Some IMPORTANT amiga developers say Bye....

keropi · 30 October 2007, 23:31

I just saw it in amiga.org ...

all these sites are down...

http://www.platon42.de
http://www.geit.de
http://amigazeux.net
http://binaryriot.org
http://www.chimachine1000.de/Pegasos/Pegasos.htm
http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/sw
http://www.korni.ovh.org

if all these VIP amiga developers have quit, then we are fingerlicked!

apparently some flaming has occured in amiga-news.de here ...

please come back all....

Dizzy · 30 October 2007, 23:37

why are they having the same message. Is these site owned by the same person ???

keropi · 30 October 2007, 23:41

some more info here at morphzone.org

Fred the Fop · 31 October 2007, 04:37

What kind of programs are these anyway?

Cammy · 31 October 2007, 05:57

I don't know why those Amiga developers are leaving, but Underground Arcade is here to stay, and we're going to keep supporting the Amiga platform!

DDNI · 31 October 2007, 06:56

Isn`t Sintonen, Harry Sintonen of BlizKick fame?

keropi · 31 October 2007, 07:51

damn you all!

we are talking about Chris Hodges here, the author of Poseidon USB stack used in classic amigas and MOS (also author of other cool stuff)
Piru, author of the famous Blizkick (and other cool progs too!) and MOS developer
and all other sites are of IMPORTANT software developers with programs like AmiTradeCenter etc... all are not just some guy that codes a 68k prog, we talk top stuff here!
and all that happened because 1 person in amiganews named PAB flamed Chris Hodges... one can guess that was the last insult they could take...?

Fred the Fop · 31 October 2007, 07:53

I insult you all the time, Keropi, and you never leave. Maybe we can all give these guys an e mail and get them to take out their anger on you and Dizzy

coze · 31 October 2007, 08:45

what I don't understand is ... we're all adults here, 30's mostly, if not 40's. then someone calls someone names. and then its 'uhuuuu mommy, pab called me stupid, I'm leaving the amiga huuu' ... very mature.

AMIGAZ · 31 October 2007, 09:17

It feels like as soon as it was announced that OS4 for Classics was going to be released some important Amiga people put on their grump-mode, Bernie (Amithlon dev.) for example

Toni Wilen · 31 October 2007, 10:28

I have learned by reading "other" amiga forums that it usually goes like this:

- Stupid user (the vocal minority part only) tries to say something technical and misses the point completely/says something that is completely wrong.

- Someone who knows about the technical details (usually developer) politely (more or less, the less polite the higher the loop count varible) corrects him.

- Stupid user replies with insults/personal attack.

Mission complete. Increase loop counter and restart.

(Those who lack humour detector: I was not completely serious)

Graham Humphrey · 31 October 2007, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

what I don't understand is ... we're all adults here, 30's mostly, if not 40's. then someone calls someone names. and then its 'uhuuuu mommy, pab called me stupid, I'm leaving the amiga huuu' ... very mature.

Indeed. It's all a bit embarrassing and I'm not sure I would even expect that sort of behaviour from schoolkids...

DrF · 31 October 2007, 10:38

I don't get it. Whats the problem, surely new software is good?

P-J · 31 October 2007, 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

what I don't understand is ... we're all adults here, 30's mostly, if not 40's. then someone calls someone names. and then its 'uhuuuu mommy, pab called me stupid, I'm leaving the amiga huuu' ... very mature.

It's the users who have lost, so maybe they should have bit their lip?

Charlie · 31 October 2007, 11:40

Oh F*ck!

That's a lot of very important devs.
Going to be some serious impact if this isn't temporary:

-My new subway isn't going to get registered now. A lack of full Poseidon has just turned my main project to poo. Time to sell up?-

Among the many good reasons I hang about the EAB rather than other forums is the generally good-humored nature of the discussion even when a good flaming would be richly deserved.

Zetr0 · 31 October 2007, 13:07

@charlie

there is always serlion usb stack, okay it might not have as good corpus of HID drivers as Poseidon.. but atleast its free and if posidon support dries up then all that will be left is the one that sounds like steak... mmm yummy stake...

keropi · 31 October 2007, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

Oh F*ck!

-My new subway isn't going to get registered now. A lack of full Poseidon has just turned my main project to poo. Time to sell up?-

subways have an OEM license for POSEIDON, there is NO NEED for a keyfile or registering

Calgor · 31 October 2007, 13:24

@Charlie

I have a new subway which I have not yet used, are you saying I have to register poseidon? I thought they came with it!?

There will always be annoying ppl wherever you go, be it online or in RL.

Hmm... amiga-news.de must be considered an important site by the developers.

EDIT: keropi seems to have answered my question about poseidon. I thought it should work out of the box.

Charlie · 31 October 2007, 14:09

@keropi & Calgor:
My bad no doubt - there didn't seem to be a licence key on the drivers disc that came with my subway. I looked for one when it installed in unlicenced mode...
...I'll have a closer look.

@Zert0:
Hmmm, steak! ( dribble )

My thanks.

PS
You've all made my point

I make a probably mistaken comment, you kindly point out my error & try to help. No flaming & I'm not bent out of shape for being corrected - why must the rest of the Amiga community be so different?

