AmigaOS 3.2 released! - Page 2

fatbob_gb · 14 May 2021, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by tygre

Thanks Gulliver and FatBob_GB!

(There is a list of dealers somewhere?)

https://www.hyperion-entertainment.c...to-buy/dealers

BennehBoy · 14 May 2021, 19:14

I just bought a 3.1.4 license, will I have to buy 3.2 afresh? :/

NinjaCyborg · 14 May 2021, 19:18

Well done everybody thanks so much to all contributors. Can't wait to try it out. The feature list sounds excellent.

gulliver · 14 May 2021, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by BennehBoy

I just bought a 3.1.4 license, will I have to buy 3.2 afresh? :/

I don't manage sales.
I suggest you contact your dealer and/or Hyperion.

Warty · 14 May 2021, 19:20

Congratulations to everyone involved! how great is it to have a new release for 35 year old machines? Incredible. TextEdit looks great, can't wait to try it out and the ReAction stuff.

tygre · 14 May 2021, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatbob_gb

https://www.hyperion-entertainment.c...to-buy/dealers

Cool, thanks

Phantasm · 14 May 2021, 19:24

Looking forward to it actually being made available to buy

Warty · 14 May 2021, 19:27

Amiga on the Lake says they are ordering it, and plan to have ROMs and Floppies available.

gulliver · 14 May 2021, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warty

Amiga on the Lake says they are ordering it, and plan to have ROMs and Floppies available.

Floppies?

While it can surely be done, I thought no one would be insane enough to try to sell so many floppies.

fluffkitten · 14 May 2021, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

Floppies?

While it can surely be done, I thought no one would be insane enough to try to sell so many floppies.

How many floppies has it expanded to?

gulliver · 14 May 2021, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffkitten

How many floppies has it expanded to?

For all machine types and all languages it would require 35 floppies.

So trying to sell that is...

gulliver · 14 May 2021, 19:34

The table got messed up, but I hope you understand it:

Disk No. Label Bootable Comments

1 Install3.2 Yes Install disk and CD-ROM driver
2. Workbench3.2 Yes Floppy usage requires a 3.2 ROM
3. Extras3.2 No
4. Classes3.2 No
5. Fonts No
6. Storage3.2 No
7. GlowIcon3.2 No GlowIcons
8. Backdrops3.2 No Background pictures
9. DiskDoctor Yes For diagnostics and salvage
10. HDSetup3.2 Yes SuperKickstart & A2090 support
11. Locale No Required for a localized install
12. Locale-DE No German translations
13. Locale-DK No Danish translations
14. Locale-EN No English translations
15. Locale-ES No Spanish translations
16. Locale-FR No French translations
17. Locale-GR No Greek translations
18. Locale-IT No Italian translations
19. Locale-NL No Dutch translations
20. Locale-NO No Norsk translations
21. Locale-PL No Polish translations
22. Locale-PT No Portuguese translations
23. Locale-RU No Rusian translations
24. Locale-SE No Swedish translations
25. Locale-TR No Turkish translations
26. Locale-UK No British translations
27. MMULibs No Optional CPU support libraries

*) For a disk-only based installation, *one* of the following
additional disks are required per Amiga model:

28. ModulesA500_3.2 Yes For Amiga 500/1000/CDTV models
29. ModulesA600_3.2 Yes For Amiga 600 models
30. ModulesA1200_3.2 Yes For Amiga 1200 models
31. ModulesA2000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 2000 models
32. ModulesA3000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 3000(T) models
33. ModulesA4000D_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000D models
34. ModulesA4000T_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000T models
35. ModulesCD32_3.2 Yes For Amiga CD32 models

fluffkitten · 14 May 2021, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

For all machine types and all languages it would require 35 floppies.

So trying to sell that is...

Might be a problem.

gulliver · 14 May 2021, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffkitten

Might be a problem.

Absolutely!

Buy the CD if you can. It has all versions plus it is bootable on the CDTV and CD32 (if you meet the hardware requirements), and it has other extras too.

NinjaCyborg · 14 May 2021, 19:39

I have 2 questions:

1) Will OS4.1FE get an update to add in any relevant features that should be carried forward that it didn't already have? e.g. new shell commands and command parameters

2) What, if anything, is left that OS 3.9 has that 3.2 still doesn't, now that 3.2 has better datatypes, better ReAction and has the prefs apps updated to be font sensitive, even if they're not exactly the same versions that 3.9 had.

S0ulA55a551n · 14 May 2021, 19:44

I assume there will be an upgrade price for people who bought 3.1.4 ?

What are the killer features in the 100 new features that are worth the upgrade ?

