New product: MNT ZZ9000

mntmn · 10 July 2018, 14:51

Hi all,

I'm offering a new Amiga 2/3/4000 expansion for preorder, sort of a "big sister" to the VA2000 graphics card, the ZZ9000:

https://shop.mntmn.com/products/zz90...amiga-preorder

It is a mix of RTG graphics card, AGA scandoubler, network interface and dual 666 MHz ARM coprocessor. It is more expensive but also more powerful than the VA2000. Insights and driver improvements will also feed back into updating VA2000.

Cheers
Lukas / mntmn

alexh · 10 July 2018, 15:15

Nice. I have some ZynQ FPGA's on my desk.

Where can I read about the technical capabilities of the ZZ9000?

trixster · 10 July 2018, 16:31

Does it do 1280x1024 24bit?

kriz · 10 July 2018, 16:41

Check the page Trixster (RTG: Up to 1920x1080 FHD screen resolution at 8bit 256-colors "Chunky", 16bit or 32bit color depths) .. Very interesting product !!

trixster · 10 July 2018, 16:48

Sorry, didn’t read properly! Looks like a very intererting product.

Matt_H · 10 July 2018, 21:06

Sign me up for one! I think I can replace a few cards with this.

Marlon_ · 10 July 2018, 22:09

Wait, how does the ARM co-processor work? You piqued my interest.

trixster · 10 July 2018, 22:45

It would be good if it gave usb as well as ethernet

grelbfarlk · 10 July 2018, 23:06

Looks pretty rad, very interesting.

watman · 11 July 2018, 10:45

Would it work in A500 thru a sideport-to-Z2 adapter?

spudje · 11 July 2018, 10:48

Looks awesome! Is this a complete own design or is it sort of a single board computer on a zorro adapter?

alexh · 11 July 2018, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudje

Looks awesome! Is this a complete own design or is it sort of a single board computer on a zorro adapter?

It's an off the shelf $119 Zynq FPGA devkit with a Zorro adapter.

A bit like MiSTer which is a DE10 nano FPGA with adapter boards.

spudje · 11 July 2018, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixster

It would be good if it gave usb as well as ethernet

Ethernet is mentioned and the board has USB_OTG, so I gues in theory, if a driver can be developed for Poseidon or other stack, USB would be possible too. Or am I wrong here.

alexh · 11 July 2018, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudje

Ethernet is mentioned and the board has USB_OTG, so I guess in theory, if a driver can be developed for Poseidon or other stack, USB would be possible too. Or am I wrong here.

Yes, I've looked at the Zync TRM and exposing the EHCI core over Zorro to the Amiga CPU should be possible. They must already be using the PL->PS layer to access the Ethernet

nexus · 11 July 2018, 19:51

be nice to have PCI compatibility maybe add some headers for on the back or something to use a breakout board or riser

Kitch · 11 July 2018, 23:08

Preorder placed

-Acid- · 11 July 2018, 23:25

How does the RTG work... P96 is it? How much of the 1gb ram is available to the Amiga (if any)? any lag with the scan doubler? (especially when changing screen resolutions in pinball games for example - the indi is terrible for that). Also if pre-ordered, when will payment be taken?

Does the gfx card perfromance equal or surpass a CV64/3D etc? If i'm running a widescreen workbench, then run an aga game for example will it be displayed 4:3 as instended or stretched out?

grelbfarlk · 12 July 2018, 00:23

Also does it operate at Z3 speeds, or only Z2 speed?

alexh · 12 July 2018, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexus

be nice to have PCI compatibility

Why? Ultimately it will have to plug into a Zorro bus. So why go through an expensive PCI->Zorro bridge?

nexus · 12 July 2018, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Why? Ultimately it will have to plug into a Zorro bus. So why go through an expensive PCI->Zorro bridge?

so i can use PCI on other amiga's
and why would it be expensive to add PCI?
plenty of power on that board

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mntmn Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Berlin / Germany Posts: 18	New product: MNT ZZ9000 Hi all, I'm offering a new Amiga 2/3/4000 expansion for preorder, sort of a "big sister" to the VA2000 graphics card, the ZZ9000: https://shop.mntmn.com/products/zz90...amiga-preorder It is a mix of RTG graphics card, AGA scandoubler, network interface and dual 666 MHz ARM coprocessor. It is more expensive but also more powerful than the VA2000. Insights and driver improvements will also feed back into updating VA2000. Cheers Lukas / mntmn Attached Thumbnails

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-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	How does the RTG work... P96 is it? How much of the 1gb ram is available to the Amiga (if any)? any lag with the scan doubler? (especially when changing screen resolutions in pinball games for example - the indi is terrible for that). Also if pre-ordered, when will payment be taken? Does the gfx card perfromance equal or surpass a CV64/3D etc? If i'm running a widescreen workbench, then run an aga game for example will it be displayed 4:3 as instended or stretched out? Last edited by -Acid-; 11 July 2018 at 23:44.

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10 July 2018, 15:15	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 13,843	Nice. I have some ZynQ FPGA's on my desk. Where can I read about the technical capabilities of the ZZ9000?

10 July 2018, 16:31	#3
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,263	Does it do 1280x1024 24bit?

10 July 2018, 16:41	#4
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,071	Check the page Trixster (RTG: Up to 1920x1080 FHD screen resolution at 8bit 256-colors "Chunky", 16bit or 32bit color depths) .. Very interesting product !!

10 July 2018, 16:48	#5
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,263	Sorry, didn’t read properly! Looks like a very intererting product.

10 July 2018, 21:06	#6
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 849	Sign me up for one! I think I can replace a few cards with this.

10 July 2018, 22:09	#7
Marlon_ AmigaDev.com Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 34 Posts: 625	Wait, how does the ARM co-processor work? You piqued my interest.

10 July 2018, 22:45	#8
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,263	It would be good if it gave usb as well as ethernet

10 July 2018, 23:06	#9
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,683	Looks pretty rad, very interesting.

11 July 2018, 10:45	#10
watman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Poland Posts: 36	Would it work in A500 thru a sideport-to-Z2 adapter?

11 July 2018, 10:48	#11
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,403	Looks awesome! Is this a complete own design or is it sort of a single board computer on a zorro adapter?

11 July 2018, 19:51	#15
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	be nice to have PCI compatibility maybe add some headers for on the back or something to use a breakout board or riser

11 July 2018, 23:08	#16
Kitch Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Christchurch / New Zealand Posts: 54	Preorder placed

12 July 2018, 00:23	#18
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,683	Also does it operate at Z3 speeds, or only Z2 speed?

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