Amiga to Amiga?

Dr. Dude · 25 January 2004, 17:02

As i am running on (DAMM) Win xp. I can't use any link program to make like PC-AMIGA.
Now why not make a ***Amiga*** -Amiga link?

Yes indeed, make a link tru WinUAE. All you need is the corect cable.

And some extra stuf for WinUAE

.

mr_0rga5m · 25 January 2004, 17:22

You can PC-Amiga .. Just have to use Serial .. XP blocks the Parallel (for PC2AM) .. Serial works fine .. I use XP's Hyperterminal (Start->Programs->Accessories->Communications->Hyperterminal) on the PC Side and NComm on the Amiga side.

Bloodwych · 25 January 2004, 19:16

XP seems to block DOS use of the serial and parallel ports, which happens to be what the DOS program PC2Ami uses.

Like Orgy said, a none-dos proggy PC side should work fine in XP.

Dr. Dude · 25 January 2004, 19:59

Yeah, but still

Think of it. WinUAE making a link, passing windows

And you stay *always* on a Amiga. Eh?
(and WinUAE will also be known as a link prog)
(the more it does, the more dude's will use it)*IF IT WORKS GOOD*
So far WinUAE is the best of the best.

Bad Mr Frosty · 25 January 2004, 20:43

You can use parallel on XP, you just have to use a driver to allow direct access to the port. Back when I used to use my Doctor GB or V64 Jr I used a giveio.sys, google is your friend.

Jope · 25 January 2004, 21:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Bad Mr Frosty
You can use parallel on XP, you just have to use a driver to allow direct access to the port. Back when I used to use my Doctor GB or V64 Jr I used a giveio.sys, google is your friend.

Giveio support needs to be in the software.

Try userport on for size (hope the link works)

http://www.embeddedtronics.com/publi...t/UserPort.zip

Dr. Dude · 26 January 2004, 14:48

never mind.
All i say is, why not? eh? It will be great, do evrything whit WinUAE eh?

BippyM · 26 January 2004, 14:51

Because WinUAE uses Windows for file axxs :/

So it'd be like using windows own serial/parrallel i/o which as already discussed doesn't work 100%

Do a search on here and I think there is a thread/posts about linking pc/winuae<->amiga for multiplayer gaming and why it don't work!!

Same principles I guess!

fiath · 26 January 2004, 15:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Jope
Giveio support needs to be in the software.

Try userport on for size (hope the link works)

http://www.embeddedtronics.com/publi...t/UserPort.zip

Cool!

Have you tested this with PC2Amiga parallel?

Dr. Dude · 26 January 2004, 15:35

I have 2 cable's
One of Wierd Science NetWorking
And one of the prog Paradise.

Both have total difrent wiring

Paradise cable :
PC- Amiga
1 -12
2 -2
3 -3
4 -4
5 -5
6 -6
7 -7
8 -8
9 -9
10 is emty
11-11
12 is emty
13 is emty
14 is emty
15 is emty
16 is emty
17-17
18-18
19-19
20-20
21-21
22-22
23-23
24-24
25- 25

The Other is like this
Both same things:
1 -1
2 -15
3 -13
4 -12
5 -10
6 -11
7 is emty
8 is emty
9 is emty
10-5
11-6
12-4
13-3
14-14
15-2
16-16
17-17
18 is emty
19 " "
20 " "
21 " "
22 " "
23 " "
24 " "
25-25

whiteb · 29 January 2004, 01:02

Quote:

Originally posted by fiath
Cool!

Have you tested this with PC2Amiga parallel?

I wanna know too.....

I have a growing disk collection to transfer to my PC for uploading to CAPS and the thought of using LHA and floppies is daunting.

