Andreas' games with emulator problems corner - Page 4

Walker · 15 October 2002, 08:52

I had no trouble at all with a standard A500 config. Could your problem be related to a certain crack? I used the Skid Row version, but maybe you have the German version cracked by Venture?

Hmm...maybe we should hear what the problem is first....

andreas · 15 October 2002, 13:24

You'll get the answer if you re-read everything *carefully*.

The version is not a random version, but a particular one!
I should be called stupid if I complained about the SKID ROW version not working on WinUAE

That stubborn bastard requiring a special configuration is in the zone.

Walker · 15 October 2002, 13:30

Ouch! My bad!

andreas · 09 February 2003, 18:50

YEAH!

With next public WinUAE release, you will eventually be able to play these three games without silly workarounds in the emulator:

- Liverpool

- Murder

- Crack Down
(worked with a bunch of weird settings, but was sometimes system-dependent, so officially, it did NEVER work

)

Toni has tracked down some internal weird stuff these games do and implemented a small hack, so that these games work now.
Isn't that good news!

Drake1009 · 09 February 2003, 22:11

That's very good news. I never heard of the two of them but crack down was fun.

10 February 2003, 02:17

Hi guys...
The question is:
Why the sound of many games in WinUAE 088r9 is OK, and the
sames games with the same configuration in the WinUAE 0822r4
is wrong with speed variations. The games are many with this
problem: Slam Tilt AGA, Rodland and others.
In wich part of the last WinUAE is the problem...?
Thanks.

Paul · 10 February 2003, 10:13

Make sure Use Primary DirectSound Buffer is unticked (off)

11 February 2003, 02:48

Thanks Paul, but your tip don't work
I have tested thats tips many days ago
with differents configurations... and the
sound is wrong.
Is incredible, but in the old WinUAE 088r9
the sound is perfect!!!
I don't know.
Bye...

7-Zark-7 · 11 February 2003, 15:28

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
YEAH!

With next public WinUAE release, you will eventually be able to play these three games without silly workarounds in the emulator:

- Liverpool

- Murder

- Crack Down
(worked with a bunch of weird settings, but was sometimes system-dependent, so officially, it did NEVER work )

Toni has tracked down some internal weird stuff these games do and implemented a small hack, so that these games work now.
Isn't that good news!

Are we talking about U.S. Gold's MURDER? If so, great work!! That game has been annoying me for ages.

andreas · 11 February 2003, 18:46

Well, I modestly pass this praise to Toni.

Yes, it's U.S. Gold's MURDER I was talking about.

bytestorm · 17 March 2003, 10:22

I have small random graphic glitches in Simon the sorcerer 1 when using the newest version of winuae... (havent tested with older) im using the TOSEC set (aga) could someone please post a proper config?

please

andreas · 03 July 2003, 03:59

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
LaserMania 2 (polish) boots now (after installing a bootblock firstofall ) but doesn't make it into the game.
It stops at track 15. There are NO ERRORS on the disk, though. It passed my notorious copy-to-HD test with flying colors.

SOLVED

Game disk (TOSEC probably) missed explode.library which was NOT in :libs as expected.
Moreover, bootblock was non-standard.

Not a WinUAE bug.
Fixed version had been uploaded to the zone, if you want it again there, don't hesitate to ask.

Minuous · 14 July 2003, 14:12

In Dogs of War, I am only getting as far as where it says "1 OR 2 PLAYERS?". Nothing seems to have any effect at that point except F1 which goes back to the main menu. I'm using WinUAE and the HD-installed version. I'm not 100% sure it's an emulator bug, but that seems the likely hypothesis...

andreas · 14 July 2003, 15:18

@my "colleague" WindowsKiller:

I'm not that sure, but I think that was the name of the game we had a bigger thread in german-language GAEB with umpteen crap versions but only one working.
Others froze, crashed, well ... anything imaginable happened.

FromWithin · 14 July 2003, 15:22

A little bit off-topic here, but....

There seem to be many different little configuration changes you have to make, depending on the game you are trying to play in WinUAE. Is anyone compiling a big database of the configs (or a list of settings) you need to run each game?

CodyJarrett · 14 July 2003, 15:30

I've considered it in the past, but the problem is that with each emulator update the settings required for a game might change, so you would have to recheck every game to stop the compatibility data getting out of date.

Also, most games do tend to work well in a standard config and with WinUAE compatibility getting better with every release the benefit of a project such as this is dubious.

Not to mention the vast amount of time required to do it, especially if you want to include WinFellow as well as WinUAE. And then compatibility can be improved with WHDLoad and CAPS, so do you use those or normal cracks? And which version of a crack should you use when there are several? Some emulator incompatibilities turn out to be dodgy disks or missing files.

derSammler · 14 July 2003, 15:35

@andreas: Yes, we had a big thread about Dogs of War in (or on ?) the GAEB:

http://www.german-amiga-emu-board.de...7707&boardid=7

You maybe have to press 1 or 2 on the numpad.

andreas · 15 July 2003, 00:42

Quote:

Originally posted by FromWithin
There seem to be many different little configuration changes you have to make, depending on the game you are trying to play in WinUAE. Is anyone compiling a big database of the configs (or a list of settings) you need to run each game?

