Games that can't be completed because they was never fully play tested before release - Page 2

Lyverbe · 06 October 2017, 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anakirob

But Captive cannot be finished anyway as it goes on forever in theory!

Also, I seem to recall that it was possible to simply skip some missions, but I could be remembering incorrectly :P

You can only do that by editing saved games, but there's nothing in Captive itself that allows you to skip a base or mission.

hipoonios · 08 October 2017, 01:28

Played Zeus today and managed to play all levels! Thanks again for the fixed version

I know many more games that needs to be fixed. Will post soon...

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Originally Posted by hipoonios

Another game with broken ending is the Polish game Łowca Głów.

Found a way to see the ending. On disk 2 there is a file called ZK. Run this from Workbench or boot from disk 2 (disk is bootable) and type ZK.

For some reason game does not load this file when you completed the last level. Which makes me think this is a similar problem as with Pinkie.

Dan · 08 October 2017, 23:23

Hi, here is the Level Editor for the Zeus Game. (windows 32bit)

It edits/modifies the ADF or the levels can be exported as Dat files.
I hope it will be usefull.

It is written in BlitzBasic3d, which does not have native Windows File Requesters.

So be carefull in choosing the ADF files, because if you choose a wrong one
(e.g not Zeus Game Adf) it may get corrupted, as there is no check for the
valid ADF file.

Always apply the patches to a Copy !

Have fun.

hipoonios · 11 December 2017, 18:52

Here is the next one. A little shareware game from 1995 that was reviewed in The One and the Amiga Power Magazine.

Game title: Coin Mania
Level that needs to be fixed: 16
Screenshot: attached
Savestate: attached
Link to game: in The Zone and authors site.
Password to level: CASH (well, you only receive a level code every 15th level, so this is the code for level 15). To complete level 15, just bounce to the right...

The problem: Level 16 (out of 50) can not be completed because you do not have enough time. I tried for more than an hour, so I'm pretty sure this level can not be completed. But you can always try to prove that I'm wrong

How to fix it: Don't know what is easiest to do:

Add 20 seconds more time (that should be more than enough). Or remove the three slime blocks that is marked in the screenshot and make them solid blocks. The slime make you stop for 5 seconds and you really have to bounce in the slime to complete this level.

How will take the challenge?

jotd · 11 December 2017, 21:31

Is it me, or if you fall into the wide spikes (which need wings to cross) after getting the wings in superfrog last level of world 6, you're stuck there forever?

s2325 · 11 December 2017, 21:51

game will throw frog into pit until last life?

jotd · 12 December 2017, 14:11

well, you don't have any wings handy after having lost once or twice there. Unless I'm mistaken.

hipoonios · 25 December 2017, 10:37

Catch 'Em has a bug on the second last level. Have tried all available versions and all have this bug. The problem is that you start with 3 clubs and you need 4.

I made a longplay video in 2006 and could finish it by hacking the savestate. This is the only time I have used cheat in my longplays

It would be nice to have a fixed ADF

Level Name: THE HELL
Level Code: GUNSMITH

Dan · 25 December 2017, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipoonios

Here is the next one. A little shareware game from 1995 that was reviewed in The One and the Amiga Power Magazine.

Game title: Coin Mania
Level that needs to be fixed: 16
Screenshot: attached
Savestate: attached
Link to game: in The Zone and authors site.
Password to level: CASH (well, you only receive a level code every 15th level, so this is the code for level 15). To complete level 15, just bounce to the right...

The problem: Level 16 (out of 50) can not be completed because you do not have enough time. I tried for more than an hour, so I'm pretty sure this level can not be completed. But you can always try to prove that I'm wrong

How to fix it: Don't know what is easiest to do:

Add 20 seconds more time (that should be more than enough). Or remove the three slime blocks that is marked in the screenshot and make them solid blocks. The slime make you stop for 5 seconds and you really have to bounce in the slime to complete this level.

How will take the challenge?

Just today i saw that there were more entries to this thread, and so i decided to look on the coin mania.

After a few hours of playing with the editor, i came to following results:

On the adf, there is a level editor, but the original levels are not included.

The game must either contain the levels within the compiled binary or loading them as extra file.

The Problem: The Game is holding the Level Data as compressed bitmap.

The level editor is saving the data as either unpackable data, or finalized data (which is saved, as well, as packed picture bank, but probably remove or change some bytes, so it can't be unpacked as iff picture, from the amos-pro direct mode)

So theoretically, if someone wanted to find the level data, he could use the level editor, to recreate all 50 levels in it, to setup all passwords and the right timers, and save it as finalized data.
And then hope to find the exact bytes somewhere on the disk.

