Aros m68k (Kickstart substitute)

[gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by Minuous

So I don't see the need to replace it with something that is exactly the same but of equal or less compatibility.

Do you see any point in gcc, Linux or OpenOffice?

[Djay]

when its released, it should include a readme which states.... free to anyone apart from Amiga forever

[Minuous]

Originally Posted by gilgamesh

Do you see any point in gcc, Linux or OpenOffice?

No, not really.

>when its released, it should include a readme which states.... free to anyone apart from Amiga forever

Agreed :-)

@Zetro:

>Once a new Kickrom is developed that is as compatible with 3.1 as possible - then looks at a workbench replacements - improved software porting in and out of the AROS community!

AROS is still targeting 3.1 instead of 3.9 even 10 years after the release of 3.9. When will they ever catch up <sigh> ...

[T_hairy_bootson]

From the Aros wiki FAQ

Why are you only aiming for compatibility with 3.1?

Well, to be honest this is a misconception. The base development is aimed at implementing the apis used in "atleast" AmigaOS v3.1. However along the way it has been necessary to revise the plans somewhat where amigaos3.1 didnt support the necessary functionality. The end result is a feature set somewhere inbetween OS3.1 and 3.9 however 3.1 is still used as the _base_ of our goals.

What is the relation between AROS and Haage & Partner?

Haage & Partner used parts of AROS in AmigaOS 3.5 and 3.9, for example the colorwheel and gradientslider gadgets and the SetENV command. This means that in a way, AROS has become part of the official AmigaOS. This does not imply that there is any formal relation between AROS and Haage & Partner. AROS is an open source project, and anyone can use our code in their own projects provided they follow the license.

[Minuous]

>The end result is a feature set somewhere inbetween OS3.1 and 3.9 however 3.1 is still used as the _base_ of our goals.

Thanks THB.

But your excerpt just confirms what I was saying.

So it's basically OS3.1 with some but not all OS3.5/3.9 enhancements. Similar to the situation with OS4 - they started with ancient OS3.1 and still not all OS3.5/3.9 enhancements have been incorporated - but at least OS4 has ReAction, if I was using AROS I'd be stuck with crappy GadTools or awful MUI.

[TCD]

@Minuous
You know that noone forces you to use Aros and/or the free Kickstart replacement. I think it's quite a task to reengineer an OS and I think the Aros guys are not doing too bad.

[gilgamesh]

It's loading AROS shell.

http://www.evillabs.net/wiki/index.p...10:_AROS_Shell

[mihcael]

Neat!

[cosmicfrog]

@Minuous

so U never upgraded your Kickstart from 1.2 to 1.3 or 1.1 to 1.2 wow or 2.0 to 3.0
I utterly fail to see how you cannot see the benefits that a successful project like this will bring to all our lives


@thread
Go team toni, I hope you don`t need your crystal ball to much

I was trying install aros to take to Blackpool but did`t get round to it, seems I`ve got an added incentive to try again now

[Zetr0]

Originally Posted by Minuous

>The end result is a feature set somewhere inbetween OS3.1 and 3.9 however 3.1 is still used as the _base_ of our goals.

Thanks THB.

But your excerpt just confirms what I was saying.

So it's basically OS3.1 with some but not all OS3.5/3.9 enhancements. Similar to the situation with OS4 - they started with ancient OS3.1 and still not all OS3.5/3.9 enhancements have been incorporated - but at least OS4 has ReAction, if I was using AROS I'd be stuck with crappy GadTools or awful MUI.

I tihnk that you might be getting caught up on whats going on here Minuous -

We are discussing KickROM not Operating System


There are NO official 3.9 KickROM's these are CUSTOM - tailored to the hardware target that uses them.

OS replacements / updates can come later


As much as I am not an MUI fan - when properly setup its pretty good especially on limmited ECS machines-

I wont hear a bad word about GadTools (I love gadtools) well usually I replace everything in code anyway - but hey its a great bit of prototyping software for me. =)

[Retro1234]

Just had a quick Play - Impressive start, I know nothing is going to work 100% yet but tried a few IPFs
Now gonna try adding some WB Libs and Commands to the Aros Boot disk.

Keep up the good work Guys

[gilgamesh]

Does it work out of the box now or did you do anything special (with serial port)?

[Retro1234]

I just downloaded -loaded the config file and roms
http://www.evillabs.net/AROS/AROS-r35388-EVIL.tar.gz

[mihcael]

Slightly newer screenshot, looks a bit more natural now!



Nightly Builds for AROS 68K have been implemented!

The native version for m68k Amigas or UAE. This version is binary compatible with AmigaOS. This archive contains rom image(s) and all AROS system binaries compiled from the Subversion tree.

Still not at all useable but its another step!

[Retro1234]

Looks like Cloanto are one of the Sponsors for the bounty

There were a few more games ran -Yo Joe IPF, Double Drasgon III, Smash TV

Originally Posted by mihcael

Slightly newer screenshot, looks a bit more natural now!

Is there an updated ROM? AND where can I get it?

Edit:

Originally Posted by mihcael

In the nightly builds

[Toni Wilen]

Graphics updates are currently painfully slow, most rectangle based graphics routines fall back to getpixel and putpixel if driver does not implement real block based graphics routines.

Blitter routines will be implemented in next few days.

[kriz]

Great work !!

[chiark]

Just one word: outstanding!

http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/v...d=5410&forum=4


=]

[mihcael]

AROS trying to boot with AROS rom.
[ Show youtube player ]

And from the mailing list today

Originally Posted by Jason McMullan;

...
Just to let you know, with some not-yet-ready-for-prime-time hacks, I was able to boot to Wanderer with a 2M Chip + 8M Fast configuration. When Wanderer came up (and ate my mouse cursor!)

I had left:
1.7M Chip (good!)
3.3M Fast (what?!? Wanderer ate 4.7M of RAM?)
...