Olaf Barthel · 14 May 2021, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaCyborg

I have 2 questions:

1) Will OS4.1FE get an update to add in any relevant features that should be carried forward that it didn't already have? e.g. new shell commands and command parameters

There's some overlap and you might find that the shell commands in AmigaOS 3.2 are not functionally identical to the AmigaOS 4.x commands in terms of features. They still have some catching up to do. Put another way, there's more AmigaOS for the 68k platform to "adopt" from AmigaOS 4.x than the other way round.

Quote:

2) What, if anything, is left that OS 3.9 has that 3.2 still doesn't, now that 3.2 has better datatypes, better ReAction and has the prefs apps updated to be font sensitive, even if they're not exactly the same versions that 3.9 had.

What first comes to my mind is that AmigaOS 3.2 still has to carry HDToolbox and its ugly sidekick ProdPrep, whereas the partitioning software in AmigaOS 3.9 is much more mature and functional. As before, we did our best under difficult circumstances, but the whole HDToolbox situation is both supremely dissatisfying and hard to redress

gulliver · 14 May 2021, 19:49

Better replied by Olaf.

Nowee · 14 May 2021, 19:49

Great news. I had the removal of my ageing CD drives planned, seems like it'll have to wait some more.

Warty · 14 May 2021, 19:56

That doesn't look so bad to me, for a US-based vendor:

Disk No. Label Bootable Comments

1 Install3.2 Yes Install disk and CD-ROM driver
2. Workbench3.2 Yes Floppy usage requires a 3.2 ROM
3. Extras3.2 No
4. Classes3.2 No
5. Fonts No
6. Storage3.2 No
7. GlowIcon3.2 No GlowIcons
8. Backdrops3.2 No Background pictures
9. DiskDoctor Yes For diagnostics and salvage
10. HDSetup3.2 Yes SuperKickstart & A2090 support
11. Locale No Required for a localized install
14. Locale-EN No English translations
27. MMULibs No Optional CPU support libraries

Specify ONE of these in your order:
28. ModulesA500_3.2 Yes For Amiga 500/1000/CDTV models
29. ModulesA600_3.2 Yes For Amiga 600 models
30. ModulesA1200_3.2 Yes For Amiga 1200 models
31. ModulesA2000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 2000 models
32. ModulesA3000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 3000(T) models
33. ModulesA4000D_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000D models
34. ModulesA4000T_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000T models
35. ModulesCD32_3.2 Yes For Amiga CD32 models

That's only 14 disks. And you could make it 12 easily by having a "basic Amiga" set that didn't include the glow and backdrop graphics, which aren't really much fun if you don't have an RTG card I suppose.

DL only:
12. Locale-DE No German translations
13. Locale-DK No Danish translations
15. Locale-ES No Spanish translations
16. Locale-FR No French translations
17. Locale-GR No Greek translations
18. Locale-IT No Italian translations
19. Locale-NL No Dutch translations
20. Locale-NO No Norsk translations
21. Locale-PL No Polish translations
22. Locale-PT No Portuguese translations
23. Locale-RU No Rusian translations
24. Locale-SE No Swedish translations
25. Locale-TR No Turkish translations
26. Locale-UK No British translations

To be fair, I once or twice or several times installed Mac System 7.5 (Japanese), which was 27 disks as I recall. So I may be somewhat brain damaged.

14 May 2021, 19:34	#32
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	The table got messed up, but I hope you understand it: Disk No. Label Bootable Comments 1 Install3.2 Yes Install disk and CD-ROM driver 2. Workbench3.2 Yes Floppy usage requires a 3.2 ROM 3. Extras3.2 No 4. Classes3.2 No 5. Fonts No 6. Storage3.2 No 7. GlowIcon3.2 No GlowIcons 8. Backdrops3.2 No Background pictures 9. DiskDoctor Yes For diagnostics and salvage 10. HDSetup3.2 Yes SuperKickstart & A2090 support 11. Locale No Required for a localized install 12. Locale-DE No German translations 13. Locale-DK No Danish translations 14. Locale-EN No English translations 15. Locale-ES No Spanish translations 16. Locale-FR No French translations 17. Locale-GR No Greek translations 18. Locale-IT No Italian translations 19. Locale-NL No Dutch translations 20. Locale-NO No Norsk translations 21. Locale-PL No Polish translations 22. Locale-PT No Portuguese translations 23. Locale-RU No Rusian translations 24. Locale-SE No Swedish translations 25. Locale-TR No Turkish translations 26. Locale-UK No British translations 27. MMULibs No Optional CPU support libraries ) For a disk-only based installation, one* of the following additional disks are required per Amiga model: 28. ModulesA500_3.2 Yes For Amiga 500/1000/CDTV models 29. ModulesA600_3.2 Yes For Amiga 600 models 30. ModulesA1200_3.2 Yes For Amiga 1200 models 31. ModulesA2000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 2000 models 32. ModulesA3000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 3000(T) models 33. ModulesA4000D_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000D models 34. ModulesA4000T_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000T models 35. ModulesCD32_3.2 Yes For Amiga CD32 models Last edited by gulliver; 14 May 2021 at 19:36. Reason: Update

