Crash when enabling Cycel-exact (Full) 4.10.x?

BarryB · 16 February 2023, 16:30

Anyone else had this happen?

Had this happen quite a few times, using the default 1.3 config in WinUAE 4.10.1

I load WinUAE then load a game and realise I need Cycle-exact (Full) so hit F12, select Chipset, tick Cycle-exact (Full) then click Reset and WinUAE crashes and creates a mini dump!

Similarly, if a game is still loading and I do the above F12 > Chipset > tick Cycle-exact (Full) >click Reset, WinUAE also crashes!

WinUAE 4.9.1 doesn't have this problem as enabling Cycle-exact (Full) and resetting works as expected whether the game has loaded or is still loading.

Mclane · 16 February 2023, 16:42

Nope, all working here, tried both ways you mentioned.

BarryB · 17 February 2023, 12:02

Strange, 4.9.1 works yet 4.10.1 doesn't for me, may be another reason to ditch Windows 11?

Toni Wilen · 17 February 2023, 12:41

Upload the dump file somewhere (compressed) and include or email the url, thanks.

BarryB · 17 February 2023, 15:36

Check PM!

Snoopy1234 · 17 February 2023, 16:56

WinUAE 4.10.0 x64 doesn't update ROM when changing from A500 to A1200 in Quickstart.
crashes when changing from cycle-exact to fastest cpu (+ vice versa)
and restart or reset. (Quickstart)
It seems not to be updating emulator caches or the like.

Games tested: Wonderboy(2023), Motorola Invaders 2.

Toni Wilen · 17 February 2023, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

I load WinUAE then load a game and realise I need Cycle-exact (Full) so hit F12, select Chipset, tick Cycle-exact (Full) then click Reset and WinUAE crashes and creates a mini dump!

Similarly, if a game is still loading and I do the above F12 > Chipset > tick Cycle-exact (Full) >click Reset, WinUAE also crashes!

I can't see how this can happen without also changing CPU type (see below).
What CPU model/config?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopy1234

crashes when changing from cycle-exact to fastest cpu (+ vice versa) and restart or reset. (Quickstart)

I can duplicate this but this is not 100% same as OP's problem (crash is same as in OP's dump file but this crash "requires" also CPU model change). This is fixed.

BarryB · 17 February 2023, 22:27

I use Quickstart, Model: A500 + 1.3 ROM, OCS, 512 KB Chip + 512 KB Slow RAM (most common)

CPU never changed (still shows 68000) as I load the game, hit F12, enable Cycle-exact then hit Reset, that's all it took to make WinUAE crash.

Toni Wilen · 18 February 2023, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

I use Quickstart, Model: A500 + 1.3 ROM, OCS, 512 KB Chip + 512 KB Slow RAM (most common)

CPU never changed (still shows 68000) as I load the game, hit F12, enable Cycle-exact then hit Reset, that's all it took to make WinUAE crash.

Which Quickstart compatibility level? (slider position)

Exodous · 18 February 2023, 10:03

I can replicate this without needing to boot a game.

For example:

Start WinUAE x64, open Quickstart and select Model: A500 + 1.3 ROM, OCS, 512 KB Chip + 512 KB Slow RAM (most common)

If slider is in position 2 (one to the right of left most), Set Confugration and get to Kickstart boot screen, press F12, go to Chipset and turn on Cycle-exact (full), then press Reset. Crash.

Restart WinUAE and select Quickstart as above.

If the slider is in position 1 (left most), Set Configuration and get to Kickstart boot screen, press F12, go to Chipset and turn off Cycle-exact (full), then press Reset. Crash.

It also does it if I use A500+ or A600 as the Quickstart, but not A1200 or A4000. I don't have any more ROMs installed so can't test whether the other 68000 based Quickstart options do the same.

BarryB · 18 February 2023, 12:44

@Toni: Slider is 2nd from the left.

@Exodus: Yes, that method crashes for me too!

Tried both 32bit & 64bit builds of WinUAE 4.10.1 with A500 + 1.3 OCS, 512k Chip + 512k Fast config and both will crash when changing Cycle-exact and clicking Reset (2nd position on the slider).

