Create and ADF of my old demomaker demo

bLAZER · 19 January 2009, 21:40

Hi,

can someone with the proper hardware and knowledge do me a favour and create an ADF of an old Demomaker demo a friend and I made around 1991-1992?

I got a copy of the floppy but I don't have a real Amiga and my friend only has a 500 with almost no software. So if someone could give me their address and do it that would be great!

prowler · 19 January 2009, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by bLAZER

Hi,

can someone with the proper hardware and knowledge do me a favour and create an ADF of an old Demomaker demo a friend and I made around 1991-1992?

I got a copy of the floppy but I don't have a real Amiga and my friend only has a 500 with almost no software. So if someone could give me their address and do it that would be great!

Hi bLAZER,

I will gladly do this for you if you don't mind sending it to the UK.

PM me if your'e OK with that.

prowler

bLAZER · 19 January 2009, 23:26

Thank dude! I'll send you a PM.

prowler · 19 January 2009, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by bLAZER

Thank dude! I'll send you a PM.

Reply sent!

prowler · 23 January 2009, 23:46

Hi bLAZER,

I've received your disk.

It is a HD floppy disk. I put it in my Amiga 1200, which has a DD floppy disk drive, and it gave read errors on every track, whether the HD sense hole was covered or not.

Did you format the disk to 880kB, or was it actually formatted to 1760kB on an Amiga HD floppy drive?

If it is formatted to 1760kB, then the only way I'll be able to image this is with my Catweasel card.

If it is formatted to 880kB, then the disk appears to be unreadable (this will often be the case with unbranded HD floppies used as DD disks.

prowler

prowler · 19 March 2009, 01:19

Hi bLAZER,

I received your DD disk today.

So far, I have not been able to make an .adf image of this disk on my Amigas because the disk has track read errors.

However, I have salvaged the Startup-Sequence file and the application (these were not damaged).

It looks like these files were recently copied onto a disk which was last written to a long time ago.

Can you tell me which Amiga OS version was used to format the disk and make it bootable? That will enable me to build a suitable image file to copy the files into.

Thanks,

prowler

prowler · 20 March 2009, 03:29

Hi bLAZER,

I have made an .ADF file from your DD disk with TSGUI.

The disk was found to have "bad sector checksum" errors on tracks 2,9 and 51, and a "too few sectors" error on track 5. An .ADF file was created by ignoring the errors.

The file can be written to another disk with no errors and the copy can be imaged with TSGUI, again with no errors.

The original disk can be mounted, but hangs the machine if an attempt is made to boot from it, and eventually a Guru screen appears reporting a software failure. The disk is meant to be bootable, I assume?

Anyhow, I now have an .ADF image and copy disk which may or may not boot. I haven't tried it yet, because I want to have a look at the images from the original and copy disks first with a binary file editor to check if they are identical and to look at the bad tracks for signs of where the errors occurred and how they might have been fixed.

In the meantime, if you could let me know which version of Amiga OS was used to format the disk and make it bootable, I can just copy the files from the original disk to a freshly formatted one and create an image for you from that instead.

prowler

bLAZER · 21 March 2009, 16:20

Oh, sorry I did'nt see this thread, I was waiting for a PM

The disk is bootable yes. It's a demo made in RSI Demomaker, I don't remember but I guess it's just an exe-file, that's called from startup-sequence.

The copying was made with X-copy on an Amiga 500, so OS 1.3.

Hoping for the best!

prowler · 21 March 2009, 16:33

Hi bLAZER,

I guessed it was X-Copy by looking at the .ADF image I'd created with TSGUI.

I'll create a bootable floppy disk image from Workbench 1.3 and copy the executable file and startup-sequence into it. It'll be ready to upload when I have checked it runs OK.

Have you anywhere particular you would like it uploaded, or is the Zone alright? (I can encrypt it if you'd like to keep it to yourself

)

prowler

bLAZER · 21 March 2009, 18:12

Great, you can upload it to the zone... and then I should probably let someone from http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/ know about it... even if it's just demo maker ;P

prowler · 21 March 2009, 18:18

If it loads OK in testing once I've created the image, it'll be up in the Zone for you tomorrow.

prowler

bLAZER · 21 March 2009, 18:36

Excellent! Can't wait!

prowler · 22 March 2009, 19:20

Hi bLAZER,

Your disk image is up in the Zone.

When I run it in WinUAE, I get a software error just as the PowerPacker decompression finishes, but I'm not sure if I'm using the correct configuration.

Give it a try in your emulation and, whether you get it working or not, please post a copy of your configuration file in the Zone so I can confirm whether it behaves the same way here.

Thanks,

prowler

StingRay · 22 March 2009, 19:36

Demo works fine with a standard A500 config. And "Coding: Blazer" *cough* :P

cosmicfrog · 22 March 2009, 19:53

wow thats taken me back a few years
remember gettin RSI demo maker all that time ago

prowler · 22 March 2009, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Demo works fine with a standard A500 config.

Thanks, StingRay!

TCD · 22 March 2009, 19:54

Makes me wonder what config you used prowler?

prowler · 22 March 2009, 19:56

I'm wondering much the same thing, TCD.

