Spider USB corrupts all files

Aminator · 20 June 2022, 16:08

I got Spider USB for my amiga 1200 tower system and it corrupts all files. I have tried multiple usb sticks and they are all recognised by the amiga and i can view the contents of them, but it's always the same problem. For example if i try to move a file from usb to hard drive it complains about bad sectors, and if i move a lha archive to ram: from usb and try to unarchive it, it gives this error: BAD CRC (wanted C200E851 got 03D8E549)

I have formatted the usb drives as FAT and i have also tried with FAT32 but no luck.

edit: I'm using poseidon stack 4.4 and spider.device 3.22

Leon Besson · 20 June 2022, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aminator

I got Spider USB for my amiga 1200 tower system and it corrupts all files. I have tried multiple usb sticks and they are all recognised by the amiga and i can view the contents of them, but it's always the same problem. For example if i try to move a file from usb to hard drive it complains about bad sectors, and if i move a lha archive to ram: from usb and try to unarchive it, it gives this error: BAD CRC (wanted C200E851 got 03D8E549)

I have formatted the usb drives as FAT and i have also tried with FAT32 but no luck.

edit: I'm using poseidon stack 4.4 and spider.device 3.22

Can confirm I’m using a Spider-II and Poseidon 4.5 and Not come across this problem.

What’s your full setup comprise of? Mediator version, pci.library version, etc..

Have you checked that you don’t have any RAM errors with Amiga TestKit?

Which accelerator are you using?

PCI slot assignments…?

PCIINFO output..

Laters Mang!

Leon Besson · 20 June 2022, 21:26

Edit: Also make sure you have run Medconfig in Config/Report mode to setup the USB buffers.

TCD · 20 June 2022, 23:49

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Leon Besson · 21 June 2022, 00:26

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Originally Posted by TCD

Fun fact: You can actually edit your own posts.

Another fun fact Bromigo! You can get done for going off topic by a Mod.

TCD · 21 June 2022, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

Another fun fact Bromigo! You can get done for going off topic by a Mod.

Been there, done that. The mod part that is.

Aminator · 21 June 2022, 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

Can confirm I’m using a Spider-II and Poseidon 4.5 and Not come across this problem.

What’s your full setup comprise of? Mediator version, pci.library version, etc..

Have you checked that you don’t have any RAM errors with Amiga TestKit?

Which accelerator are you using?

PCI slot assignments…?

PCIINFO output..

Laters Mang!

Mediator 1200TX rev 2.2
Phase5 Blizzard 1230MkIV with scsi kit

pci.library - ver. 13.9
MediatorNET.device - ver. 2.10

pciinfo:

Code:

Pci Device 1:
   VendorID: $121a
   VendorName: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.
   DeviceID: $5
   DeviceName: Voodoo 3
   ClassCode: $30000
   RevisionID: $1
   InterruptPin: 1
   SubsystemVendorID: $121a
   SubsystemID: $57
   MemSpace0: $80000000 - $81ffffff
   MemSpace1: $82000000 - $83ffffff
   IOSpace2: $ed6000 - $ed60ff
   RomSpace: $84000000 - $8400ffff

Pci Device 2:
   VendorID: $10ec
   VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   DeviceID: $8139
   DeviceName: RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
   ClassCode: $20000
   RevisionID: $10
   InterruptPin: 3
   SubsystemVendorID: $10ec
   SubsystemID: $8139
   IOSpace0: $ed6100 - $ed61ff
   MemSpace1: $84100000 - $841000ff
   RomSpace: $84200000 - $8421ffff

Pci Device 3:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Corporation
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: OHCI USB Controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 2
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $84300000 - $84300fff

Pci Device 4:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Corporation
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: OHCI USB Controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 3
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $84400000 - $84400fff

Pci Device 5:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Corporation
   DeviceID: $e0
   DeviceName: uPD72010x USB 2.0 Controller
   ClassCode: $c0320
   RevisionID: $4
   InterruptPin: 4
   SubsystemVendorID: $ee4
   SubsystemID: $89e
   MemSpace0: $84500000 - $845000ff

I haven't tested the ram

klx300r · 21 June 2022, 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Been there, done that. The mod part that is.