Slider set to 4th (far right) position or 3rd position does not crash WinUAE when ticking Cycle-exact and resetting!

Slider set to 1st (far left) position automatically sets Cycle-exact, but starting WinUAE to the Kickstart screen then unticking Cycle-exact then clicking Reset will also crash WinUAE!

So it appears to be an issue with the compatibility slider in 1st or 2nd position!

Toni Wilen · 18 February 2023, 12:48

Ah, it was same crash and same reason but different "trigger".

16 February 2023, 16:30	#1
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Crash when enabling Cycel-exact (Full) 4.10.x? Anyone else had this happen? Had this happen quite a few times, using the default 1.3 config in WinUAE 4.10.1 I load WinUAE then load a game and realise I need Cycle-exact (Full) so hit F12, select Chipset, tick Cycle-exact (Full) then click Reset and WinUAE crashes and creates a mini dump! Similarly, if a game is still loading and I do the above F12 > Chipset > tick Cycle-exact (Full) >click Reset, WinUAE also crashes! WinUAE 4.9.1 doesn't have this problem as enabling Cycle-exact (Full) and resetting works as expected whether the game has loaded or is still loading.

18 February 2023, 12:44	#11
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	@Toni: Slider is 2nd from the left. @Exodus: Yes, that method crashes for me too! Tried both 32bit & 64bit builds of WinUAE 4.10.1 with A500 + 1.3 OCS, 512k Chip + 512k Fast config and both will crash when changing Cycle-exact and clicking Reset (2nd position on the slider). Slider set to 4th (far right) position or 3rd position does not crash WinUAE when ticking Cycle-exact and resetting! Slider set to 1st (far left) position automatically sets Cycle-exact, but starting WinUAE to the Kickstart screen then unticking Cycle-exact then clicking Reset will also crash WinUAE! So it appears to be an issue with the compatibility slider in 1st or 2nd position! Last edited by BarryB; 18 February 2023 at 13:17.

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16 February 2023, 16:42	#2
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Nope, all working here, tried both ways you mentioned.

17 February 2023, 12:02	#3
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Strange, 4.9.1 works yet 4.10.1 doesn't for me, may be another reason to ditch Windows 11?

17 February 2023, 12:41	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Upload the dump file somewhere (compressed) and include or email the url, thanks.

17 February 2023, 15:36	#5
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Check PM!

17 February 2023, 16:56	#6
Snoopy1234 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Australia Age: 51 Posts: 836	WinUAE 4.10.0 x64 doesn't update ROM when changing from A500 to A1200 in Quickstart. crashes when changing from cycle-exact to fastest cpu (+ vice versa) and restart or reset. (Quickstart) It seems not to be updating emulator caches or the like. Games tested: Wonderboy(2023), Motorola Invaders 2.

17 February 2023, 22:27	#8
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	I use Quickstart, Model: A500 + 1.3 ROM, OCS, 512 KB Chip + 512 KB Slow RAM (most common) CPU never changed (still shows 68000) as I load the game, hit F12, enable Cycle-exact then hit Reset, that's all it took to make WinUAE crash.

18 February 2023, 10:03	#10
Exodous Registered User Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Leicester / England Posts: 201	I can replicate this without needing to boot a game. For example: Start WinUAE x64, open Quickstart and select Model: A500 + 1.3 ROM, OCS, 512 KB Chip + 512 KB Slow RAM (most common) If slider is in position 2 (one to the right of left most), Set Confugration and get to Kickstart boot screen, press F12, go to Chipset and turn on Cycle-exact (full), then press Reset. Crash. Restart WinUAE and select Quickstart as above. If the slider is in position 1 (left most), Set Configuration and get to Kickstart boot screen, press F12, go to Chipset and turn off Cycle-exact (full), then press Reset. Crash. It also does it if I use A500+ or A600 as the Quickstart, but not A1200 or A4000. I don't have any more ROMs installed so can't test whether the other 68000 based Quickstart options do the same.

18 February 2023, 12:48	#12
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Ah, it was same crash and same reason but different "trigger".

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