/me mutters something about A1200, PCMCIA, Network card and dongle not working

[edit] i will try it on the wifey's laptop, fingers crossed, because she spilt a drink over it and the internal modem went gay <poof>.
Whilst the laptop loads fine, and works ok, the modem doesnt

</me crosses every appendage

>

whiteb · 29 January 2004, 01:16

Quote:

Originally posted by mr_0rga5m
You can PC-Amiga .. Just have to use Serial .. XP blocks the Parallel (for PC2AM) .. Serial works fine .. I use XP's Hyperterminal (Start->Programs->Accessories->Communications->Hyperterminal) on the PC Side and NComm on the Amiga side.

Serial VS Parallel....

whiteb · 29 January 2004, 04:35

I tried my laplink cable on my Laptop to amiga, using PC2amiga and the userport driver. still no go.

[edit]

EUREKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCREW YOU BILL GATES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rant mode off, ok I got it working by using instructions on the net, formatting a 1.44MB disk in XP as a SYSTEM disk from the format menu, puts an XP DOS on the disk (boots to command prompt). No XP locking the parallel port.

From there you can run PC2AMIGA, and you can access the Hard Drives on the PC too. My next step is to also put PC2AMIGA on my A530's workbench setup. In my latest test with this discovery, I loaded CAPS dumping disk, and I have succesfully dumped a disk through 4 wire Laplink direct.

WOOHOO, it works.........

Dr. Dude · 29 January 2004, 09:00

Hmmmmmm...
Can i fix a network card in my Ami 1200?
hook it up to the Router?
A direct link?

whiteb · 29 January 2004, 09:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Dude
Hmmmmmm...
Can i fix a network card in my Ami 1200?
hook it up to the Router?
A direct link?

Yeah, if you can find a PCMCIA card thats supported by the Cnet driver.

Jope · 29 January 2004, 13:30

Quote:

Originally posted by whiteb
Yeah, if you can find a PCMCIA card thats supported by the Cnet driver.

3c589 cards (etherlink III pcmcia) are very very very common and there's a driver for them on Aminet.

whiteb · 29 January 2004, 21:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Jope
3c589 cards (etherlink III pcmcia) are very very very common and there's a driver for them on Aminet.

/me goes spastic on ebay and bids on every card.

seriously, thats interesting to know. Thx

I had my reservations if they worked... but after downloading the driver and reading its docco's I stand corrected

[edit] but I have to laugh at one......

Item listed as 3COM Etherlink III, pictured is a netcomm, with a Xircomm dongle.

Amiga1992 · 30 January 2004, 02:03

Hmm dunno what you have acomplished but linkup throuhgj WinUAE doesnt work because of bad emulation of CTS/RTS or some shit like that. I asked Toni once about this and I think he can't be arsed to look into that old code.

It would be nice for playing games like Populous or Skidmarks, but not for file transfer, since I bet you can't lift up the transfer rate that much (it barely goes to 115200 under pure DOS with twinexpress)

whiteb · 30 January 2004, 02:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
Hmm dunno what you have acomplished but linkup throuhgj WinUAE doesnt work because of bad emulation of CTS/RTS or some shit like that. I asked Toni once about this and I think he can't be arsed to look into that old code.

It would be nice for playing games like Populous or Skidmarks, but not for file transfer, since I bet you can't lift up the transfer rate that much (it barely goes to 115200 under pure DOS with twinexpress)

Laptop (P3-1Ghz), using an XP created boot disk, running PC2AMIGA in pure DOS mode (NO XP involved)
Connected to amiga A500/A530 (030/40Mhz) via 4wire Laplink cable.

Amiga - PC (Write) 37Kilobyte a second.
PC - Amiga (read) 20Bilobyte a second.

adolescent · 30 January 2004, 07:42

Why not use a program like Amiga Explorer? I've used it for years and it works fine, even with Windows XP.

25 January 2004, 17:02	#1
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	Amiga to Amiga? As i am running on (DAMM) Win xp. I can't use any link program to make like PC-AMIGA. Now why not make a *Amiga* -Amiga link? Yes indeed, make a link tru WinUAE. All you need is the corect cable. And some extra stuf for WinUAE.