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14 May 2021, 19:14	#22
BennehBoy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: England Posts: 58	I just bought a 3.1.4 license, will I have to buy 3.2 afresh? :/

14 May 2021, 19:18	#23
NinjaCyborg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 31	Well done everybody thanks so much to all contributors. Can't wait to try it out. The feature list sounds excellent.

14 May 2021, 19:20	#25
Warty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Minneapolis, USA Posts: 301	Congratulations to everyone involved! how great is it to have a new release for 35 year old machines? Incredible. TextEdit looks great, can't wait to try it out and the ReAction stuff.

14 May 2021, 19:24	#27
Phantasm Not a Rebel anymore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 497	Looking forward to it actually being made available to buy

14 May 2021, 19:27	#28
Warty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Minneapolis, USA Posts: 301	Amiga on the Lake says they are ordering it, and plan to have ROMs and Floppies available.

14 May 2021, 19:39	#35
NinjaCyborg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 31	I have 2 questions: 1) Will OS4.1FE get an update to add in any relevant features that should be carried forward that it didn't already have? e.g. new shell commands and command parameters 2) What, if anything, is left that OS 3.9 has that 3.2 still doesn't, now that 3.2 has better datatypes, better ReAction and has the prefs apps updated to be font sensitive, even if they're not exactly the same versions that 3.9 had.

14 May 2021, 19:44	#36
S0ulA55a551n Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Wales Age: 46 Posts: 934	I assume there will be an upgrade price for people who bought 3.1.4 ? What are the killer features in the 100 new features that are worth the upgrade ?

14 May 2021, 19:49	#38
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Better replied by Olaf.

14 May 2021, 19:49	#39
Nowee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Luxembourg/Luxembourg Posts: 10	Great news. I had the removal of my ageing CD drives planned, seems like it'll have to wait some more.

14 May 2021, 19:56	#40
Warty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Minneapolis, USA Posts: 301	That doesn't look so bad to me, for a US-based vendor: Disk No. Label Bootable Comments 1 Install3.2 Yes Install disk and CD-ROM driver 2. Workbench3.2 Yes Floppy usage requires a 3.2 ROM 3. Extras3.2 No 4. Classes3.2 No 5. Fonts No 6. Storage3.2 No 7. GlowIcon3.2 No GlowIcons 8. Backdrops3.2 No Background pictures 9. DiskDoctor Yes For diagnostics and salvage 10. HDSetup3.2 Yes SuperKickstart & A2090 support 11. Locale No Required for a localized install 14. Locale-EN No English translations 27. MMULibs No Optional CPU support libraries Specify ONE of these in your order: 28. ModulesA500_3.2 Yes For Amiga 500/1000/CDTV models 29. ModulesA600_3.2 Yes For Amiga 600 models 30. ModulesA1200_3.2 Yes For Amiga 1200 models 31. ModulesA2000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 2000 models 32. ModulesA3000_3.2 Yes For Amiga 3000(T) models 33. ModulesA4000D_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000D models 34. ModulesA4000T_3.2 Yes For Amiga 4000T models 35. ModulesCD32_3.2 Yes For Amiga CD32 models That's only 14 disks. And you could make it 12 easily by having a "basic Amiga" set that didn't include the glow and backdrop graphics, which aren't really much fun if you don't have an RTG card I suppose. DL only: 12. Locale-DE No German translations 13. Locale-DK No Danish translations 15. Locale-ES No Spanish translations 16. Locale-FR No French translations 17. Locale-GR No Greek translations 18. Locale-IT No Italian translations 19. Locale-NL No Dutch translations 20. Locale-NO No Norsk translations 21. Locale-PL No Polish translations 22. Locale-PT No Portuguese translations 23. Locale-RU No Rusian translations 24. Locale-SE No Swedish translations 25. Locale-TR No Turkish translations 26. Locale-UK No British translations To be fair, I once or twice or several times installed Mac System 7.5 (Japanese), which was 27 disks as I recall. So I may be somewhat brain damaged.

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