ClassicWB Menu Widget

spacebiscuit · 12 January 2023, 16:14

Does anyone know what this widget is that comes pre-installed on ClassicWB 68k

I'm considering upgrading to OS 3.2 but I like this menu widget, is it something that can be configured or installed on v3.2

Thanks!

van_dammesque · 12 January 2023, 16:18

Is it 'BMX' by Oliver Roberts?

itsmedoofer · 12 January 2023, 16:23

I've not tried it myself but for 3.2 you may want to have a look at BestClassicWB, I would imagine that will have a lot of the same functionality that you are used to in ClassicWB...

Failing that, looking in the WBStartup drawer and user-startup will give you a clue as to what tools you currently enjoy...

AMIGASYSTEM · 12 January 2023, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacebiscuit

I'm considering upgrading to OS 3.2 but I like this menu widget, is it something that can be configured or installed on v3.2
Thanks!

BMX runs smoothly on OS.2, you find everything in the SYS:System/BMenu folder.

The icons you have on Workbench are copied from the .backdrop file you find in the root.

The biggest problem is the assignments and paths to the files you'll need to run, which must be in the same path assigned on ClassicWB, otherwise you'll have to change everything.

eispic · 13 January 2023, 11:17

Could someone provide me AmigaOS #### with ClassicWB ADVSP as .HDF, contact with PN. A1200 #### Thanks

Do not request software still being sold, get your wallet out and support those that are still working on the Amiga

spacebiscuit · 13 January 2023, 18:34

Thanks guys - BestClassicWB looks very cool - i'll give that a go once I get around to upgrading my WB version.

In the screenshot the resolution looks super-hi-res

Is it the 3.2.1 OS that makes that possible? I read that the A600 has a maximum resolution of 1448×556 so I guess it cannot be the hardware giving this headache inducing output which I see when I try super-hi-res.

What is causing this and can I expect a screen like the first screenshot above with workbench 3.2?

arcanist · 13 January 2023, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacebiscuit

In the screenshot the resolution looks super-hi-res

The screenshot has dimensions 640x512.

A600 can do that with PAL Hi-Res Interlaced mode, although it would flicker. If you have a 31kHz-capable monitor then DblPAL (from Storage:Monitors) would give the same resolution at 50Hz without flicker.

AMIGASYSTEM · 13 January 2023, 19:58

spacebiscuit,you did not specify what Amiga you are using, or if you are using an Emulator.

In addition to the resolution you also need to set the maximum colors available

Peter · 13 January 2023, 20:43

Don't want to hijack a thread but one quick question... once you have created your own menu is it just a question of putting it into WB start up folder for it to start on boot up or do you need to put any other files elsewhere?

AMIGASYSTEM · 13 January 2023, 20:51

No the WBstartup has nothing to do with those menus, if you mean the Run icons, Files, games etc... those icons are just shortcuts that are in the .backdrop file that is in the Root.

Anything that is placed in the .backdrop file, will be iconized on the Workbench, then clicking on those icons will execute a script that will atriate the menu.

Peter · 13 January 2023, 21:21

How does it run at start up then? As far as I remember (I haven't used Classic workbench for a while) doesn't it just appear on the workbench screen when it first boots (or maybe it doesn't and my memory is going...!!?)

AMIGASYSTEM · 13 January 2023, 21:27

If you are referring to the installation of the ClassicWB, its HardFile as soon as it starts requires the installation of the Operating System.

ClassicWB's Hardfile does not include the Operating System but only the Third Party Applications.

I attach a video of mine showing how to install ClassiWB.

[ Show youtube player ]

spacebiscuit · 14 January 2023, 01:33

In answer to the question about which Amiga I am using, I have an a600 and I have emulation setup. In both cases at high-res the quality looks a bit crappy.

The A600 has the rbg2hdmi mod running.

AMIGASYSTEM · 14 January 2023, 01:55

If you use emulation and have OS 3.2, forget about Amiga 600, emulate a nice A4000 040/060 and 256/512 MB RAM, you will have great speed, you can run all Applications at your best and if you like to play games, WHDload games will go much better.

If you then want a nice Workbench even better than the screenshot use uun RTG system with UAE-GFX Graphics Card with 256 MB

spacebiscuit · 14 January 2023, 11:54

I've set my emulator per my A600, this is what I get with super hi-res laced:

Hi-res laced is a little better:

But in both cases the screen looks a little squashed. As mentioned I have rgb2hdmi on the real Amiga. What are the optimal settings I can expect to use? A600 has stock 2.05 kickstart and I'm running ClassicWB 68k for now.

mfilos · 14 January 2023, 17:43

You're using MagicWB icons that needs 8 colors and specific locked palette to look good.
Just change the screenmode to support 8 colors and either use FullPalette with MagicWB colors or use http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/Palette
Also changing icon and screen font via Prefs/Font like for example helvetica 13 will give a lot better results as topaz 8 for hi-res laced is a bit weird :P

spacebiscuit · 16 January 2023, 20:16

Good information - thanks I'll look into this.