Iv uploaded a picture with 50 levels, where only level 1 is the same as original level. It contains random passwords, which are probably the square on the far bottom right side.

Maybe the author of the game still has the sources and would like to share them ?

ross · 26 December 2017, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipoonios

Catch 'Em has a bug on the second last level. Have tried all available versions and all have this bug. The problem is that you start with 3 clubs and you need 4.

Fix done (into The Zone!). As a bonus a better crack.
Please test.

rsn8887 · 26 December 2017, 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotareneg

Captive can't be played past base 1 of mission 2316 because the map generator crashes, but I somehow doubt anyone's actually gotten far enough to run into that issue.

How on earth did you find that out?

DamienD · 26 December 2017, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Fix done (into The Zone!). As a bonus a better crack.
Please test.

Nice one ross

...what crack did you apply this fix to though? I can't see any "Prestige" disks in TOSEC.

ross · 26 December 2017, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

...what crack did you apply this fix to though? I can't see any "Prestige" disks in TOSEC.

Hi Damien, crack is by me, Prestige is the developer:
http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?N_ref_developer=480

DamienD · 26 December 2017, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Hi Damien, crack is by me, Prestige is the developer:
http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?N_ref_developer=480

Ah, gotcha.

Sorry, I was thinking of "Prestige" the cracking group

hipoonios · 27 December 2017, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Fix done (into The Zone!). As a bonus a better crack.
Please test.

He did it again! Finally a working version of one of my favourite games

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

Maybe the author of the game still has the sources and would like to share them ?

Thank you for taking the time looking at this game

I actually contacted Alex Aris (the guy who did the graphics). He commented on my video and confirmed the bug. His mate (David) did the code and Alex things the code is lost forever.

[ Show youtube player ]

ross · 27 December 2017, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipoonios

He did it again! Finally a working version of one of my favourite games

My pleasure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipoonios

Here is the next one. A little shareware game from 1995 that was reviewed in The One and the Amiga Power Magazine.

Game title: Coin Mania
Level that needs to be fixed: 16

...

Add 20 seconds more time (that should be more than enough).
How will take the challenge?

I've chosen this way

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

The Problem: The Game is holding the Level Data as compressed bitmap.

Yes, too much troubles, better patch the main code.

[EDIT]oops, forgot to say that's in The Zone!
Please test

Lyverbe · 28 December 2017, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsn8887

How on earth did you find that out?

First bug listed on http://captive.atari.org/Miscellaneous/Bugs/Bugs.php

BarryB · 08 January 2018, 22:29

Anyone care to have a look at The Grail as this can't be completed due to something stopping the % probability in the Talespin engine working on the Amiga and thus stopping a certain 'Cripple' appearing when you sleep in the gutters so you're not able to complete the game!

Galahad/FLT · 08 January 2018, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Anyone care to have a look at The Grail as this can't be completed due to something stopping the % probability in the Talespin engine working on the Amiga and thus stopping a certain 'Cripple' appearing when you sleep in the gutters so you're not able to complete the game!

I'm out. Its of such low quality that I don't honestly believe anyone would play the end result should it be fixed.

BarryB · 08 January 2018, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

I'm out. Its of such low quality that I don't honestly believe anyone would play the end result should it be fixed.

Granted, but it would be another game 'fixed by the Amiga community' and after pissing about with it so much I would just want to finally complete it to the end just to honestly say what a steaming pile of crap it was, know what I mean

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11 December 2017, 21:31	#25
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	Is it me, or if you fall into the wide spikes (which need wings to cross) after getting the wings in superfrog last level of world 6, you're stuck there forever?

11 December 2017, 21:51	#26
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	game will throw frog into pit until last life?

12 December 2017, 14:11	#27
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	well, you don't have any wings handy after having lost once or twice there. Unless I'm mistaken.

25 December 2017, 10:37	#28
hipoonios Amiga Hardcore Gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,207	Catch 'Em has a bug on the second last level. Have tried all available versions and all have this bug. The problem is that you start with 3 clubs and you need 4. I made a longplay video in 2006 and could finish it by hacking the savestate. This is the only time I have used cheat in my longplays It would be nice to have a fixed ADF Level Name: THE HELL Level Code: GUNSMITH

08 January 2018, 22:29	#38
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Anyone care to have a look at The Grail as this can't be completed due to something stopping the % probability in the Talespin engine working on the Amiga and thus stopping a certain 'Cripple' appearing when you sleep in the gutters so you're not able to complete the game!

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