

The small one you're downloading now is an upgrade package - you need to install the one you've already got FIRST.

Bloodwych · 23 January 2004, 16:17

By the way have you tried AIAB (link)

Not very useful for real Amigas but in WinUAE it's great.

It also has a Dutch language pack.

Dr. Dude · 23 January 2004, 16:41

When i am done whit my Amiga 1200. It will have loads of power.

:eek A dutch Dutch language pack ?!
Arg i hate those. I can install win xp on dutch, but i have it on english

22 January 2004, 20:02	#1
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	2 Probs Hey Dude's I have been trying to get a conection from my pc to my lovely Amiga 1200. I have it running.......for 2 weeks. Then the old pc has givven up.:eek As i needed win 98 to make a conection, i can use my (new) pc whit Win xp on it. How i twist or turn it, it won't make a conection. So . How i make a conection whit Win Xp ??? Thats one prob. Now the other. I want (need) mayor help whit the "Startup-Sequence" How i set commands, new paths, things to set ready, extra disks. Yust all thare is to know about it (does this count as 2 posts? )

23 January 2004, 14:23	#14
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	These workbench packages are designed to install on winuae and real amigas without installing another workbench first! They install ONTO A FRESH CLEAN HDF OR HARD DRIVE PARTITION. NOT OVER THE TOP OF ANOTHER WORKBENCH. Ok, dealing with installing it on WinUAE first. From the instructions: WinUAE install method using a HDF: --------------------------------------------- 1. Setup WinUAE with a configuration that at least matches the minimum specs outlined in the text file provided with this Workbench. 2. Add at least one HDF file to the harddrives tab and call it any name what you want. It will automatically be assigned as DH0: 3. Add a PC directory to the harddrives tab. 4. Place System.zip into the PC directory added in (3) 5. Boot from your Workbench 3.0 disk/ADF and format the Harddrive/HDF DH0: - Call it anything you wish. Copy System.zip from the PC directory onto the harddrive/HDF DH0: 6. Boot from the install disk/ADF provided and follow the on screen instructions. If you're having problems following these instructions, perhaps you need to read some of Pauls how to files All I can say is many people have installed these packages without trouble. I can appreciate it's more difficult for you when english isn't your first language. At least you are getting that post count towards ten, not far to go now. As for file transfer, many people have discussed this before. Do a search. Last edited by Bloodwych; 23 January 2004 at 14:35.

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22 January 2004, 21:04	#2
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	Only the question "What is the meaning of live?" has a larger range of responses. Be more detailed.

22 January 2004, 21:50	#3
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	DOH. I need make a link between WinXp and my Amiga 1200. You (or someone els) tell me what of prog and what of calble needed. As for the "Startup-sequence" :theparano I need (want) to know what the commands are. like, how does is set the folder C: or S: or Libs: How does he makes a RAM How does he asign things Put in extra things.

22 January 2004, 22:01	#4
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Have you turned the firewall (XP's own) off.

23 January 2004, 09:20	#5
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	Ok, I dont know what software you are using on the PC. But if it uses a DOS mode, and its talking parallel, XP doesnt allow DOS mode to access Parallel. Infact no matter what you do, XP will not allow DOS mode programs to access Parallel (even serial I think). I recommend that you have a machine dedicated (windows 98) for talking to your A1200, and network that via ethernet to your XP machine. Once your 98 machine talks to your A1200, software depending you might even be able to share your Miggy to the XP box as a shared drive.

23 January 2004, 11:08	#7
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	Erm....The Ram is always thare, but in the startup-sequence it is told to let him show on WB. As for the Path, it first need to assign C: and more things to make a path to it. And if i tell DF0: and the disk is in DF1: (As my Ami does not have a HD, not yet anyway) IT go's mad. I hold loads of CLI commands ( C: ) Thay dont fit all on 1 disk, so i have made 1 FULL! disk and name't C. It loads the disk, but now it also asks for more disks, like ENV and Libs I only need that when i start a Progy, that it uses the C Disk. I know, i know. I need a HD working. As for the Conection PC-Amiga. You meen install win 98 and lose all things from Win xp, and then bring back win xp , AND ReInstall evrything :suspiciou :suspiciou :suspiciou That will take age's. And somehow you always forget something when doing a Fresh install. Now i am here. Can i Use a 2.5" HD from a laptop?

23 January 2004, 13:27	#9
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	It sounds like you're trying to run a workbench without a startup sequence. Same Doctor that requested Workbench 3.0 in the shoutbox? Perhaps trying to get classicwb to run?

23 January 2004, 13:33	#10
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	Yup. But i got it now :theparano Still i am disapointent about one of the Zips. NO INFO'S. well ok some DOTS . I Want real good looking Info's (icons) Like on the Pic

23 January 2004, 13:40	#11
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	I'm afraid there will be many more problems than just the dots, as you'll be missing many lines that call vital programs and allow the classicwb to run. It's not something that can be written by hand. Google still works wonders (just checked), but our official stance on this board is that you must purchase a workbench disk from cloanto (or we get nasty threatening e-mails)

23 January 2004, 13:53	#12
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Ok, you have the disk. Those dots are because you're trying to setup the startup sequnce by hand, like I mentioned above. Follow the install instructions!

23 January 2004, 14:08	#13
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	I did. i did. Place the Zip on your disk. run the ADF. Place in a WB 3.0 disk when he asks. I got WB 3.1 Running great. See? But as you can see, all basic. This is what i got from getting it to work. (((Don't mind the colours, as this is a jpg))) All i need is the icon, i guess. And how do you get that nise menu? I do all THIS in WinUAE. As for the Startup-sequence. i do that on a real amiga. my main goal is: Get a Wb running as cool as the first pic on my real Amiga 1200. But want to make it perfect on WinUae.

23 January 2004, 15:53	#17
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	Heyyyyy. i know a lot about WinUAE. i probly did something wrong. (or i did download the wrong Zip.) i download a other, this time for aga. Lets see i do the .... Copper_ADV_SP_V1 .

23 January 2004, 15:57	#18
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	You've got the right zip. The small one you're downloading now is an upgrade package - you need to install the one you've already got FIRST.

23 January 2004, 16:17	#19
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	By the way have you tried AIAB (link) Not very useful for real Amigas but in WinUAE it's great. It also has a Dutch language pack.

23 January 2004, 16:41	#20
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	When i am done whit my Amiga 1200. It will have loads of power. :eek A dutch Dutch language pack ?! Arg i hate those. I can install win xp on dutch, but i have it on english

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