Amiga - the unanswered questions

DDNI · 03 April 2020, 20:38

Covid isolation boredom has kicked in.

What do we not know about the Amiga?
What software is missing? What games are we still looking for? Is there any piece of hardware that is still a dark mystery?

I’d love to see another Putty Squad type quest. Or perhaps another “stinking illiterate peasant” puzzle. Those days were amazing!

spudje · 03 April 2020, 20:49

If you're that bored. Read this forum from beginning till end, and I'm sure your questions will be answered... :P

manossg · 03 April 2020, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

What do we not know about the Amiga?
What software is missing? What games are we still looking for? Is there any piece of hardware that is still a dark mystery?

I would love more point'n'click adventure games.
I would love a new version of ProTracker with some nice, modern shortcuts (ctrl+Z/V/S/etc).

DDNI · 03 April 2020, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudje

If you're that bored. Read this forum from beginning till end, and I'm sure your questions will be answered... :P

Ouch

I’ve read most of it since 2006...

lilalurl · 03 April 2020, 23:05

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Originally Posted by DDNI

Ouch

I’ve read most of it since 2006...

That still leaves the 5 years between 2001 and 2006

AlphaAmiga · 04 April 2020, 00:09

I would love to know whats happened to all assest/source code for games that were being worked on by certain companies before they left the Amiga scene or folded.

One example is Pagan Games game called 'Dafel Bloodline' which I thought looked really interesting, as well as their proposed games called 'Scavengers' and 'MagicK'.

Their are probably loads of other games from early 2000's that I could rattle off (if I could remember them).

If the coders still had the sources I have always wondered if they would upload them somewhere for someone to pick up where they left off, that would be fantastic!

skan · 04 April 2020, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaAmiga

I would love to know whats happened to all assest/source code for games that were being worked on by certain companies before they left the Amiga scene or folded.

...

If the coders still had the sources I have always wondered if they would upload them somewhere for someone to pick up where they left off, that would be fantastic!

THIS.

There's plenty of unfinished / unreleased / lost forever stuff out there! It would be great to pick them up from where they were left to rot and see what happens...

AlphaAmiga · 04 April 2020, 12:17

Is their a list anywhere (comprehensive or not) of games that were supposed to being worked on from this period that just seemed to dissappear?

Would love to pull something together that the community could investigate on and see if assest/source code is still available and take it from their.

You never know if they are still around it might spark a it of interest from some of the old coders to do something with their old stuff, you just never know till you try.

lilalurl · 04 April 2020, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaAmiga

Is their a list anywhere (comprehensive or not) of games that were supposed to being worked on from this period that just seemed to dissappear?

Would love to pull something together that the community could investigate on and see if assest/source code is still available and take it from their.

You never know if they are still around it might spark a it of interest from some of the old coders to do something with their old stuff, you just never know till you try.

Amiga Games That Weren't fits your description I believe:
http://www.abime.net/agtw/list

Steve · 04 April 2020, 12:52

Okay I have one for you. Although I'm not bored or in lockdown! I still go to work and go outside and live my life as normal. I know enough now to not fear what the mainstream media tell me. Anyway rant over.

I'd like to know where the game 'The Viking Saga' is located. The developer himself mentions it on page 186 of Amiga Format issue 58. His name is Lee Bamber from Wigan. The game doesn't even appear on HOL. Anyone heard of this? Apparently it is by Deja-vu.

I also found it listed in the Amiga Format Buyers Guide from 1994. It's a licenseware game which could only be acquired by mail-order.

StevenJGore · 04 April 2020, 12:59

What interests me most is whether there are any undiscovered hardware prototypes out there somewhere in the world, either Commodore, Amiga Technologies, or 3rd party. I know that the BBOAH contains a lot of things like the Walker, but are we confident we know about everything and have found everything?

Minuous · 04 April 2020, 13:36

@Steve:

Yes, while it seems most commercial and PD software is preserved, a lot of licenceware software, especially Deja Vu Licenceware, seem to have disappeared into the abyss :-(

DamienD · 04 April 2020, 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaAmiga

Is their a list anywhere (comprehensive or not) of games that were supposed to being worked on from this period that just seemed to dissappear?

Also look on HOL filtering unreleased.

...and these 2 threads on EAB:

skyzoo73 · 04 April 2020, 14:41

It would be nice for someone to think of the great classics, such as Monkey Island and partially remake the game by converting the 256-color screens for aga machines.

djukon · 04 April 2020, 15:38

There are still several fully scanned Amiga Power issues awaiting archival (later issues).

robben74 · 12 May 2020, 19:33

What I do not know about Amiga is why it was abandoned.

I mean many of best Amiga games belong to a genre that today is totally absent. So there arent "better technical alternatives": Amiga still offer the best in that genres.

I am thinking - for example - about point and click adventures like Lucas'. I think that they would be very cheap to produce today. They could go on producing forever.

There are people still playing Sensible World of Soccer after 30 years. Too bad most of the people think that whats old has to be trashed.