26 January 2004, 14:48	#7
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	DOH never mind. All i say is, why not? eh? It will be great, do evrything whit WinUAE eh?

29 January 2004, 04:35	#13
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	I tried my laplink cable on my Laptop to amiga, using PC2amiga and the userport driver. still no go. [edit] EUREKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SCREW YOU BILL GATES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rant mode off, ok I got it working by using instructions on the net, formatting a 1.44MB disk in XP as a SYSTEM disk from the format menu, puts an XP DOS on the disk (boots to command prompt). No XP locking the parallel port. From there you can run PC2AMIGA, and you can access the Hard Drives on the PC too. My next step is to also put PC2AMIGA on my A530's workbench setup. In my latest test with this discovery, I loaded CAPS dumping disk, and I have succesfully dumped a disk through 4 wire Laplink direct. WOOHOO, it works......... Last edited by whiteb; 29 January 2004 at 10:44.

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25 January 2004, 17:22	#2
mr_0rga5m Tik Gora :D Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Round yo momma's Posts: 1,273	You can PC-Amiga .. Just have to use Serial .. XP blocks the Parallel (for PC2AM) .. Serial works fine .. I use XP's Hyperterminal (Start->Programs->Accessories->Communications->Hyperterminal) on the PC Side and NComm on the Amiga side.

25 January 2004, 19:16	#3
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	XP seems to block DOS use of the serial and parallel ports, which happens to be what the DOS program PC2Ami uses. Like Orgy said, a none-dos proggy PC side should work fine in XP.

25 January 2004, 19:59	#4
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	Yeah, but still Think of it. WinUAE making a link, passing windows And you stay always on a Amiga. Eh? (and WinUAE will also be known as a link prog) (the more it does, the more dude's will use it)IF IT WORKS GOOD So far WinUAE is the best of the best.

25 January 2004, 20:43	#5
Bad Mr Frosty Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Praha / Ceska Republika Age: 45 Posts: 107	You can use parallel on XP, you just have to use a driver to allow direct access to the port. Back when I used to use my Doctor GB or V64 Jr I used a giveio.sys, google is your friend.

26 January 2004, 14:51	#8
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Because WinUAE uses Windows for file axxs :/ So it'd be like using windows own serial/parrallel i/o which as already discussed doesn't work 100% Do a search on here and I think there is a thread/posts about linking pc/winuae<->amiga for multiplayer gaming and why it don't work!! Same principles I guess!

26 January 2004, 15:35	#10
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	I have 2 cable's One of Wierd Science NetWorking And one of the prog Paradise. Both have total difrent wiring Paradise cable : PC- Amiga 1 -12 2 -2 3 -3 4 -4 5 -5 6 -6 7 -7 8 -8 9 -9 10 is emty 11-11 12 is emty 13 is emty 14 is emty 15 is emty 16 is emty 17-17 18-18 19-19 20-20 21-21 22-22 23-23 24-24 25- 25 The Other is like this Both same things: 1 -1 2 -15 3 -13 4 -12 5 -10 6 -11 7 is emty 8 is emty 9 is emty 10-5 11-6 12-4 13-3 14-14 15-2 16-16 17-17 18 is emty 19 " " 20 " " 21 " " 22 " " 23 " " 24 " " 25-25

29 January 2004, 09:00	#14
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	Hmmmmmm... Can i fix a network card in my Ami 1200? hook it up to the Router? A direct link?

30 January 2004, 02:03	#18
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Hmm dunno what you have acomplished but linkup throuhgj WinUAE doesnt work because of bad emulation of CTS/RTS or some shit like that. I asked Toni once about this and I think he can't be arsed to look into that old code. It would be nice for playing games like Populous or Skidmarks, but not for file transfer, since I bet you can't lift up the transfer rate that much (it barely goes to 115200 under pure DOS with twinexpress)

30 January 2004, 07:42	#20
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	Why not use a program like Amiga Explorer? I've used it for years and it works fine, even with Windows XP.

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