The Settlers II - Page 2

fitzsteve · 21 November 2010, 22:51

Thanks Allen & Cammy

Downloading now

fitzsteve · 21 November 2010, 23:49

Hey Cammy, great work on this setup - I wish I'd found this sooner, its awesome.

Runs great up my A1200 (060/PPC/Mediator/Voodoo) right up to 15bit 800x600, it even runs at 24bit albiet slowly.

Best option I found was 800x600 256col and its perfect, this is through the Voodoo with P96 driver.

Took a while to work out the Memory settings and such, is there a limit? I have 256mb Ram and used 8 and 16mb settings without issue.

I took some pics of it in action

Fabie · 22 November 2010, 00:41

here is a good website with tons of mac games that can work on shapeshifter or fusion

most of them will work...read mac requirements

www.macintoshgarden.org

I recommend and I tested

flasback
out of this word
alone in the dark 1 & 2
prince of persia
A10-attack
Abuse
doom
wolfstein

fitzsteve · 22 November 2010, 01:14

Awesome stuff Fabie.

I have a problem though, not sure if anyone can help?

I ran Quick Time player and it crashed the emulation, now when you start Shapershifter I get a macOS message that it was not shut down properly and then it crashes again

Any way to reset the system so it thinks its a fresh boot?

Damn noobs - sorry

lambrettadave · 22 November 2010, 03:34

@ steve you could try reading CU Amiga april 98 there maybe someting in there to help you

Dave

Fabie · 22 November 2010, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Awesome stuff Fabie.

I have a problem though, not sure if anyone can help?

I ran Quick Time player and it crashed the emulation, now when you start Shapershifter I get a macOS message that it was not shut down properly and then it crashes again

Any way to reset the system so it thinks its a fresh boot?

Damn noobs - sorry

get a fresh working hardfile...because try to fix macos' problems is very hard
I recommend a mac os 8.0 hardifile if you can find it

fitzsteve · 22 November 2010, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabie

get a fresh working hardfile...because try to fix macos' problems is very hard
I recommend a mac os 8.0 hardifile if you can find it

Ahh, didn't think just to replace the hardfile doh!

Cheers, will look into MacOS 8, don't want to take this too far off topic, if I get into it I'll start a topic

Cheers again peeps, fun times will be had today

skan · 22 November 2010, 11:25

There's an open-source remake project of Settlers 2:

http://www.siedler25.org/ (German only)

Same old story: we just need some volunteers!!!

Fabie · 22 November 2010, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Ahh, didn't think just to replace the hardfile doh!

Cheers, will look into MacOS 8, don't want to take this too far off topic, if I get into it I'll start a topic

Cheers again peeps, fun times will be had today

ok...on topic
here is settlers 2 mac version....should works on fusion or shapeshifter
I have not tryed it...please check if works and post later

http://macintoshgarden.org/games/the...veni-vidi-vici

Cammy · 22 November 2010, 11:39

Hi fitzsteve. If you have a problem with something in MacOS you can hold down shift when you boot up and it will disable extensions and go straight to the OS. From there you can deselect the extension that's causing a problem, like Quicktime, from the Extensions Manager in the Control Panel.

I have 32MB in my A1200 so I use 16MB for MacOS and the rest for AmigaOS, but if you have 256MB it wouldn't hurt to give 64MB or 128MB to the Mac.

In any case, keep an unaltered backup of that MacOS7.6.1 hardfile I made, it's a fully updated installation of the OS without anything else added or changed, so if anything goes wrong you can always just copy it over and start again.

Fabie · 22 November 2010, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammy

Hi fitzsteve. If you have a problem with something in MacOS you can hold down shift when you boot up and it will disable extensions and go straight to the OS. From there you can deselect the extension that's causing a problem, like Quicktime, from the Extensions Manager in the Control Panel.

I have 32MB in my A1200 so I use 16MB for MacOS and the rest for AmigaOS, but if you have 256MB it wouldn't hurt to give 64MB or 128MB to the Mac.

In any case, keep an unaltered backup of that MacOS7.6.1 hardfile I made, it's a fully updated installation of the OS without anything else added or changed, so if anything goes wrong you can always just copy it over and start again.