Whittling aside: I've no idea if any of the above devs frequent the EAB...
I appreciate all your hard work.
I'm sure the vast majority would agree.

alkis21 · 31 October 2007, 15:04

Has anyone tried to contact Chris yet?

I'm pretty sure I have his e-mail address, I'll check it when I get home.

30 October 2007, 23:31	#1
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	Some IMPORTANT amiga developers say Bye.... I just saw it in amiga.org ... all these sites are down... http://www.platon42.de http://www.geit.de http://amigazeux.net http://binaryriot.org http://www.chimachine1000.de/Pegasos/Pegasos.htm http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/sw http://www.korni.ovh.org if all these VIP amiga developers have quit, then we are fingerlicked! apparently some flaming has occured in amiga-news.de here ... please come back all....

31 October 2007, 11:40	#15
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,792	Oh Fck! That's a lot of very important devs. Going to be some serious impact if this isn't temporary: -My new subway isn't going to get registered now. A lack of full Poseidon has just turned my main project to poo. Time to sell up?- Among the many good reasons I hang about the EAB rather than other forums is the generally good-humored nature of the discussion even when a good flaming would be richly deserved. Last edited by Charlie; 31 October 2007 at 12:08.*

31 October 2007, 14:09	#19
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,792	@keropi & Calgor: My bad no doubt - there didn't seem to be a licence key on the drivers disc that came with my subway. I looked for one when it installed in unlicenced mode... ...I'll have a closer look. @Zert0: Hmmm, steak! ( dribble ) My thanks. PS You've all made my point I make a probably mistaken comment, you kindly point out my error & try to help. No flaming & I'm not bent out of shape for being corrected - why must the rest of the Amiga community be so different? Whittling aside: I've no idea if any of the above devs frequent the EAB... I appreciate all your hard work. I'm sure the vast majority would agree. Last edited by Charlie; 31 October 2007 at 21:07. Reason: Wanted to say something useful...

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30 October 2007, 23:37	#2
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	why are they having the same message. Is these site owned by the same person ???

30 October 2007, 23:41	#3
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	some more info here at morphzone.org

31 October 2007, 04:37	#4
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 54 Posts: 2,808	What kind of programs are these anyway?

31 October 2007, 05:57	#5
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 38 Posts: 1,185	I don't know why those Amiga developers are leaving, but Underground Arcade is here to stay, and we're going to keep supporting the Amiga platform!

31 October 2007, 06:56	#6
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,386	Isn`t Sintonen, Harry Sintonen of BlizKick fame?

31 October 2007, 07:51	#7
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	damn you all! we are talking about Chris Hodges here, the author of Poseidon USB stack used in classic amigas and MOS (also author of other cool stuff) Piru, author of the famous Blizkick (and other cool progs too!) and MOS developer and all other sites are of IMPORTANT software developers with programs like AmiTradeCenter etc... all are not just some guy that codes a 68k prog, we talk top stuff here! and all that happened because 1 person in amiganews named PAB flamed Chris Hodges... one can guess that was the last insult they could take...?

31 October 2007, 07:53	#8
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 54 Posts: 2,808	I insult you all the time, Keropi, and you never leave. Maybe we can all give these guys an e mail and get them to take out their anger on you and Dizzy

31 October 2007, 08:45	#9
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 45 Posts: 1,335	what I don't understand is ... we're all adults here, 30's mostly, if not 40's. then someone calls someone names. and then its 'uhuuuu mommy, pab called me stupid, I'm leaving the amiga huuu' ... very mature.

31 October 2007, 09:17	#10
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,286	It feels like as soon as it was announced that OS4 for Classics was going to be released some important Amiga people put on their grump-mode, Bernie (Amithlon dev.) for example

31 October 2007, 10:28	#11
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 48 Posts: 25,950	I have learned by reading "other" amiga forums that it usually goes like this: - Stupid user (the vocal minority part only) tries to say something technical and misses the point completely/says something that is completely wrong. - Someone who knows about the technical details (usually developer) politely (more or less, the less polite the higher the loop count varible) corrects him. - Stupid user replies with insults/personal attack. Mission complete. Increase loop counter and restart. (Those who lack humour detector: I was not completely serious)

31 October 2007, 10:38	#13
DrF Blessed A1200 Of TeH Rat Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bham, UK Age: 41 Posts: 496	I don't get it. Whats the problem, surely new software is good?

31 October 2007, 13:07	#16
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 48 Posts: 9,768	@charlie there is always serlion usb stack, okay it might not have as good corpus of HID drivers as Poseidon.. but atleast its free and if posidon support dries up then all that will be left is the one that sounds like steak... mmm yummy stake...

31 October 2007, 13:24	#18
Calgor (Amigas && Amigos)++ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 999	@Charlie I have a new subway which I have not yet used, are you saying I have to register poseidon? I thought they came with it!? There will always be annoying ppl wherever you go, be it online or in RL. Hmm... amiga-news.de must be considered an important site by the developers. EDIT: keropi seems to have answered my question about poseidon. I thought it should work out of the box.

31 October 2007, 15:04	#20
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 48 Posts: 1,381	Has anyone tried to contact Chris yet? I'm pretty sure I have his e-mail address, I'll check it when I get home.

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