New CD32 compilation project (Flashback + Alien 3) - Page 5

earok · 28 January 2014, 12:26

No problem at all, your English seems perfectly fine to me. Where abouts in Russia? I used to have internet friends in Krasnoyarsk. Was the CD32 sold in stores over there?

Looks like Another World does indeed have a slave for second button support. I've not tried that slave though so I don't know what exactly the second button does. Edit: never mind, it just brings up the password enter box, which requires a keyboard anyway!

http://www.whdload.de/games/AnotherWorld.html

PS search whdload.de if you want to find out what capabilities whdload adds to Amiga games.

blaze-f · 28 January 2014, 13:01

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No problem at all, your English seems perfectly fine to me.

Nice.

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Where abouts in Russia?

Rostov-on-Don. It's in the south of our country and so faaaaar away from Krasnoyarsk

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Was the CD32 sold in stores over there?

Unfortunately we have no stores that specialise on retro gaming stuff. But we have some internet forums like GBX.ru, where people buy consoles, games and other stuff on ebay, hit-japan or something like that and resell them at a higher price. Or sell their own collections... for many reasons.

It's perfect solution for people, who doesn't want buy directly from ebay. Me for example)

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Looks like Another World does indeed have a slave for second button support. I've not tried that slave though so I don't know what exactly the second button does.

Can you test it? Sure if this slave doesn't have 2 button support - you don't need to add this game to your compilation.

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PS search whdload.de if you want to find out what capabilities whdload adds to Amiga games.

Thanx.

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never mind, it just brings up the password enter box, which requires a keyboard anyway!

You mean password screen or copy protection screen during loading?

Sorry, but last time i tried to play Another World on my CD32 year ago and can't remember anything... except that one version is freezing on level 2 and other one plays fine. I used a few compilation disks like 888 in 1, but can't remember which one have playable version.

earok · 28 January 2014, 19:10

I just gave Another World's latest WHDLOAD slave a test, I was wrong about the code screen (you can input with joystick) so the second button is very useful. Also I checked, the version from the 888 CD crashes on the second level (even with the latest slave and when you skip there directly), but the one from whdownload seems to work fine.

blaze-f · 28 January 2014, 19:57

I have bad news - Flashback crashes at end of second level, where you enter the death tower.

Also i noticed that cutscenes runs little faster than they should. Music does not keep up with them. It's clearly visible in the intro.

retrogamer · 28 January 2014, 20:06

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Originally Posted by blaze-f

I have bad news - Flashback crashes at end of second level, where you enter the death tower.

Also i noticed that cutscenes runs little faster than they should. Music does not keep up with them. It's clearly visible in the intro.

Are you using the newest slave?

You can set CUSTOM4=1 to slowdown the anim sequence on fast cpu.

earok · 28 January 2014, 21:13

Sorry, yes, I'll set CUSTOM4=1 on the next release to keep the cutscenes going at the right speed.

It may be just the version of Flashback I'm using, I'll try putting a different one in to see if it's any better.

Retro1234 · 28 January 2014, 21:36

Flashback is the EAB file server Retroplay folder
Another World latest .slave uses a Kickstart that you cant distribute

earok · 28 January 2014, 22:53

O_o bugger. I just took the kickstarts folder from the 888 collection for my one. I'll take them out and see what I can still get to run.

Retro1234 · 29 January 2014, 00:09

Theres also a WHDload Key hidden I cant remember what its called and in what folder so its not a good idea to copy folders like C/S etc from 888 etc

earok · 29 January 2014, 01:34

I'm definitely going to need to put the project on hold for the next two-three weeks, at least. Happy to share my work in progress folder on Dropbox etc if someone else wants to take over for now, otherwise I'll get back to work after my other project is done.

blaze-f · 29 January 2014, 08:59

That's all right. Thank you for your work. We'll wait.

I hope, you can make Flashback playable.

