Simon the Sorcerer II - AGA - Page 2

tygre · 15 April 2020, 23:36

Dear DamienD, thank you so much!

Amazing

Cheers!

manossg · 16 April 2020, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Check your PMs tygre

...an archive with the configuration file and .HDF; no CD-ROM needed.

Also, as a side note, if you press <T> within the game you can see the speech text.

Any chance you could share this juicy hdf?

Thanks!

DamienD · 16 April 2020, 10:34

I can't share on EAB as it's not a bare-bones .HDF; couldn't be bothered trying to work out Fonts / Libs etc...

Therefore it's a WB 3.1 install with the game added (all data copied from the CD-ROM and Assigns used so that the CD-ROM isn't required).

Anyway, check you PMs

manossg · 16 April 2020, 11:03

You rock, DamienD!

ancalimon · 23 May 2020, 17:00

Unfortunately the Amiga version does not have a midi driver thus there was no music.

Aladin · 23 May 2020, 17:05

there is only the executable which is different from the pc version. As well as voice files. on the other hand the file Simon2.gme (20Mo) is the same as on PC

alpyre · 11 July 2020, 11:24

I've tested this game on my Amigas. Here are my advice:

1- DO NOT update. Applying the patch Simon2Upd5 makes the game crash when you approach the castle.
2- Always choose Paula: 14bit stereo++ 24000 Hz at game start. That gives the best audio and even prevents some graphic glitches (don't know how and why but is really so).
3- Use PAL 320x256 (or NTSC 320x200 if you have an NTSC machine) even if you have a graphics card. RTG mode in this game lacks color animations.

Good luck.

Akiko · 11 July 2020, 15:34

I guess it must be incredibly difficult to add those midi files to the game otherwise it would probably be done by now?

The original Simon the Sorcerer was my favourite CD32 game, and it and Beneath a Steel Sky were why I fell in love with that system. I always kinda stuck my nose up at Simon the Sorcerer II knowing the music was missing from the Amiga version.

If when the TF360 is released I think this is the first game I will play on the CD32 thru Scumm, would much rather play the native Amiga version but seems a bit pointless without the music track which is how the original game developers meant it to be played.

Mad-Matt · 11 July 2020, 15:54

The midi file are in the game. The game just does nothing with them. I cant remember which package had it, but there is a tool to play the files. It was either Timidity++ or Amidi. Outside of the game of course so still not very useful.

TuKo · 11 July 2020, 18:06

For what's it's worth, there is a V1.06 patch available here, dated from 2002 :
https://web.archive.org/web/20071012...migaUpdate.lha

NovaCoder · 12 July 2020, 04:30

And don't forget that you can obviously play this game (and many others) with full 256 color AGA graphics and MIDI sound using ScummVM AGA...

[ Show youtube player ]

tygre · 12 July 2020, 04:58

Hi all!

I just started playing StSII thanks to storm Fay

I choose also Paula: 14bit stereo++ 24000 Hz but the sound volume is very low, I must set my PC volume to 100% to hear the sound, barely. Any idea?

@NovaCoder, very impressive video! I'm not familiar with ScummVM AGA (or otherwise). Which version of StSII are you playing in it?

Cheers!

NovaCoder · 12 July 2020, 05:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by tygre

Hi all!

I just started playing StSII thanks to storm Fay

I choose also Paula: 14bit stereo++ 24000 Hz but the sound volume is very low, I must set my PC volume to 100% to hear the sound, barely. Any idea?

@NovaCoder, very impressive video! I'm not familiar with ScummVM AGA (or otherwise). Which version of StSII are you playing in it?

Cheers!

Thanks

Yes I spent many months porting over scummvm using a native AGA back-end to get it running at a good speed.

In the video I used PC CDROM VGA versions of the game data files but you can actually use any platform data you want including C64 or Amiga data

[ Show youtube player ]

tygre · 12 July 2020, 05:36

Hey NovaCoder!

So if I could find a PC VGA version of StSII, I could play it "directly" via ScummVM AGA? Did I understand correctly?

Cheers!

NovaCoder · 12 July 2020, 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by tygre

Hey NovaCoder!

So if I could find a PC VGA version of StSII, I could play it "directly" via ScummVM AGA? Did I understand correctly?

Cheers!

Yes you got the idea

alpyre · 12 July 2020, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuKo

For what's it's worth, there is a V1.06 patch available here, dated from 2002 :
https://web.archive.org/web/20071012...migaUpdate.lha

Great this update works great. No crashes and even animations are smoother now.
Thanks for the link. Why is it not on Aminet though?