I remember that you are the expert on doom...can you test please mac-doom on your A1200 on shapeshifter and fusion and compare fps with adoom and doomattack
thanks.....
maybe mac.doom is faster than the amiga version

fitzsteve · 22 November 2010, 11:57

Thanks Cammy, I'll keep that backup as suggested and thanks for the other tips.

I'm also going to have a try with this on my simple A1200 (Blizzard 1230)

Anyway thanks again for the pre installed pack, I never did get this working before

Also just played some Wolfenstein 3D, runs nice at 512x384

Steve.

deicidal · 22 November 2010, 12:45

Out of interest how does the mac version compare to the PC one?

fitzsteve · 22 November 2010, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by deicidal

Out of interest how does the mac version compare to the PC one?

Oh, man I've not played the Dos version in years - but this seems better - that could just be nostagia taking over though. I think I have the shareware version on my Duke3D CDROM somewhere maybe that works with XP - I might check that later.

lambrettadave · 22 November 2010, 17:34

loads of games there fabie well done thanks

Dave

Cammy · 25 November 2010, 16:25

Unfortunately that Settlers II archive is the same as the one I've tried before, which doesn't work. SimTown didn't work either, and I have no way to burn CDs on my Amiga so I can't get Warcraft at all. Does anyone have working versions of these games running in Shapeshifter?

As for DOOM, since the Mac version runs in 640x480 and the Amiga version runs in any resolution, including 320x200, the Mac version is just too slow to play on my Amiga. I might have a go at running the DOOM Benchmark test but I'd have to run the Amiga version in the same resolution to make an even comparison, but I really don't have the time for it right now.

fitzsteve · 25 November 2010, 16:31

Hi Cammy,

I wanted to try some of these games but I couldn't add another drive or directory for the files so gave up.

If there is an ISO I can burn to CD I can try that in my A1200T as it is has DVDRW in it?

I wanted to try some of the 68k(060) games off that site like Duke Nukem 3D, but I couldn't figure out how to access the files

I have all the .sit files and stuff on my 'Work' partition but stopped there, I only didn't post becuase I didn't want to take this thread too far off topic and plus I've been doing other things...

If you can point me in the direction of an ISO for the Settlers II I can try installing that and see if it works. Also can I make the HDF bigger?

Steve.

Retro1234 · 25 November 2010, 17:17

The games probably loose all there Data Forks - If you have Windows use HFVExlorer to copy the files to your Virtual Mac HD - CDs you can install under WinUae/ShafeShifter UaeScsi.device

Mad-Matt · 25 November 2010, 17:50

if youre using AmigaOS, you can use the mac handler included in shapeshifter to mount the MacHD. then you can easily copy over the .sit files. Then in mac os drop the .sit files onto StuffIt Expander to extract them. I tested the Settlers II download listed by Fabie and it does work fine.

Retro1234 · 25 November 2010, 17:50

Just incase you dont have windows heres Settlers II installed on Mac HD for Shapeshofter/Basilisk
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3KJEKUU4

There might be a way to do it with CrossMac...... but this was easy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

if youre using AmigaOS, you can use the mac handler included in shapeshifter to mount the MacHD. then you can easily copy over the .sit files. Then in mac os drop the .sit files onto StuffIt Expander to extract them. I tested the Settlers II download listed by Fabie and it does work fine.

Ive always had problems with Sit files doing this but might be because of old version of Stuff It - Ill give it ago again

21 November 2010, 23:49	#22
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Hey Cammy, great work on this setup - I wish I'd found this sooner, its awesome. Runs great up my A1200 (060/PPC/Mediator/Voodoo) right up to 15bit 800x600, it even runs at 24bit albiet slowly. Best option I found was 800x600 256col and its perfect, this is through the Voodoo with P96 driver. Took a while to work out the Memory settings and such, is there a limit? I have 256mb Ram and used 8 and 16mb settings without issue. I took some pics of it in action Attached Thumbnails

25 November 2010, 17:17	#38
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	The games probably loose all there Data Forks - If you have Windows use HFVExlorer to copy the files to your Virtual Mac HD - CDs you can install under WinUae/ShafeShifter UaeScsi.device Last edited by Retro1234; 25 November 2010 at 17:51.

