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dlfrsilver · 31 March 2007, 16:11

Richard Joseph was accused by Mark Cale to delaying the game deadline,
and richard has sued Mark Cale to the court.

Richard himself told it to me as i asked him about Putty Squad.

I think it's the main reason of the cancelation of the game.

MethodGit · 31 March 2007, 16:47

Richard Joseph as in the one who recently passed away?

Is this court case still ongoing?

dlfrsilver · 31 March 2007, 17:23

Yes our Richard.... it finished, but he didn't tell me about the consequences,
and i think that the team involved in the creation of this game doesn't want
to talk about what happened....

7-Zark-7 · 02 April 2007, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

Sorry if I let ya down, man.......... I'd feel the same too though if someone had bumped the thread up!

I'm not too sure if John Twiddy is that difficult to get in contact with in all honesty - I believe Retro Gamer interviewed him for their Last Ninja article?

They did, but if I recall the guts of said interview,they'd actually remarked how difficult it was tracking down John Twiddy,& the fact it was basically conducted by email at that.

I think its fair to say that it seems like between various attempts to politely attempt a Snow Bros like miracle have hit the proverbial wall of China, sadly.

MethodGit · 03 April 2007, 00:04

Well one of the RG staff - Craig Grannell - frequents the World of Stuart forum so I might ask him for the lowdown and all.

7-Zark-7 · 05 April 2007, 15:43

Actually just caught up with the interview you'd mentioned about MethodGit. I hadn't been aware of the (newer), interview 'til then-I'd recalled an older interview mainly with John Twiddy a few months ago,(wherein the "difficulty" finding him was mentioned).
Whilst the screenshots on LN4 look okayish, I have to wonder at the attempts to make new-age remixes of LN, & the old Epyx games etc. They're fantastic C64 games-but like a movie remake you remain wary. We'll probably see Putty end up on handheld next,(so woe betide a release of the Amiga game for free download).

MethodGit · 06 April 2007, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7-Zark-7

We'll probably see Putty end up on handheld next,(so woe betide a release of the Amiga game for free download).

That's if they ever make the effort to bring that out in the end. Remember the planned PS2 port?

7-Zark-7 · 11 April 2007, 16:40

Very (sadly) true, but I think the AGTW write up sums things up in a stalemate- if there's the perceived idea that it could be remade onto another platform (potentially) in the future be it the would-be Ps2 or any other console, it gives them a very convenient "out" to prevent a "free" version being released. Though you have to wonder at the motives of certain person(s), whom feel that way about an-age old unreleased amiga game.

BobRedthorp · 16 June 2007, 14:51

I just received the latest issue (39) of Retro Gamer in the post today and it has a feature covering the making of Putty, nice article with feedback from Dan Phillips, Mark Cale and others.

On a side note the Amiga 500 is the main feature this month.

Graham Humphrey · 16 June 2007, 14:52

Is there anything about Putty Squad in there?

BobRedthorp · 16 June 2007, 14:57

Sure, its not a huge part of the report but there is a side column commenting on its completion for its 'intended machine' the Amiga 1200, but never released.

Mark Cale explains the reason why etc etc, he does say some promising stuff for the Amiga community reguarding it actually!

EDIT: Am I aloud to write what is says as I don't think this issue is out to buy in the shops yet??

BippyM · 16 June 2007, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobRedthorp

EDIT: Am I aloud to write what is says as I don't think this issue is out to buy in the shops yet??

Sure

BobRedthorp · 16 June 2007, 18:15

Okay, heres the side column:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro Gamer - issue 39

AMIGA RELEASE IMMINENT

Although Putty Squad was completed by System 3 and favourably reviewed in Amiga magazines, it was never released for its intended machine, the A1200.

That has left some Amiga fans tearing out their hair in a desperate attempt to find a copy.

What happened? System 3 boss Mark Cale says: “We just felt there wasn’t an Amiga market at that time so we didn’t want to go to the expense of manufacturing and distributing the game. I made the decision to can it.” So where is the game? “Its locked away and it’s unlikely it will be released soon, certainly not for profit. I wouldn’t charge for it – that wouldn’t be fair after all this time.”

When pushed, however, he added: “Releasing it is something I may look at further down the line, perhaps as a freebie on our website but at the moment there are no plans. I would want to see a strong Amiga emulator running the program in the way intended before I consider it.” There is no way the original C64 Putty will be released, however: “The code just wasn’t of the quality expected at System 3”

Well perhaps one day then

The rest of the article about the making of Putty is on a 4 page spread, if I had a scanner I would scan it.