Cobe · 03 February 2014, 23:41

@lentivector did you tried xtreme racing on real cd32? On my cd32 unfortunatly it just wont work. When starts loading, before it should display first title screen it blocks. Screen stays black, power light goes dimm, cd light stays on but nothing happends... On emulator it works of course.
I tried adding Virtual Karting 2 to compilations but it seems that it needs every single byte of those 2 mega free. It wont work just displays not enough memory. But with simple adopting of startup-sequence of original AmigaCD of Virtual Karting 2 it works on cd32. If anyone interested I'll upload iso.

earok · 04 February 2014, 00:07

@cobe I thought I tried Xtreme Racing myself on real CD32 and it seemed to work OK. I'll double check.

Very interested to hear that you got VK2 working! Any chance you can upload your ISO to the zone? When I get back to working on the project there might be one or two tricks I can do to get it running on a compilation (add21k, dismounting rad disk after soft reboot etc).

Cobe · 04 February 2014, 00:19

@earok I'm new here and I dont get that zone, also I think I don't have premision to access it. So here's link https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzoiylx2p0wsz4m/vk2cdr.iso
That what you wrote fully makes sense. Maybe it will work that way.

earok · 04 February 2014, 00:21

Thanks, I got it. Here's how to get access to the zone:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26201

SolderPCB · 05 February 2014, 04:33

Earok have you tried FIFA? I believe it comes with an HD installer, not WHDLoad.

earok · 05 February 2014, 04:39

I have, I didn't have any luck at the time but I didn't realise it had an HD installer. In any case the game (afaik) requires a keyboard for certain functions, though I could see if I can get joy2kbd working with it.

earok · 05 February 2014, 10:44

@cobe Xtreme Racing seems to be intermittent. Tried it tonight, first time it didn't work. Gave the CD32 a cold reset, then it seemed to work just fine. I might do a couple of things to try and maximise the amount of RAM available for the game.

Edit: I take it you have a PAL CD32?

earok · 05 February 2014, 11:13

@cobe Hurray! Virtual Karting 2 on my compilation passes the first test (running in emulated 2mb ram) so it's more than likely it'll work on a real CD32. It's also much better than VK1 since you can accelerate with a button and play on six tracks

Thanks for providing the ISO, much appreciated.

If you were curious, this is how I got it working:

Virtual Karting 2.start

Code:

C:mount c:rad
echo "" >rad:vk2
reboot

Near top of compilation Startup Sequence

Code:

IF EXISTS RAD:VK2
remrad force rad: >nil:
add21k >nil:
avail flush >nil:
Assign VK2_ProgramDisk: sys:games/vk2/VK2_Programdisk >nil:
Assign VK2_TracksDisk1: sys:games/vk2/VK2_Tracksdisk1 >nil:
Assign VK2_TracksDisk2: sys:games/vk2/VK2_Tracksdisk2 >nil:
VK2_ProgramDisk:VK2 >nil:
ENDIF

SolderPCB · 05 February 2014, 15:35

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Originally Posted by earok

I have, I didn't have any luck at the time but I didn't realise it had an HD installer. In any case the game (afaik) requires a keyboard for certain functions, though I could see if I can get joy2kbd working with it.

FIFA only needs a 2 button joystick, it is a console port. Keyboard is only needed when you have a 1 button joystick

28 January 2014, 12:26	#81
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	No problem at all, your English seems perfectly fine to me. Where abouts in Russia? I used to have internet friends in Krasnoyarsk. Was the CD32 sold in stores over there? Looks like Another World does indeed have a slave for second button support. I've not tried that slave though so I don't know what exactly the second button does. Edit: never mind, it just brings up the password enter box, which requires a keyboard anyway! http://www.whdload.de/games/AnotherWorld.html PS search whdload.de if you want to find out what capabilities whdload adds to Amiga games. Last edited by earok; 28 January 2014 at 12:43.

05 February 2014, 10:44	#98
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	@cobe Xtreme Racing seems to be intermittent. Tried it tonight, first time it didn't work. Gave the CD32 a cold reset, then it seemed to work just fine. I might do a couple of things to try and maximise the amount of RAM available for the game. Edit: I take it you have a PAL CD32? Last edited by earok; 05 February 2014 at 10:52.

