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Old 20 August 2022, 02:20   #1
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Question Can't open icon information, execute a command, create a new drawer, etc.

I have a rev 6a Amiga 500 with a 512K RTC expansion and a PiStorm and KS 3.2 ROM. 1meg of ChipRAM and 128meg of FastRAM. I just did a fresh installation of AmigaOS 3.2 yesterday. The machine was working fine.

Today I started some simple installations and customization. Now when I right-click -> Execute command, nothing happens. Same with a right-click -> Information or right-click -> New Drawer. I'm sure other functions are broken as well.

I've attached a couple images of what SnoopDOS shows when I try to execute a command or get information for an icon.

Since yesterday (when everything was fine) I have done the following:
- Changed from NTSC to PAL monitor
- Changed the fonts, color palette and overscan
- Changed my locale to Canada with -7 time zone.
- Changed my Workbench patterns.
- Installed LHA, Dopus v4.16, AWeb, WHDLoad and Next.

That is ALL that I have done. What did I do to break the OS? How can I fix it?
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Old 20 August 2022, 03:01   #2
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Most likely AWeb broke it. It installs old versions of various ClassAct/Reaction classes without prompting, overwriting the newer versions that ship with 3.2. Everything you’re trying to do is Reaction related, hence why it’s not working.

Restore the contents of SYS:Classes from the 3.2 install media and you should be back to normal.
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Old 20 August 2022, 13:08   #3
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It sounds to me like the ToolsDaemon freeze. Have you installed it? Have you applied the OS3.9 patch? This is required for anything above OS3.9.

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/ToolsDaemon22
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Old 20 August 2022, 13:26   #4
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It sounds to me like the ToolsDaemon freeze. Have you installed it? Have you applied the OS3.9 patch? This is required for anything above OS3.9.

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/ToolsDaemon22
Never heard of it. I will take a look.

Quick question... how do I see which version, if any, of ToolsDaemon that I currently have installed?

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Oddball thing... I was using the A500 and for some reason everything started working normally again. No changes on my side, not even a restart that I remember.
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Old 20 August 2022, 18:37   #6
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Never heard of it. I will take a look.

Quick question... how do I see which version, if any, of ToolsDaemon that I currently have installed?
If you had it it would likely be in your WBStartup drawer. It doesn't sound like you have it anyway, so not to worry! Maybe a reboot fixed your problem?! Anyway, as they say..."if it ain't broke don't fix it".
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Old 21 August 2022, 04:04   #7
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If you had it it would likely be in your WBStartup drawer. It doesn't sound like you have it anyway, so not to worry! Maybe a reboot fixed your problem?! Anyway, as they say..."if it ain't broke don't fix it".
...and its broke again. Powered up, tried to open a command line and nothing.
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Come accennato da Matt_H, qualche applicazione installata ha sovrascritto file di sistema OS 3.2 con vecchi file di OS precedenti.

La soluzione Ideale se hai un backup, è di ricopiare Librerie e File di Sistema OS 3.2 sovrascritti, se non conosci quali file sono stati sovrascritti, potresti ricopiarli tutti.

In the future avoid doing installations of old software on OS 3.2, if you really need to install the software, you have to do it manually so you can see what is being overwritten.
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Old 21 August 2022, 22:48   #9
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Restore the contents of SYS:Classes from the 3.2 install media and you should be back to normal.
This seems to have fixed it permanently. Thank you!
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Old 25 January 2024, 13:37   #10
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Found the culprit

Just an update... I redid my hard drive and found that installing AWeb caused the issue. All was well until AWeb was installed.
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Old 25 January 2024, 15:09   #11
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Without seeing details I would say never choose Novice mode in the installer.

AWeb is based on ClassAct/ReAction. ReAction comes with the OS since 3.5, ClassAct is its predecessor. Your installation of AWeb might contain an early version of ClassAct. Installing it defacto is a downgrade of the classes which makes most of the OS programs to fail.

Choosing Advanced or Expert mode in the installer might give you the opportunity to refuse the installation of ClassAct. AWeb will run anyway because it then uses the newer classes from ReAction.
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Have you applied the OS3.9 patch? This is required for anything above OS3.9.

OS3.2 is not superior version to OS3.9, OS3.2 is an update of OS3.1, the applications of OS3.9 native are incompatible with with OS3.2
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the applications of OS3.9 native are incompatible with with OS3.2
Why do you say so? This is simply not true!

All the prefs programs and tools from the OS 3.9 CD work perfectly on an installed OS 3.2. All you need is resource.library.
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I don't know how you guys do it, but before installing any software, since I don't trust the installers to ask me everything, I update outdated files by hand before installing. This way my updated files do not get replaced.
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