Predseda · 13 May 2020, 08:39

Point n click are still being produced, look at Steam. Although the last really big one I remember is Broken Sword saga.

ruinashiro · 13 May 2020, 11:07

I've always thought a game using the B&W composite out would be great: you can do 256 shades through HAM and get around a lot of the negatives of that color format.

NorthWay · 13 May 2020, 13:38

Were the contents of the C= fileservers saved? Not thinking of the source code, but all kinds of docs and things like vdhl/verilog code and similar.

Biscuit · 13 May 2020, 13:51

My first thought was also to see the preview versions of games that were unreleased.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Also look on HOL filtering unreleased.

...and these 2 threads on EAB:

And there is still stuff missing from there. Like like Cinemaware/Mirrorsoft game Rollerbabes.
https://lostmediawiki.com/Rollerbabe...ion_game;_1991)

03 April 2020, 20:38	#1
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Amiga - the unanswered questions Covid isolation boredom has kicked in. What do we not know about the Amiga? What software is missing? What games are we still looking for? Is there any piece of hardware that is still a dark mystery? I’d love to see another Putty Squad type quest. Or perhaps another “stinking illiterate peasant” puzzle. Those days were amazing!

04 April 2020, 12:52	#10
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	Okay I have one for you. Although I'm not bored or in lockdown! I still go to work and go outside and live my life as normal. I know enough now to not fear what the mainstream media tell me. Anyway rant over. I'd like to know where the game 'The Viking Saga' is located. The developer himself mentions it on page 186 of Amiga Format issue 58. His name is Lee Bamber from Wigan. The game doesn't even appear on HOL. Anyone heard of this? Apparently it is by Deja-vu. I also found it listed in the Amiga Format Buyers Guide from 1994. It's a licenseware game which could only be acquired by mail-order. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Steve; 04 April 2020 at 13:10.

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djukon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 640x512 Posts: 167	There are still several fully scanned Amiga Power issues awaiting archival (later issues). Amiga Magazine Rack (Abime) DLH's Commodore Archive Internet Archive Old Game Mags RetroMags

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03 April 2020, 20:49	#2
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	If you're that bored. Read this forum from beginning till end, and I'm sure your questions will be answered... :P

04 April 2020, 00:09	#6
AlphaAmiga Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Liverpool Posts: 163	I would love to know whats happened to all assest/source code for games that were being worked on by certain companies before they left the Amiga scene or folded. One example is Pagan Games game called 'Dafel Bloodline' which I thought looked really interesting, as well as their proposed games called 'Scavengers' and 'MagicK'. Their are probably loads of other games from early 2000's that I could rattle off (if I could remember them). If the coders still had the sources I have always wondered if they would upload them somewhere for someone to pick up where they left off, that would be fantastic!

04 April 2020, 12:17	#8
AlphaAmiga Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Liverpool Posts: 163	Is their a list anywhere (comprehensive or not) of games that were supposed to being worked on from this period that just seemed to dissappear? Would love to pull something together that the community could investigate on and see if assest/source code is still available and take it from their. You never know if they are still around it might spark a it of interest from some of the old coders to do something with their old stuff, you just never know till you try.

04 April 2020, 12:59	#11
StevenJGore Amiga Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Yorkshire, UK Age: 46 Posts: 726	What interests me most is whether there are any undiscovered hardware prototypes out there somewhere in the world, either Commodore, Amiga Technologies, or 3rd party. I know that the BBOAH contains a lot of things like the Walker, but are we confident we know about everything and have found everything?

04 April 2020, 13:36	#12
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	@Steve: Yes, while it seems most commercial and PD software is preserved, a lot of licenceware software, especially Deja Vu Licenceware, seem to have disappeared into the abyss :-(

04 April 2020, 14:41	#14
skyzoo73 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Italy Age: 50 Posts: 292	It would be nice for someone to think of the great classics, such as Monkey Island and partially remake the game by converting the 256-color screens for aga machines.

12 May 2020, 19:33	#16
robben74 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Europe Posts: 23	What I do not know about Amiga is why it was abandoned. I mean many of best Amiga games belong to a genre that today is totally absent. So there arent "better technical alternatives": Amiga still offer the best in that genres. I am thinking - for example - about point and click adventures like Lucas'. I think that they would be very cheap to produce today. They could go on producing forever. There are people still playing Sensible World of Soccer after 30 years. Too bad most of the people think that whats old has to be trashed.

13 May 2020, 08:39	#17
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Point n click are still being produced, look at Steam. Although the last really big one I remember is Broken Sword saga.

13 May 2020, 11:07	#18
ruinashiro Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 51	I've always thought a game using the B&W composite out would be great: you can do 256 shades through HAM and get around a lot of the negatives of that color format.

13 May 2020, 13:38	#19
NorthWay Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Grimstad / Norway Posts: 839	Were the contents of the C= fileservers saved? Not thinking of the source code, but all kinds of docs and things like vdhl/verilog code and similar.

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