BestClassicWB v2.0 for OS3.2 - Page 3

rabidgerry · 01 July 2021, 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by guybrush

Thanks for the package! I tried it on vanilla 3.2 install and I can confirm that there are some issues with performances.

The refresh of the screen on a 030/50 is sluggish; comparing this to CWB ADVSP is like night and day... CWB goes twice as fast as 3.2 with this pack, so I guess there is something that is chomping resources.

This is what I have been describing also so I'm really unsure as to how anyone else is not having these issues.

I'm not using a 030 and I'm getting it using a 060 in WINUAE. And this is when I have removed tinymeter. It just draws everything really slowly, takes a long time for icons to appear. Removing the tinymeter stopped CPU going over 100% in WINUAE sure, but the mouse pointer lag and time it takes to draw windows is still very slow.

****edit**** so if I don't have the RTG card should I just get rid of RTG.library? Where is it stored and I will remove to see if it sorts shit out?

rabidgerry · 01 July 2021, 13:39

Found it, but it made no different putting it into storage.

rabidgerry · 01 July 2021, 15:30

Installed the new v2.0.2 but still same issue

However I figured out WTF was going on with Dopus. So I double click everything, so when I was double clicking Dopus along the bottom I was getting two instances of it opening up. I'm just so used with double clicking. Anyway I change this?

samplist · 01 July 2021, 18:13

@rabidgerry have you tried removing the Native Monitor driver from Devs/Monitors?

rabidgerry · 01 July 2021, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by samplist

@rabidgerry have you tried removing the Native Monitor driver from Devs/Monitors?

I have not, but I will

rabidgerry · 01 July 2021, 18:55

I removed that, seems quicker now I think. Still get ghost mouse point though but it's moving quicker. I might always get ghost mouse pointer though so I will need to check another config.

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 July 2021, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabidgerry

****edit**** so if I don't have the RTG card should I just get rid of RTG.library? Where is it stored and I will remove to see if it sorts shit out?

If you don't have an RTG system the RTG.library should be ignored, what you are experiencing I have also experienced.

In my opinion OS 3.2 must be installed Clean and then build on top of it what you need, any mixing with other OS generate strange slowdowns.

rabidgerry · 01 July 2021, 21:16

Yes I agree. All installs I have created are fresh OS3.2 onto blank HDF.

No install over anything else. Even though you are supposed to be able to do that.

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 July 2021, 21:30

Install the applications one at a time so that you can quickly locate the problematic software.

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 July 2021, 22:40

Tried some higher performance software on a Clean OS 3.2 and everything works fast

fitzsteve · 01 July 2021, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Tried some higher performance software on a Clean OS 3.2 and everything works fast

looks awesome nice work

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 July 2021, 23:19

It can be done better, I did a quick thing to test some apps, there are inconsistencies on graphics and fonts because those programs had the settings on my AfA One, however they all worked fine.

AMIGASYSTEM · 02 July 2021, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

looks awesome nice work

Now it's already better

rabidgerry · 02 July 2021, 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Install the applications one at a time so that you can quickly locate the problematic software.

This is not possible with this script.

AMIGASYSTEM · 02 July 2021, 10:25

You have to do everything manually, it takes some time but it's the only way to figure out what is creating the problem.

rabidgerry · 02 July 2021, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

You have to do everything manually, it takes some time but it's the only way to figure out what is creating the problem.

Defeats the purpose of BestClassicWB v2.0.2 really.

AMIGASYSTEM · 02 July 2021, 12:29

Once you find the culprit everything should work fine !

If you install so much software it is difficult to identify who is creating the problem, one application may not work another and thus confuse the search for the culprit.

samplist · 02 July 2021, 20:30

I've just installed BestClassicWB v2.0.2 into my A1200 + Blizzard 1230IV, I didn't notice any weird behavior vs my previous 3.1.4 install, but in UAE I can see the slowdown using rabidgerry's config.

rabidgerry · 02 July 2021, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by samplist

I've just installed BestClassicWB v2.0.2 into my A1200 + Blizzard 1230IV, I didn't notice any weird behavior vs my previous 3.1.4 install, but in UAE I can see the slowdown using rabidgerry's config.

Perhaps something weird in UAE?

It's not like it's a weird UAE setup is it?

guybrush · 03 July 2021, 08:54

This is surprising; thanks guys for going through the process of troubleshooting.

I followed your suggestions, and overall the performances are mildly improved on WinUAE; one thing I noticed is that the devs folder has a ton of printers and keymaps; I just moved everything I don't use into storage folder; just to keep things tidy.

I am going to put the OS image on a SD card and load it on my real amiga to see if the issue is WinUAE or not. I have the same configuration of Samplist; and he is not getting the issue on his real amiga. On UAE I emulated 1:1 my real world amiga, so I would expect them to behave exactly the same

01 July 2021, 22:40	#50
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01 July 2021, 13:39	#42
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Found it, but it made no different putting it into storage.

01 July 2021, 15:30	#43
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Installed the new v2.0.2 but still same issue However I figured out WTF was going on with Dopus. So I double click everything, so when I was double clicking Dopus along the bottom I was getting two instances of it opening up. I'm just so used with double clicking. Anyway I change this?

01 July 2021, 18:13	#44
samplist Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Greece Posts: 83	@rabidgerry have you tried removing the Native Monitor driver from Devs/Monitors?

01 July 2021, 18:55	#46
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	I removed that, seems quicker now I think. Still get ghost mouse point though but it's moving quicker. I might always get ghost mouse pointer though so I will need to check another config.

01 July 2021, 21:16	#48
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Yes I agree. All installs I have created are fresh OS3.2 onto blank HDF. No install over anything else. Even though you are supposed to be able to do that.

01 July 2021, 21:30	#49
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Install the applications one at a time so that you can quickly locate the problematic software.

01 July 2021, 23:19	#52
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	It can be done better, I did a quick thing to test some apps, there are inconsistencies on graphics and fonts because those programs had the settings on my AfA One, however they all worked fine.

02 July 2021, 10:25	#55
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	You have to do everything manually, it takes some time but it's the only way to figure out what is creating the problem.

02 July 2021, 12:29	#57
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Once you find the culprit everything should work fine ! If you install so much software it is difficult to identify who is creating the problem, one application may not work another and thus confuse the search for the culprit.

02 July 2021, 20:30	#58
samplist Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Greece Posts: 83	I've just installed BestClassicWB v2.0.2 into my A1200 + Blizzard 1230IV, I didn't notice any weird behavior vs my previous 3.1.4 install, but in UAE I can see the slowdown using rabidgerry's config.

03 July 2021, 08:54	#60
guybrush Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: usa Posts: 243	This is surprising; thanks guys for going through the process of troubleshooting. I followed your suggestions, and overall the performances are mildly improved on WinUAE; one thing I noticed is that the devs folder has a ton of printers and keymaps; I just moved everything I don't use into storage folder; just to keep things tidy. I am going to put the OS image on a SD card and load it on my real amiga to see if the issue is WinUAE or not. I have the same configuration of Samplist; and he is not getting the issue on his real amiga. On UAE I emulated 1:1 my real world amiga, so I would expect them to behave exactly the same

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