@ Aminator

never had any issues with my Spider USB when I had in my 1200 tower transfering literally thousands of files

Aminator · 21 June 2022, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

@ Aminator

never had any issues with my Spider USB when I had in my 1200 tower transfering literally thousands of files

I have and i dont know why.

Leon Besson · 21 June 2022, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aminator

Mediator 1200TX rev 2.2
Phase5 Blizzard 1230MkIV with scsi kit

pci.library - ver. 13.9
MediatorNET.device - ver. 2.10

pciinfo:

Code:

Pci Device 1:
   VendorID: $121a
   VendorName: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.
   DeviceID: $5
   DeviceName: Voodoo 3
   ClassCode: $30000
   RevisionID: $1
   InterruptPin: 1
   SubsystemVendorID: $121a
   SubsystemID: $57
   MemSpace0: $80000000 - $81ffffff
   MemSpace1: $82000000 - $83ffffff
   IOSpace2: $ed6000 - $ed60ff
   RomSpace: $84000000 - $8400ffff

Pci Device 2:
   VendorID: $10ec
   VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   DeviceID: $8139
   DeviceName: RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
   ClassCode: $20000
   RevisionID: $10
   InterruptPin: 3
   SubsystemVendorID: $10ec
   SubsystemID: $8139
   IOSpace0: $ed6100 - $ed61ff
   MemSpace1: $84100000 - $841000ff
   RomSpace: $84200000 - $8421ffff

Pci Device 3:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Corporation
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: OHCI USB Controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 2
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $84300000 - $84300fff

Pci Device 4:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Corporation
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: OHCI USB Controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 3
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $84400000 - $84400fff

Pci Device 5:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Corporation
   DeviceID: $e0
   DeviceName: uPD72010x USB 2.0 Controller
   ClassCode: $c0320
   RevisionID: $4
   InterruptPin: 4
   SubsystemVendorID: $ee4
   SubsystemID: $89e
   MemSpace0: $84500000 - $845000ff

I haven't tested the ram

So pci.library 13.9. Why are you not using 13.10?

My PCI setup;

PCI 1 = Voodoo 4
PCI 2 = Spider-II
PCI 3 = Soundblaster
PCI 6 = Realtek NIC

I too are using a 1200 TX+ with 8MB jumper set.

Get hold of AmigaTestKit and boot off a floppy and run a RAM test.

Not had any issues with the 1230 MKIV with SCSI apart from using the FastRAM jumper on the card where the RAM wasn’t up to the task.

Also did you run MedConfig with the Report/Config option and setup the Spider USB buffers?

Aminator · 21 June 2022, 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

So pci.library 13.9. Why are you not using 13.10?

My PCI setup;

PCI 1 = Voodoo 4
PCI 2 = Spider-II
PCI 3 = Soundblaster
PCI 6 = Realtek NIC

I too are using a 1200 TX+ with 8MB jumper set.

Get hold of AmigaTestKit and boot off a floppy and run a RAM test.

Not had any issues with the 1230 MKIV with SCSI apart from using the FastRAM jumper on the card where the RAM wasn’t up to the task.

Also did you run MedConfig with the Report/Config option and setup the Spider USB buffers?

AmigaTestKit didn't give any memory errors.
I have run medconfig and the spider buffer is set to 5.
Edit: i also updated the pci.library but it didnt help.

Leon Besson · 21 June 2022, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aminator

AmigaTestKit didn't give any memory errors.
I have run medconfig and the spider buffer is set to 5.
Edit: i also updated the pci.library but it didnt help.

Have you tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot?

Is this Spider card new?

Aminator · 21 June 2022, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

Have you tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot?

Is this Spider card new?

I have tried different slots but not every possible one.
The card is new, bought it from amigastore.eu about two weeks ago.

Leon Besson · 21 June 2022, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aminator

I have tried different slots but not every possible one.
The card is new, bought it from amigastore.eu about two weeks ago.

Have you upgraded Poseidon to. 4.5? http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RapidRoad

New Tower setup? I.e Good PSU?