DamienD · 12 July 2020, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuKo

For what's it's worth, there is a V1.06 patch available here, dated from 2002 :
https://web.archive.org/web/20071012...migaUpdate.lha

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpyre

Great this update works great. No crashes and even animations are smoother now.
Thanks for the link. Why is it not on Aminet though?

This is also the update that I use

Have you read the ".guide" file though? Apparently the AGA version is just "Update 5":

I've never had the issue you mentioned though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpyre

1- DO NOT update. Applying the patch Simon2Upd5 makes the game crash when you approach the castle.

alpyre · 12 July 2020, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

This is also the update that I use

Have you read the ".guide" file though? Apparently the AGA version is just "Update 5":

Yes, I've read it. Even it says the files are identical, the update from Simon2Upd5.lha from Aminet crashes every time when entered Castle screen. Maybe the archive is corrupt... or the files aren't identical as mentioned. I don't know.

Apollon · 21 January 2023, 01:44

hi guys i am looking for the game, how do i get into the EAB server?

mrv2k · 21 January 2023, 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollon

hi guys i am looking for the game, how do i get into the EAB server?

http://ftp2.grandis.nu/eabsearch/

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15 April 2020, 23:36	#21
tygre Returning fan! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montréal, QC, Canada Posts: 1,434	Dear DamienD, thank you so much! Amazing Cheers!

16 April 2020, 10:34	#23
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I can't share on EAB as it's not a bare-bones .HDF; couldn't be bothered trying to work out Fonts / Libs etc... Therefore it's a WB 3.1 install with the game added (all data copied from the CD-ROM and Assigns used so that the CD-ROM isn't required). Anyway, check you PMs

16 April 2020, 11:03	#24
manossg Registered User Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Greece Posts: 992	You rock, DamienD!

23 May 2020, 17:00	#25
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,410	Unfortunately the Amiga version does not have a midi driver thus there was no music.

23 May 2020, 17:05	#26
Aladin Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: France Posts: 854	there is only the executable which is different from the pc version. As well as voice files. on the other hand the file Simon2.gme (20Mo) is the same as on PC

11 July 2020, 11:24	#27
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	I've tested this game on my Amigas. Here are my advice: 1- DO NOT update. Applying the patch Simon2Upd5 makes the game crash when you approach the castle. 2- Always choose Paula: 14bit stereo++ 24000 Hz at game start. That gives the best audio and even prevents some graphic glitches (don't know how and why but is really so). 3- Use PAL 320x256 (or NTSC 320x200 if you have an NTSC machine) even if you have a graphics card. RTG mode in this game lacks color animations. Good luck.

11 July 2020, 15:34	#28
Akiko Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 249	I guess it must be incredibly difficult to add those midi files to the game otherwise it would probably be done by now? The original Simon the Sorcerer was my favourite CD32 game, and it and Beneath a Steel Sky were why I fell in love with that system. I always kinda stuck my nose up at Simon the Sorcerer II knowing the music was missing from the Amiga version. If when the TF360 is released I think this is the first game I will play on the CD32 thru Scumm, would much rather play the native Amiga version but seems a bit pointless without the music track which is how the original game developers meant it to be played.

11 July 2020, 15:54	#29
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	The midi file are in the game. The game just does nothing with them. I cant remember which package had it, but there is a tool to play the files. It was either Timidity++ or Amidi. Outside of the game of course so still not very useful.

11 July 2020, 18:06	#30
TuKo Apollo Team Join Date: May 2014 Location: not far Posts: 379	For what's it's worth, there is a V1.06 patch available here, dated from 2002 : https://web.archive.org/web/20071012...migaUpdate.lha

12 July 2020, 04:30	#31
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	And don't forget that you can obviously play this game (and many others) with full 256 color AGA graphics and MIDI sound using ScummVM AGA... [ Show youtube player ]

12 July 2020, 04:58	#32
tygre Returning fan! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montréal, QC, Canada Posts: 1,434	Hi all! I just started playing StSII thanks to storm Fay I choose also Paula: 14bit stereo++ 24000 Hz but the sound volume is very low, I must set my PC volume to 100% to hear the sound, barely. Any idea? @NovaCoder, very impressive video! I'm not familiar with ScummVM AGA (or otherwise). Which version of StSII are you playing in it? Cheers!

12 July 2020, 05:36	#34
tygre Returning fan! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montréal, QC, Canada Posts: 1,434	Hey NovaCoder! So if I could find a PC VGA version of StSII, I could play it "directly" via ScummVM AGA? Did I understand correctly? Cheers!

21 January 2023, 01:44	#39
Apollon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: NRW/Germany Posts: 31	hi guys i am looking for the game, how do i get into the EAB server?

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