Ambermoon whdload ? - Page 3

alexh · 07 May 2009, 10:30

Amberworlds became Albion.

Thalion cannot provide any more unreleased work because their Amiga 2000 backup server was accidentally left behind (and subsequently thrown away) several years ago when Eric Simon left Bluebyte.

meynaf · 09 May 2009, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Amberworlds became Albion.

But it's not the same story ! I've seen Albion long ago on the PC and it wasn't about Lyramion.

alexh · 09 May 2009, 11:59

Parts of the story, the improved 3D engine, some of the graphics became BlueByte's Albion. There was going to be an Amiga version of Albion at first, the A1200 demo's (there are two of them) are available.

http://web.archive.org/web/199710220...es/amidung.htm

http://aminet.net/package/game/demo/albion

They could not use the characters or place names from the Amber universe because they still belonged to Thalion.

meynaf · 11 May 2009, 09:42

And, of course, there is no source code left of it ?

alexh · 11 May 2009, 10:07

Not unless the individual authors kept a copy. The office server was thrown away as I said.

hexaae · 12 May 2009, 16:14

...yes... the 3D engine in Albion was quite good: nice shadings, fast, 256 colors. Much better than Ambermoon.

alexh · 12 May 2009, 17:59

I take it you mean the PC version and not the A1200 demo?

hexaae · 12 May 2009, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

I take it you mean the PC version and not the A1200 demo?

I mean that the Amiga Albion demo, the 3D maze, was very good... a big improvement over Ambermoon's 3D...

alexh · 12 May 2009, 20:37

Oh, ok.

MethodGit · 12 May 2009, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Parts of the story, the improved 3D engine, some of the graphics became BlueByte's Albion. There was going to be an Amiga version of Albion at first, the A1200 demo's (there are two of them) are available.

http://web.archive.org/web/199710220...es/amidung.htm

http://aminet.net/package/game/demo/albion

They could not use the characters or place names from the Amber universe because they still belonged to Thalion.

Shame Archive.org didn't preserve the first demo.

Although are we sure two different demos existed? Since the readme for the Aminet one links to that same page.

alexh · 12 May 2009, 21:04

One of the demo is of an inside dungeon with innocuous textures, could be any 3D dungeon demo.

The other is outside and uses the textures and characters even HUD you see in Albion on the PC.

There are screenshots of both in HOL

http://hol.abime.net/5117/screenshot

seuden · 16 November 2011, 12:38

A WHDLoad version would be great for my modded Xbox 1, just saying.

alexh · 16 November 2011, 16:50

What for? The Thalion HD installer which ships with the game works fine surely?

seuden · 16 November 2011, 23:27

I'll have a look, it was mainly for this.

meynaf · 17 November 2011, 09:41

HDF creator, eh ?
It shouldn't be too difficult to build an HDF for Ambermoon directly. Follow the instructions from that thread, and just skip whdload parts.

Gordon · 17 November 2011, 09:50

It would be a great christmas if a WHDLOAD install for ambermoon is released AND alex releases his walkthrough for it. *wink wink*

meynaf · 17 November 2011, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

It would be a great christmas if a WHDLOAD install for ambermoon is released AND alex releases his walkthrough for it. *wink wink*

Why do people insist upon getting a whdload install for a game that does NOT need it ???

Gordon · 17 November 2011, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Why do people insist upon getting a whdload install for a game that does NOT need it ???

It doesnt NEED it but it has little bonuses
like :

It works nicely with game launchers like iGame and AGLAUNCH.
Has PRELOAD functionality.
Easy to quit.

However Im not INSISTING on it because I dont play it anymore as I find it too difficult

(

alexh · 17 November 2011, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

It doesnt NEED it

No it doesn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

but it has little bonuses like : It works nicely with game launchers like iGame and AGLAUNCH.

Eh, the time it takes you to click on the iGame icon and look up the game you may as well have clicked on the icon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

Has PRELOAD functionality.

PRELOAD is for non OS legal games to buffer the entire game into memory to prevent WHDLoad OS context switching. The Ambermoon HD installer is OS legal, supports HD caching if enabled. Preload is not needed! It will run as smooth as any Preload WHDLoad slave.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

Easy to quit.

Vs, right click, left click, left click. Jebus you lazy git!

Dwyloc · 18 November 2011, 15:15

@alexh
I would have said the main reason for doing a WHDLoad version would be to provide bug fixes for the original in an easy to install way.

But I expect that just bundling up the bug fixes for the regular released versions and giving them an installer and uploading it to aminet would be just as good.

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07 May 2009, 10:30	#41
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Amberworlds became Albion. Thalion cannot provide any more unreleased work because their Amiga 2000 backup server was accidentally left behind (and subsequently thrown away) several years ago when Eric Simon left Bluebyte.

09 May 2009, 11:59	#43
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Parts of the story, the improved 3D engine, some of the graphics became BlueByte's Albion. There was going to be an Amiga version of Albion at first, the A1200 demo's (there are two of them) are available. http://web.archive.org/web/199710220...es/amidung.htm http://aminet.net/package/game/demo/albion They could not use the characters or place names from the Amber universe because they still belonged to Thalion.

11 May 2009, 09:42	#44
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	And, of course, there is no source code left of it ?

11 May 2009, 10:07	#45
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Not unless the individual authors kept a copy. The office server was thrown away as I said.

12 May 2009, 16:14	#46
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	...yes... the 3D engine in Albion was quite good: nice shadings, fast, 256 colors. Much better than Ambermoon.

12 May 2009, 17:59	#47
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I take it you mean the PC version and not the A1200 demo?

12 May 2009, 20:37	#49
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Oh, ok.

12 May 2009, 21:04	#51
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	One of the demo is of an inside dungeon with innocuous textures, could be any 3D dungeon demo. The other is outside and uses the textures and characters even HUD you see in Albion on the PC. There are screenshots of both in HOL http://hol.abime.net/5117/screenshot

16 November 2011, 12:38	#52
seuden uber cool demi god Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent/England Posts: 2,073	A WHDLoad version would be great for my modded Xbox 1, just saying.

16 November 2011, 16:50	#53
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	What for? The Thalion HD installer which ships with the game works fine surely?

16 November 2011, 23:27	#54
seuden uber cool demi god Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent/England Posts: 2,073	I'll have a look, it was mainly for this.

17 November 2011, 09:41	#55
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	HDF creator, eh ? It shouldn't be too difficult to build an HDF for Ambermoon directly. Follow the instructions from that thread, and just skip whdload parts.

17 November 2011, 09:50	#56
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	It would be a great christmas if a WHDLOAD install for ambermoon is released AND alex releases his walkthrough for it. wink wink

18 November 2011, 15:15	#60
Dwyloc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Age: 47 Posts: 81	@alexh I would have said the main reason for doing a WHDLoad version would be to provide bug fixes for the original in an easy to install way. But I expect that just bundling up the bug fixes for the regular released versions and giving them an installer and uploading it to aminet would be just as good.

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