08 September 2013, 12:52 | #1 |
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FPGA Arcade , MIST or Turbo Chameleon 64 ?
I am looking for an fpga board to replace my broken A 1200. My Goal ist to put the board into the original Amiga case and use Keyrah or anything similar. I will want this especially to play games via WHDload but also might be interested to do some ractracing. Any suggestions what would be the best choice ? FPGA Arcade ? MIST ? Turbo chameleon with minimig core ? As a bonus it might be nice to also emulate other classics like C64, spectrum or ATARI ST (I know....).
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08 September 2013, 13:39 | #2 |
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FPGA Arcade seems to be the most advanced.
Still, I would like a FPGA compatible which has a floppy connector. As far as I know there isn't one. |
08 September 2013, 16:55 | #3 |
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The FPGA Arcade specs are up on the new webpage, and it looks to be the best by far:
http://fpgaarcade.com/ |
08 September 2013, 17:36 | #4 |
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Cores
Yes, it Looks very promising, but am I right: so far there is only the Amiga core and even this not is donwloadable for the public ?
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A nice comparison between MIST and FPGA ARCADE was done some days ago by MikeJ. I'm quoting a post of his from FPGA Arcade forums:
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Personally, I think both boards are great, and the authors deserve praise for their work.
To sum up all the technical differences mentioned, the Replay board has more memory (and probably memory bandwidth), more pins (which allows for the daughterboard, definitely a nice addition), and potentially higher quality sound & video output. It also has yaqube working on the minimig code The Mist board is cheaper, has USB keyboard/mouse, and (mostly) complete Atari ST and Amiga cores, plus some ports from Pace, with other cores in the works (C64). It is also available *now*. I am definitely pleased with it (thanks to Till for sending me one!). I would like to address some of the differences mentioned by MikeJ: Quote:
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Both boards are great choices to buy, I guess it depends on what you want to do with them. If the original minimig was a A500 (or A600) recreation, then the Mist is (or, will be) like a slightly expanded, slightly faster A1200. The Replayboard with the 060 daughterboard is more like a very fast A4000. |
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practcal experiences ?
Many thanks for the Information and comparisons so far. Are there ones of you out there with practical experiences with one or more of the fpgas ? Looking forward to hear more.
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10 September 2013, 20:00 | #8 |
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I have both a Chameleon and a MIST. For Amiga use there's not a great deal to choose between them - so it comes down to whether you'd rather have a C64 core, use PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse and the ability to connect to a real C64 (Chameleon), or an Atari ST core and USB keyboard and mouse (MIST).
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Compatibility
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12 September 2013, 18:08 | #10 |
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Generally pretty good. There are a few games which work on the "real" Minimig but not on the Chameleon / MIST ports - Startdust being one of them, but I know how to fix that, just a question of having time. It's not perfect, of course, but on the whole I haven't found many games that flat out refuse to work. WHDLoad works a treat, too.
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15 September 2013, 23:41 | #11 |
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i also want a floppy connector
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18 September 2013, 18:55 | #12 |
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floppy connector
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18 September 2013, 20:22 | #13 |
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The Suska III-C (the most expensive of all the FPGA boards at €620) includes a floppy disk connector. The open source Suska HDL includes a working re-creation of a WD1772 chip (used in various designs, not just Atari ST).
http://experiment-s.de/en/boards/suska-iii-c/ I commend Wolfgang's attention to detail but I imagine it is unlikely for many retro-computer FPGA developers would go to the effort of implementing a physically functional floppy disk drive controller AND a virtual one too. (Remember, exact timing can be very important in this component to allow copy protected disks to work etc.) If you want the data off physical floppy disks, there is always the Kryoflux. |
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