Good grief!
Never heard of Back 2 The Roots?

P-J · 05 January 2004, 10:08

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas

I don't get this. Point me to problems you encountered with this game, please.
It was working perfectly for me using above config (unlike lots of other games )

I think the theory is this :

Did you have to enable 'Immediate Blits' on your real amiga to play this game?

If not, then it's an emulation problem!

andreas · 21 January 2004, 21:54

Dumb theory.

There's no switch for 'immediate or not' on a real Amiga!

09 February 2003, 18:50	#64
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	FIXED: Liverpool, Murder, Crack Down YEAH! With next public WinUAE release, you will eventually be able to play these three games without silly workarounds in the emulator: - Liverpool - Murder - Crack Down (worked with a bunch of weird settings, but was sometimes system-dependent, so officially, it did NEVER work ) Toni has tracked down some internal weird stuff these games do and implemented a small hack, so that these games work now. Isn't that good news!

10 February 2003, 02:17	#66
Mauro72 Posts: n/a	Sound problems in last WinUAE Hi guys... The question is: Why the sound of many games in WinUAE 088r9 is OK, and the sames games with the same configuration in the WinUAE 0822r4 is wrong with speed variations. The games are many with this problem: Slam Tilt AGA, Rodland and others. In wich part of the last WinUAE is the problem...? Thanks.

10 February 2003, 10:13	#67
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Make sure Use Primary DirectSound Buffer is unticked (off) Attached Thumbnails

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15 October 2002, 08:52	#61
Walker Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 51 Posts: 595	I had no trouble at all with a standard A500 config. Could your problem be related to a certain crack? I used the Skid Row version, but maybe you have the German version cracked by Venture? Hmm...maybe we should hear what the problem is first....

15 October 2002, 13:24	#62
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	You'll get the answer if you re-read everything carefully. The version is not a random version, but a particular one! I should be called stupid if I complained about the SKID ROW version not working on WinUAE That stubborn bastard requiring a special configuration is in the zone.

15 October 2002, 13:30	#63
Walker Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 51 Posts: 595	Ouch! My bad!

09 February 2003, 22:11	#65
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	That's very good news. I never heard of the two of them but crack down was fun.

11 February 2003, 02:48	#68
Mauro72 Posts: n/a	Thanks Paul, but your tip don't work I have tested thats tips many days ago with differents configurations... and the sound is wrong. Is incredible, but in the old WinUAE 088r9 the sound is perfect!!! I don't know. Bye...

11 February 2003, 18:46	#70
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Well, I modestly pass this praise to Toni. Yes, it's U.S. Gold's MURDER I was talking about.

17 March 2003, 10:22	#71
bytestorm Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 36	I have small random graphic glitches in Simon the sorcerer 1 when using the newest version of winuae... (havent tested with older) im using the TOSEC set (aga) could someone please post a proper config? please

14 July 2003, 14:12	#73
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,629	In Dogs of War, I am only getting as far as where it says "1 OR 2 PLAYERS?". Nothing seems to have any effect at that point except F1 which goes back to the main menu. I'm using WinUAE and the HD-installed version. I'm not 100% sure it's an emulator bug, but that seems the likely hypothesis...

14 July 2003, 15:18	#74
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	@my "colleague" WindowsKiller: I'm not that sure, but I think that was the name of the game we had a bigger thread in german-language GAEB with umpteen crap versions but only one working. Others froze, crashed, well ... anything imaginable happened.

14 July 2003, 15:22	#75
FromWithin Music lord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Liverpool, UK Age: 50 Posts: 630	A little bit off-topic here, but.... There seem to be many different little configuration changes you have to make, depending on the game you are trying to play in WinUAE. Is anyone compiling a big database of the configs (or a list of settings) you need to run each game?

14 July 2003, 15:30	#76
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I've considered it in the past, but the problem is that with each emulator update the settings required for a game might change, so you would have to recheck every game to stop the compatibility data getting out of date. Also, most games do tend to work well in a standard config and with WinUAE compatibility getting better with every release the benefit of a project such as this is dubious. Not to mention the vast amount of time required to do it, especially if you want to include WinFellow as well as WinUAE. And then compatibility can be improved with WHDLoad and CAPS, so do you use those or normal cracks? And which version of a crack should you use when there are several? Some emulator incompatibilities turn out to be dodgy disks or missing files.

14 July 2003, 15:35	#77
derSammler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 1,645	@andreas: Yes, we had a big thread about Dogs of War in (or on ?) the GAEB: http://www.german-amiga-emu-board.de...7707&boardid=7 You maybe have to press 1 or 2 on the numpad.

21 January 2004, 21:54	#80
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Dumb theory. There's no switch for 'immediate or not' on a real Amiga!

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