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Is the A600GS similar to the V4Standalone?
I was reading the press release for the launch of an updated version of PPaint and they mentioned it is using code compiled for the ARM chip. Does this mean that the A600GS is essentially a new Amiga that has a Workbench compatible OS than runs natively on the ARM chip? If so this would be similar to the V4Standalone as being a new variant of a compatible Amiga instead of an emulation box.
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Isn't the V4SA FPGA based? ARM is still there for some operations though...
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It was my understanding that OS libraries can be compiled for ARM and run natively rather than emulated. Such as the ARMgraphics.library
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my understand is, the system is 68k and there are special libraries who are adapted to the hardware. The OS itself is not running native on ARM Last edited by OlafSch; 28 May 2024 at 11:43. |
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The A600GS features System Release V46 with AmiBench as it's desktop environment. It is OS3.x compatible but designed to be more advanced. Our developers have spent the last 6 years developing the OS.
![]() The majority of the components are 68K compiled at time of release. Creating a fully ARM native OS is many years of work. However there are some libraries which already run ARM native code. The first of these is the ARM Graphics Library. The new PPaint 7.4 uses a lot of ARM native code for Blitter operations. This speeds up graphics operations at higher resolutions. It is usable and functional at 1080p screenmodes. We have lots of exciting ideas for development. We will push these updates through using our live update over the coming months after public release. |
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please stop making every post of yours a sales pitch mate it wore thin long ago
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Their own wiki page about Amibench does not even mention AROS at all. I don't call this being open about it, but actively trying to hide something. |
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Is that true? They say they have replaced AmigaDOS command set. I suspect it isn't true. But AmigaKit why not reply?
If it was my project, I would change that. If you embrace an opensource project, even if you fork it, then you should remember your roots until you have replaced all of that work (and even then consider a thank you for inspiration). Last edited by alexh; 05 June 2024 at 17:07. |
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Since 2.0 some more commands are already included in the Kickstart, but usually they do reside in C:
I am not sure how the AROS Kickstart replacement handles this exactly here ... but in any case: These commands are just a very small portion of the Kickstart, which consists primarily of Exec and Libraries. |
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The technical details are so lacking, more videos of it showing stuff would be helpful as well... No Aros mentioned on their site, it says this:
"AmiBench is a proprietry desktop environment developed by AmigaKit Ltd for the A600GS, Commodore-Amiga computers and Next Generation Amiga-like computers. It is built upon AmigaKit's System Release V46 distribution. " desktop environment = Operating system ? |
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I'm sure once it's out we can rip it apart and run it on a pistorm for a bit of a speed boost.
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The AmiBench Wiki is a working document and is actively being updated until the date of release. Therefore information is still being added on a week by week basis.
A lot of system components have been developed for Enhancer Software on OS4 over the last 6 years. These components have been ported over to be used within the AmiBench system. We have developed a new datatype library, picture datatype and purchased and updated AK-Datatypes to modern standards. We have many advanced gadgets and classes such as Tabbed Gadget Class. We will soon finish porting the Updater tool to let users download the latest system updates as our developers upgrade them. To supplement this large undertaking of development, we have had to use AROS components. This is necessary to be able to be able to push out a timely public release and not have this product perpetually in a state of development. We are very grateful that the AROS components exist whilst we develop our own components. Any changes we make to the AROS code base will be committed back. Finally, we have had agreement from PeterK to include his excellent icon library within the AmiBench system. |
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