Nothing being overclocked? Voodo card for example or even 1230?

In your last PCIINFO, int 3 is being used between one of your USB ports and the Network card. You have tried different USB ports?

Check your jumper settings on the 1230, manual obtainable here;

http://phase5.a1k.org/manuals.html

Try re-arranging cards with voodoo PCI 1, USB PCI2, Network PCI 6.

Or even just try the Voodoo and the USB card on there own.

Unfortunately you will need to troubleshoot where the problem lies.

Aminator · 21 June 2022, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

Have you upgraded Poseidon to. 4.5? http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RapidRoad

New Tower setup? I.e Good PSU?

Nothing being overclocked? Voodo card for example or even 1230?

In your last PCIINFO, int 3 is being used between one of your USB ports and the Network card. You have tried different USB ports?

Check your jumper settings on the 1230, manual obtainable here;

http://phase5.a1k.org/manuals.html

Try re-arranging cards with voodoo PCI 1, USB PCI2, Network PCI 6.

Or even just try the Voodoo and the USB card on there own.

Unfortunately you will need to troubleshoot where the problem lies.

Nothing is overclocked and the jumper settings are correct. I tried it without network card and tried every pci slot.
I'll try a new psu too but i dont think it will help.

I guess i'll have to try reinstalling workbench with just voodoo and the spider card.
And if that won't work either then it's probably just a faulty spider card

Leon Besson · 21 June 2022, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aminator

Nothing is overclocked and the jumper settings are correct. I tried it without network card and tried every pci slot.
I'll try a new psu too but i dont think it will help.

I guess i'll have to try reinstalling workbench with just voodoo and the spider card.
And if that won't work either then it's probably just a faulty spider card

Only other things are;

Poseidon is on latest version 4.5
Amiga 1200 ROM version? If 3.2 or 3.2.1 try 3.1 or 3.1.4?

When running your RAM test in AmiTestkit you tried testing;

- FastRAM only
- Chip and FastRAM
- No Kickstart Memory

Even if RAM is still not showing any errors, have you tried swapping the SIMM with another just in-case.

Anyways.. Good Luck Mang!

cloverskull · 22 June 2022, 08:46

Do you have a PC with an open PCI slot you can try plugging the Spider II in and do some file transfers? This could help diagnose whether or not it’s an issue with the card itself.

Quick edit - the Spider II USB card works out of the box for me on every PC I've plugged it into.

Hedeon · 22 June 2022, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

When running your RAM test in AmiTestkit you tried testing;

- FastRAM only
- Chip and FastRAM
- No Kickstart Memory

Even if RAM is still not showing any errors, have you tried swapping the SIMM with another just in-case.

The spider DMA buffer is in the RAM of the VGA card (as a consideration).

Leon Besson · 22 June 2022, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

The spider DMA buffer is in the RAM of the VGA card (as a consideration).

Yes was pondering that Hedeon after I wrote the above Mang!

Could be faulty Video RAM on the Voodoo card

Good pointer

20 June 2022, 16:08	#1
Aminator Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Finland Posts: 76	Spider USB corrupts all files I got Spider USB for my amiga 1200 tower system and it corrupts all files. I have tried multiple usb sticks and they are all recognised by the amiga and i can view the contents of them, but it's always the same problem. For example if i try to move a file from usb to hard drive it complains about bad sectors, and if i move a lha archive to ram: from usb and try to unarchive it, it gives this error: BAD CRC (wanted C200E851 got 03D8E549) I have formatted the usb drives as FAT and i have also tried with FAT32 but no luck. edit: I'm using poseidon stack 4.4 and spider.device 3.22 Last edited by Aminator; 20 June 2022 at 16:19.

22 June 2022, 08:46	#17
cloverskull Registered User Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: California Posts: 322	Do you have a PC with an open PCI slot you can try plugging the Spider II in and do some file transfers? This could help diagnose whether or not it’s an issue with the card itself. Quick edit - the Spider II USB card works out of the box for me on every PC I've plugged it into. Last edited by cloverskull; 22 June 2022 at 23:37.

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