05 February 2014, 11:13	#99
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	@cobe Hurray! Virtual Karting 2 on my compilation passes the first test (running in emulated 2mb ram) so it's more than likely it'll work on a real CD32. It's also much better than VK1 since you can accelerate with a button and play on six tracks Thanks for providing the ISO, much appreciated. If you were curious, this is how I got it working: Virtual Karting 2.start Code: C:mount c:rad echo "" >rad:vk2 reboot Near top of compilation Startup Sequence Code: IF EXISTS RAD:VK2 remrad force rad: >nil: add21k >nil: avail flush >nil: Assign VK2_ProgramDisk: sys:games/vk2/VK2_Programdisk >nil: Assign VK2_TracksDisk1: sys:games/vk2/VK2_Tracksdisk1 >nil: Assign VK2_TracksDisk2: sys:games/vk2/VK2_Tracksdisk2 >nil: VK2_ProgramDisk:VK2 >nil: ENDIF Last edited by earok; 05 February 2014 at 11:20.

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28 January 2014, 19:10	#83
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	I just gave Another World's latest WHDLOAD slave a test, I was wrong about the code screen (you can input with joystick) so the second button is very useful. Also I checked, the version from the 888 CD crashes on the second level (even with the latest slave and when you skip there directly), but the one from whdownload seems to work fine.

28 January 2014, 19:57	#84
blaze-f Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Russia Age: 34 Posts: 22	I have bad news - Flashback crashes at end of second level, where you enter the death tower. Also i noticed that cutscenes runs little faster than they should. Music does not keep up with them. It's clearly visible in the intro.

28 January 2014, 21:13	#86
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	Sorry, yes, I'll set CUSTOM4=1 on the next release to keep the cutscenes going at the right speed. It may be just the version of Flashback I'm using, I'll try putting a different one in to see if it's any better.

28 January 2014, 21:36	#87
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Flashback is the EAB file server Retroplay folder Another World latest .slave uses a Kickstart that you cant distribute

28 January 2014, 22:53	#88
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	O_o bugger. I just took the kickstarts folder from the 888 collection for my one. I'll take them out and see what I can still get to run.

29 January 2014, 00:09	#89
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Theres also a WHDload Key hidden I cant remember what its called and in what folder so its not a good idea to copy folders like C/S etc from 888 etc

29 January 2014, 01:34	#90
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	I'm definitely going to need to put the project on hold for the next two-three weeks, at least. Happy to share my work in progress folder on Dropbox etc if someone else wants to take over for now, otherwise I'll get back to work after my other project is done.

29 January 2014, 08:59	#91
blaze-f Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Russia Age: 34 Posts: 22	That's all right. Thank you for your work. We'll wait. I hope, you can make Flashback playable.

03 February 2014, 23:41	#92
Cobe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Belgrade / Serbia Age: 41 Posts: 999	@lentivector did you tried xtreme racing on real cd32? On my cd32 unfortunatly it just wont work. When starts loading, before it should display first title screen it blocks. Screen stays black, power light goes dimm, cd light stays on but nothing happends... On emulator it works of course. I tried adding Virtual Karting 2 to compilations but it seems that it needs every single byte of those 2 mega free. It wont work just displays not enough memory. But with simple adopting of startup-sequence of original AmigaCD of Virtual Karting 2 it works on cd32. If anyone interested I'll upload iso.

04 February 2014, 00:07	#93
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	@cobe I thought I tried Xtreme Racing myself on real CD32 and it seemed to work OK. I'll double check. Very interested to hear that you got VK2 working! Any chance you can upload your ISO to the zone? When I get back to working on the project there might be one or two tricks I can do to get it running on a compilation (add21k, dismounting rad disk after soft reboot etc).

04 February 2014, 00:19	#94
Cobe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Belgrade / Serbia Age: 41 Posts: 999	@earok I'm new here and I dont get that zone, also I think I don't have premision to access it. So here's link https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzoiylx2p0wsz4m/vk2cdr.iso That what you wrote fully makes sense. Maybe it will work that way.

04 February 2014, 00:21	#95
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	Thanks, I got it. Here's how to get access to the zone: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26201

05 February 2014, 04:33	#96
SolderPCB Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 87	Earok have you tried FIFA? I believe it comes with an HD installer, not WHDLoad.

05 February 2014, 04:39	#97
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	I have, I didn't have any luck at the time but I didn't realise it had an HD installer. In any case the game (afaik) requires a keyboard for certain functions, though I could see if I can get joy2kbd working with it.

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