Veteran (Software Horizons) Bugged or not?

ransom1122 · 29 March 2022, 06:28

I know this game is really bad, so we can leave that conversation for another day but is this game bugged or not?

After you finish a stage you energy does not refill back to max?

With no Energy Refills in the game and only one life, are you really supposed to beat this game?

It's got me thinking this game might be bugged after you beat a stage and your energy doesnt refill back to max?

Either way I have submitted a ticket for the WHDLoad version, to fix the energy refill after a stage issue and possibly add the skip stage or even an energy cheat.

Because there is no way this game can be beaten with one life...

ZEUSDAZ · 29 March 2022, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ransom1122

I know this game is really bad, so we can leave that conversation for another day but is this game bugged or not?

After you finish a stage you energy does not refill back to max?

With no Energy Refills in the game and only one life, are you really supposed to beat this game?

It's got me thinking this game might be bugged after you beat a stage and your energy doesnt refill back to max?

Either way I have submitted a ticket for the WHDLoad version, to fix the energy refill after a stage issue and possibly add the skip stage or even an energy cheat.

Because there is no way this game can be beaten with one life...

I did a SGT review of this a while back, nope It's not bugged, you only get 1 life with no energy refills, utter crud,...but bloody funny with those sounds fx screams

Radertified · 29 March 2022, 19:23

I tried the SPS version and yes, 1 life and no energy refills.

I don't think it's bugged. I think this is intended. The manual calls it an "exciting simulation" so just like real life, you only get 1 life and no energy refills when in battle. And given it's only 3 levels, I think it's intended.

ransom1122 · 29 March 2022, 20:06

There's 5 levels not 3. If you press help you can skip stages.

I think 3 levels were made only for the ST

Radertified · 29 March 2022, 21:15

My mistake. The box and manual both say 3. I assumed the Amiga version would've been a direct port of the ST version.

stevsurv · 30 March 2022, 05:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ransom1122

There's 5 levels not 3. If you press help you can skip stages.

I think 3 levels were made only for the ST

Even better.. Press Alt, Amiga left and Amiga right keys to skip all levels.

ransom1122 · 30 March 2022, 07:08

If that's the way the game is made, then the best I could get to is level 3.

Tips I've found is...

... Immedately throw a rocket launcher on the guys that throw the grenades at the start and or any other grenade throwers in any other level.

... Try to hold mouse button/Shoot at the enemies for short periods of time instead of holding it down for long and using all ammo

... Assume you bullets will hit the enemy in advance so you can start on the next enemy before he fires at you

... Helicopters can be disposed of by shooting at the pilot and not the helicopter

... Use rockets wisely, often you can attack two tanks and 2 people at the same time (Especially in level 2)

... Always pickup up Ammo & Rocket (Golden Bullets) Refills

Things I'm not sure of...

... You can't fire at the grenades launched by the grenade launcher men?

If anyone can add to this be my guest

ransom1122 · 11 June 2022, 02:51

I managed to speak with the developer Cedomir Igaly I wasn't expecting much seeing its been over 30 years ago, but here's a portion of his response...

Quote:

Amiga version came after that one, maybe that same year. And I've never
been "emotinally attached" to those games I've wrote and I've almost
never played them, with exception while working on them. So, I do not
remember much of details. One thing I am sure is that, at the beginning
of the game player got more than one life, was loosing life if being
shot, and that game was over when all lives were lost.

So maybe there are issues with the copies of this game after all

StingRay · 11 June 2022, 21:20

Then he clearly has a wrong memory of his own game. Anyway, this game is not worth spending any time on. That someone thought it would be a good idea to use C to for programming a "great" Operation Wolf clone is the main issue with the game.

Galahad/FLT · 11 June 2022, 21:33

I suspect its a one life game because it would be completed in only a few minutes

TjLaZer · 18 June 2022, 18:43

Ah another ST port. Terrible

29 March 2022, 06:28	#1
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Veteran (Software Horizons) Bugged or not? I know this game is really bad, so we can leave that conversation for another day but is this game bugged or not? After you finish a stage you energy does not refill back to max? With no Energy Refills in the game and only one life, are you really supposed to beat this game? It's got me thinking this game might be bugged after you beat a stage and your energy doesnt refill back to max? Either way I have submitted a ticket for the WHDLoad version, to fix the energy refill after a stage issue and possibly add the skip stage or even an energy cheat. Because there is no way this game can be beaten with one life...

11 June 2022, 21:20	#9
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Then he clearly has a wrong memory of his own game. Anyway, this game is not worth spending any time on. That someone thought it would be a good idea to use C to for programming a "great" Operation Wolf clone is the main issue with the game. Last edited by StingRay; 11 June 2022 at 22:35. Reason: typo

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Building CCS/New Horizons/WCI catalog	Matt_H	Coders. System	8	12 November 2018 19:42
New Horizons Design Works	Stuart	support.Apps	2	13 February 2015 20:25
Commodore & Amiga Horizons 28	Dizzy	AMR contributions	0	07 August 2008 21:56
Dragon Scape and Software Horizons	Zaquarta	HOL data problems	1	18 April 2008 20:57
Veteran scans	fryguy	HOL contributions	13	09 April 2008 19:27

29 March 2022, 19:23	#3
Radertified Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: - Posts: 728	I tried the SPS version and yes, 1 life and no energy refills. I don't think it's bugged. I think this is intended. The manual calls it an "exciting simulation" so just like real life, you only get 1 life and no energy refills when in battle. And given it's only 3 levels, I think it's intended.

29 March 2022, 20:06	#4
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	There's 5 levels not 3. If you press help you can skip stages. I think 3 levels were made only for the ST

29 March 2022, 21:15	#5
Radertified Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: - Posts: 728	My mistake. The box and manual both say 3. I assumed the Amiga version would've been a direct port of the ST version.

30 March 2022, 07:08	#7
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	If that's the way the game is made, then the best I could get to is level 3. Tips I've found is... ... Immedately throw a rocket launcher on the guys that throw the grenades at the start and or any other grenade throwers in any other level. ... Try to hold mouse button/Shoot at the enemies for short periods of time instead of holding it down for long and using all ammo ... Assume you bullets will hit the enemy in advance so you can start on the next enemy before he fires at you ... Helicopters can be disposed of by shooting at the pilot and not the helicopter ... Use rockets wisely, often you can attack two tanks and 2 people at the same time (Especially in level 2) ... Always pickup up Ammo & Rocket (Golden Bullets) Refills Things I'm not sure of... ... You can't fire at the grenades launched by the grenade launcher men? If anyone can add to this be my guest

11 June 2022, 21:33	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	I suspect its a one life game because it would be completed in only a few minutes

18 June 2022, 18:43	#11
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	Ah another ST port. Terrible

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)