TCD · 22 March 2009, 20:06

Have you tested it then with the A500 'most common' quickstart?

prowler · 22 March 2009, 20:18

No, I tested it in WinUAE 0.8.8r8 under Windows 95. It should have worked, but I obviously got some element of the configuration wrong (I'm not sure which). There are no 'quickstart' options in this version.

However, my next run will be with WinUAE 1.5.3 and with the A500 'most common' quickstart option.

19 January 2009, 21:40	#1
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Create and ADF of my old demomaker demo Hi, can someone with the proper hardware and knowledge do me a favour and create an ADF of an old Demomaker demo a friend and I made around 1991-1992? I got a copy of the floppy but I don't have a real Amiga and my friend only has a 500 with almost no software. So if someone could give me their address and do it that would be great!

22 March 2009, 20:18	#20
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	No, I tested it in WinUAE 0.8.8r8 under Windows 95. It should have worked, but I obviously got some element of the configuration wrong (I'm not sure which). There are no 'quickstart' options in this version. However, my next run will be with WinUAE 1.5.3 and with the A500 'most common' quickstart option. Last edited by prowler; 22 March 2009 at 20:25. Reason: Punctuation

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19 January 2009, 23:26	#3
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Thank dude! I'll send you a PM.

23 January 2009, 23:46	#5
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi bLAZER, I've received your disk. It is a HD floppy disk. I put it in my Amiga 1200, which has a DD floppy disk drive, and it gave read errors on every track, whether the HD sense hole was covered or not. Did you format the disk to 880kB, or was it actually formatted to 1760kB on an Amiga HD floppy drive? If it is formatted to 1760kB, then the only way I'll be able to image this is with my Catweasel card. If it is formatted to 880kB, then the disk appears to be unreadable (this will often be the case with unbranded HD floppies used as DD disks. prowler

19 March 2009, 01:19	#6
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi bLAZER, I received your DD disk today. So far, I have not been able to make an .adf image of this disk on my Amigas because the disk has track read errors. However, I have salvaged the Startup-Sequence file and the application (these were not damaged). It looks like these files were recently copied onto a disk which was last written to a long time ago. Can you tell me which Amiga OS version was used to format the disk and make it bootable? That will enable me to build a suitable image file to copy the files into. Thanks, prowler

20 March 2009, 03:29	#7
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi bLAZER, I have made an .ADF file from your DD disk with TSGUI. The disk was found to have "bad sector checksum" errors on tracks 2,9 and 51, and a "too few sectors" error on track 5. An .ADF file was created by ignoring the errors. The file can be written to another disk with no errors and the copy can be imaged with TSGUI, again with no errors. The original disk can be mounted, but hangs the machine if an attempt is made to boot from it, and eventually a Guru screen appears reporting a software failure. The disk is meant to be bootable, I assume? Anyhow, I now have an .ADF image and copy disk which may or may not boot. I haven't tried it yet, because I want to have a look at the images from the original and copy disks first with a binary file editor to check if they are identical and to look at the bad tracks for signs of where the errors occurred and how they might have been fixed. In the meantime, if you could let me know which version of Amiga OS was used to format the disk and make it bootable, I can just copy the files from the original disk to a freshly formatted one and create an image for you from that instead. prowler

21 March 2009, 16:20	#8
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Oh, sorry I did'nt see this thread, I was waiting for a PM The disk is bootable yes. It's a demo made in RSI Demomaker, I don't remember but I guess it's just an exe-file, that's called from startup-sequence. The copying was made with X-copy on an Amiga 500, so OS 1.3. Hoping for the best!

21 March 2009, 16:33	#9
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi bLAZER, I guessed it was X-Copy by looking at the .ADF image I'd created with TSGUI. I'll create a bootable floppy disk image from Workbench 1.3 and copy the executable file and startup-sequence into it. It'll be ready to upload when I have checked it runs OK. Have you anywhere particular you would like it uploaded, or is the Zone alright? (I can encrypt it if you'd like to keep it to yourself ) prowler

21 March 2009, 18:12	#10
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Great, you can upload it to the zone... and then I should probably let someone from http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/ know about it... even if it's just demo maker ;P

21 March 2009, 18:18	#11
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	If it loads OK in testing once I've created the image, it'll be up in the Zone for you tomorrow. prowler

21 March 2009, 18:36	#12
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Excellent! Can't wait!

22 March 2009, 19:20	#13
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi bLAZER, Your disk image is up in the Zone. When I run it in WinUAE, I get a software error just as the PowerPacker decompression finishes, but I'm not sure if I'm using the correct configuration. Give it a try in your emulation and, whether you get it working or not, please post a copy of your configuration file in the Zone so I can confirm whether it behaves the same way here. Thanks, prowler

22 March 2009, 19:36	#14
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Demo works fine with a standard A500 config. And "Coding: Blazer" cough :P

22 March 2009, 19:53	#15
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	wow thats taken me back a few years remember gettin RSI demo maker all that time ago

22 March 2009, 19:54	#17
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	Makes me wonder what config you used prowler?

22 March 2009, 19:56	#18
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	I'm wondering much the same thing, TCD.

22 March 2009, 20:06	#19
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	Have you tested it then with the A500 'most common' quickstart?

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