12 January 2023, 16:14	#1
spacebiscuit Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: UK Posts: 112	ClassicWB Menu Widget Does anyone know what this widget is that comes pre-installed on ClassicWB 68k I'm considering upgrading to OS 3.2 but I like this menu widget, is it something that can be configured or installed on v3.2 Thanks!

13 January 2023, 11:17	#5
eispic Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Paradies / Sky Posts: 56	Could someone provide me AmigaOS #### with ClassicWB ADVSP as .HDF, contact with PN. A1200 #### Thanks Do not request software still being sold, get your wallet out and support those that are still working on the Amiga Last edited by Ian; 13 January 2023 at 18:22.

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12 January 2023, 16:18	#2
van_dammesque Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: England Posts: 228	Is it 'BMX' by Oliver Roberts?

12 January 2023, 16:23	#3
itsmedoofer Registered User Join Date: May 2021 Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 124	I've not tried it myself but for 3.2 you may want to have a look at BestClassicWB, I would imagine that will have a lot of the same functionality that you are used to in ClassicWB... Failing that, looking in the WBStartup drawer and user-startup will give you a clue as to what tools you currently enjoy...

13 January 2023, 18:34	#6
spacebiscuit Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: UK Posts: 112	Thanks guys - BestClassicWB looks very cool - i'll give that a go once I get around to upgrading my WB version. In the screenshot the resolution looks super-hi-res Is it the 3.2.1 OS that makes that possible? I read that the A600 has a maximum resolution of 1448×556 so I guess it cannot be the hardware giving this headache inducing output which I see when I try super-hi-res. What is causing this and can I expect a screen like the first screenshot above with workbench 3.2?

13 January 2023, 19:58	#8
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	spacebiscuit,you did not specify what Amiga you are using, or if you are using an Emulator. In addition to the resolution you also need to set the maximum colors available

13 January 2023, 20:43	#9
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	Don't want to hijack a thread but one quick question... once you have created your own menu is it just a question of putting it into WB start up folder for it to start on boot up or do you need to put any other files elsewhere?

13 January 2023, 20:51	#10
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	No the WBstartup has nothing to do with those menus, if you mean the Run icons, Files, games etc... those icons are just shortcuts that are in the .backdrop file that is in the Root. Anything that is placed in the .backdrop file, will be iconized on the Workbench, then clicking on those icons will execute a script that will atriate the menu.

13 January 2023, 21:21	#11
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	How does it run at start up then? As far as I remember (I haven't used Classic workbench for a while) doesn't it just appear on the workbench screen when it first boots (or maybe it doesn't and my memory is going...!!?)

13 January 2023, 21:27	#12
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	If you are referring to the installation of the ClassicWB, its HardFile as soon as it starts requires the installation of the Operating System. ClassicWB's Hardfile does not include the Operating System but only the Third Party Applications. I attach a video of mine showing how to install ClassiWB. [ Show youtube player ]

14 January 2023, 01:33	#13
spacebiscuit Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: UK Posts: 112	In answer to the question about which Amiga I am using, I have an a600 and I have emulation setup. In both cases at high-res the quality looks a bit crappy. The A600 has the rbg2hdmi mod running.

14 January 2023, 01:55	#14
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	If you use emulation and have OS 3.2, forget about Amiga 600, emulate a nice A4000 040/060 and 256/512 MB RAM, you will have great speed, you can run all Applications at your best and if you like to play games, WHDload games will go much better. If you then want a nice Workbench even better than the screenshot use uun RTG system with UAE-GFX Graphics Card with 256 MB

14 January 2023, 11:54	#15
spacebiscuit Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: UK Posts: 112	I've set my emulator per my A600, this is what I get with super hi-res laced: Hi-res laced is a little better: But in both cases the screen looks a little squashed. As mentioned I have rgb2hdmi on the real Amiga. What are the optimal settings I can expect to use? A600 has stock 2.05 kickstart and I'm running ClassicWB 68k for now.

14 January 2023, 17:43	#16
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	You're using MagicWB icons that needs 8 colors and specific locked palette to look good. Just change the screenmode to support 8 colors and either use FullPalette with MagicWB colors or use http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/Palette Also changing icon and screen font via Prefs/Font like for example helvetica 13 will give a lot better results as topaz 8 for hi-res laced is a bit weird :P

16 January 2023, 20:16	#17
spacebiscuit Registered User Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: UK Posts: 112	Good information - thanks I'll look into this.

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