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21 November 2010, 22:51	#21
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Thanks Allen & Cammy Downloading now

22 November 2010, 00:41	#23
Fabie Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: France Posts: 478	here is a good website with tons of mac games that can work on shapeshifter or fusion most of them will work...read mac requirements www.macintoshgarden.org I recommend and I tested flasback out of this word alone in the dark 1 & 2 prince of persia A10-attack Abuse doom wolfstein

22 November 2010, 01:14	#24
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Awesome stuff Fabie. I have a problem though, not sure if anyone can help? I ran Quick Time player and it crashed the emulation, now when you start Shapershifter I get a macOS message that it was not shut down properly and then it crashes again Any way to reset the system so it thinks its a fresh boot? Damn noobs - sorry

22 November 2010, 03:34	#25
lambrettadave Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: south shields Posts: 140	@ steve you could try reading CU Amiga april 98 there maybe someting in there to help you Dave

22 November 2010, 11:25	#28
skan Dream Merchant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dreamlands Posts: 530	There's an open-source remake project of Settlers 2: http://www.siedler25.org/ (German only) Same old story: we just need some volunteers!!!

22 November 2010, 11:39	#30
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,189	Hi fitzsteve. If you have a problem with something in MacOS you can hold down shift when you boot up and it will disable extensions and go straight to the OS. From there you can deselect the extension that's causing a problem, like Quicktime, from the Extensions Manager in the Control Panel. I have 32MB in my A1200 so I use 16MB for MacOS and the rest for AmigaOS, but if you have 256MB it wouldn't hurt to give 64MB or 128MB to the Mac. In any case, keep an unaltered backup of that MacOS7.6.1 hardfile I made, it's a fully updated installation of the OS without anything else added or changed, so if anything goes wrong you can always just copy it over and start again.

22 November 2010, 11:57	#32
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Thanks Cammy, I'll keep that backup as suggested and thanks for the other tips. I'm also going to have a try with this on my simple A1200 (Blizzard 1230) Anyway thanks again for the pre installed pack, I never did get this working before Also just played some Wolfenstein 3D, runs nice at 512x384 Steve.

22 November 2010, 12:45	#33
deicidal Registered Insane Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ununited Kingdom Posts: 792	Out of interest how does the mac version compare to the PC one?

22 November 2010, 17:34	#35
lambrettadave Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: south shields Posts: 140	loads of games there fabie well done thanks Dave

25 November 2010, 16:25	#36
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,189	Unfortunately that Settlers II archive is the same as the one I've tried before, which doesn't work. SimTown didn't work either, and I have no way to burn CDs on my Amiga so I can't get Warcraft at all. Does anyone have working versions of these games running in Shapeshifter? As for DOOM, since the Mac version runs in 640x480 and the Amiga version runs in any resolution, including 320x200, the Mac version is just too slow to play on my Amiga. I might have a go at running the DOOM Benchmark test but I'd have to run the Amiga version in the same resolution to make an even comparison, but I really don't have the time for it right now.

25 November 2010, 16:31	#37
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Hi Cammy, I wanted to try some of these games but I couldn't add another drive or directory for the files so gave up. If there is an ISO I can burn to CD I can try that in my A1200T as it is has DVDRW in it? I wanted to try some of the 68k(060) games off that site like Duke Nukem 3D, but I couldn't figure out how to access the files I have all the .sit files and stuff on my 'Work' partition but stopped there, I only didn't post becuase I didn't want to take this thread too far off topic and plus I've been doing other things... If you can point me in the direction of an ISO for the Settlers II I can try installing that and see if it works. Also can I make the HDF bigger? Steve.

25 November 2010, 17:50	#39
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	if youre using AmigaOS, you can use the mac handler included in shapeshifter to mount the MacHD. then you can easily copy over the .sit files. Then in mac os drop the .sit files onto StuffIt Expander to extract them. I tested the Settlers II download listed by Fabie and it does work fine.

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