EDIT: I'd also like to add that in another side column where the SNES and Amiga versions of Putty Squad are compared, Nick Lee, one of the artists said they added a lot more cosmetic detail to the Amiga version.

It aslo says they are releasing a new version of Putty on the PSP and DS, but by taking the concept and creating something new.

DamienD · 16 June 2007, 18:33

This is cool news but...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro Gamer - issue 39

“...I would want to see a strong Amiga emulator running the program in the way intended before I consider it.”

What the does this mean??? Has Mark not heard of WinUAE???

He should try running Putty Squad via WinUAE to see how well it runs

BobRedthorp · 16 June 2007, 18:34

I know, thats what I couldnt understand

derSammler · 16 June 2007, 18:40

Was there anything said about the PC and Genesis versions as well?

Graham Humphrey · 16 June 2007, 18:40

How well does the Putty Squad demo run under WinUAE? If that runs well then there's a good chance the full game will...

Mad-Matt · 16 June 2007, 18:53

a preconfiged uae and demo that can be unarced and ran direct to game should be archived and sent to the developer to prove its worth

BobRedthorp · 16 June 2007, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by WindowsKiller

Was there anything said about the PC and Genesis versions as well?

No, nothing

whitegiant89 · 17 June 2007, 03:17

Is there any chance of someone uping putty squad demo to the zone again if its out there.

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31 March 2007, 16:11	#101
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Richard Joseph was accused by Mark Cale to delaying the game deadline, and richard has sued Mark Cale to the court. Richard himself told it to me as i asked him about Putty Squad. I think it's the main reason of the cancelation of the game.

31 March 2007, 16:47	#102
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Richard Joseph as in the one who recently passed away? Is this court case still ongoing?

31 March 2007, 17:23	#103
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Yes our Richard.... it finished, but he didn't tell me about the consequences, and i think that the team involved in the creation of this game doesn't want to talk about what happened....

03 April 2007, 00:04	#105
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Well one of the RG staff - Craig Grannell - frequents the World of Stuart forum so I might ask him for the lowdown and all.

05 April 2007, 15:43	#106
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Actually just caught up with the interview you'd mentioned about MethodGit. I hadn't been aware of the (newer), interview 'til then-I'd recalled an older interview mainly with John Twiddy a few months ago,(wherein the "difficulty" finding him was mentioned). Whilst the screenshots on LN4 look okayish, I have to wonder at the attempts to make new-age remixes of LN, & the old Epyx games etc. They're fantastic C64 games-but like a movie remake you remain wary. We'll probably see Putty end up on handheld next,(so woe betide a release of the Amiga game for free download).

11 April 2007, 16:40	#108
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Very (sadly) true, but I think the AGTW write up sums things up in a stalemate- if there's the perceived idea that it could be remade onto another platform (potentially) in the future be it the would-be Ps2 or any other console, it gives them a very convenient "out" to prevent a "free" version being released. Though you have to wonder at the motives of certain person(s), whom feel that way about an-age old unreleased amiga game.

16 June 2007, 14:51	#109
BobRedthorp Huge member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glasgow, UK Age: 41 Posts: 303	I just received the latest issue (39) of Retro Gamer in the post today and it has a feature covering the making of Putty, nice article with feedback from Dan Phillips, Mark Cale and others. On a side note the Amiga 500 is the main feature this month.

16 June 2007, 14:52	#110
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Is there anything about Putty Squad in there?

16 June 2007, 18:34	#115
BobRedthorp Huge member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glasgow, UK Age: 41 Posts: 303	I know, thats what I couldnt understand

16 June 2007, 18:40	#116
derSammler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 1,645	Was there anything said about the PC and Genesis versions as well?

16 June 2007, 18:40	#117
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	How well does the Putty Squad demo run under WinUAE? If that runs well then there's a good chance the full game will...

16 June 2007, 18:53	#118
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,848	a preconfiged uae and demo that can be unarced and ran direct to game should be archived and sent to the developer to prove its worth

17 June 2007, 03:17	#120
whitegiant89 Lone CBM user Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atherton / Australia Age: 52 Posts: 148	Is there any chance of someone uping putty squad demo to the zone again if its out there.

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