Magick & scavengers- cancelled ppc amiga games

Adrian Browne · 14 November 2022, 19:45

Hi, i have the two tech demos from cancelled amiga ppc games from pagan software- i have permission to release those to the community minus the source codes.
Who can test these for me and see if they run etc and where can we archive store those for users to download etc?

Feel free to message me etc.

TCD · 14 November 2022, 19:55

Once they are tested you can upload them to Turran's FTP. You can also just upload them to the zone as it is automatically saved to the FTP afterwards.

Matt_H · 14 November 2022, 21:54

Neat stuff! Put them on Aminet as well.

Gzegzolka · 14 November 2022, 22:06

Another great news,I would love to see them

Reynolds · 15 November 2022, 08:54

Me too, can't wait to give some fresh stuff for my PPCs.

Adrian Browne · 15 November 2022, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reynolds

Me too, can't wait to give some fresh stuff for my PPCs.

I sent you a dropbox link via PM. Let me know if you get them running- perhaps make a quick video if you can. I guess these should be updated on HOL- they are not listed there at all.

Reynolds · 16 November 2022, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Browne

I sent you a dropbox link via PM. Let me know if you get them running- perhaps make a quick video if you can. I guess these should be updated on HOL- they are not listed there at all.

Tonight I will boot up my A4000 and check them, making vids and reporting the result.

kriz · 16 November 2022, 10:05

Nice find, looking forward to see these 2

TCD · 16 November 2022, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Browne

I guess these should be updated on HOL- they are not listed there at all.

If you could provide info about those two games it would be really appreciated. Also some screenshots would be great as I don't have a PPC setup for WinUAE ready (yet).

Reynolds · 16 November 2022, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

If you could provide info about those two games it would be really appreciated. Also some screenshots would be great as I don't have a PPC setup for WinUAE ready (yet).

I'll try to make some, also some videos.

TCD · 16 November 2022, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reynolds

I'll try to make some, also some videos.

That would be great

Reynolds · 16 November 2022, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

That would be great

I'll be on it.

Hopefully SGrab will be able to do the task.

Reynolds · 16 November 2022, 11:37

Until then:

http://www.amigaflame.com/amipag.htm

utri007 · 16 November 2022, 14:46

Few years back they were looking coders to finnish these projects.

Is that still option or could sources released also?

Adrian Browne · 17 November 2022, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

Few years back they were looking coders to finnish these projects.

Is that still option or could sources released also?

If someone genuinely was to try finish these maybe- but I imagine they are fairly incomplete as is and might be tons of work to finish.

Reynolds · 17 November 2022, 08:25

As the community still have a lot of really good coders, hopefully something will happen positively on these.

I've tried to run the two packs yesterday afternoon, it made sense only to make videos about Magick, so here they goes:

[ Show youtube player ]
[ Show youtube player ]
[ Show youtube player ]

What I found so far... Magick is definitely a 68K version with no HW acceleration. The engine gives a small amount of infos after quit, regarding calculated polygons, etc, where it shows 0 done by HW render. Haven't found any keys to modify settings other than movements and turning with DEL/HELP and the arrow keys, and fog density can be set with numeric pad's + and -.
Tried two separate versions, the only difference was the on screen FPS counter, which never went under 20 FPS. The engine itself opens a 320x240 sized RTG screen, don't know if it could work on AGA, had no more time yet but will check later on.

Scavengers is a more interesting animal. The archive contains both the 68K and PPC renderer, with one object and a texture file. The 68K version opens a window in WB, with corrupted gfx, as the spaceship's colours are purple-ish. The 3 keys mentioned in the basic txt included are "C", "L" and "M", which are change between texture and shading on the object, changing the lights and switching between dual and single screenmode. The window can be resized when the render is resized too, the speed although really slow anyway. No interaction, the object spins and moves toward the camera and over.
The PPC version just opened a black screen, but nothing else happened. Found the OS window close button on the top left, but it just can't work and the whole program seems to hang from then. Multitask is still on, so I was able to switch between WB and it's screen. Started it from WB by double clicking on the icon, but did not think on increasing stack nor check with SnoopDOS if anything goes wrong, so that will happen later.

Reynolds · 17 November 2022, 19:40

I have to download sgrab to make real screenshots, instead of these camera photos. But at least something interesting we have again. ?

utri007 · 17 November 2022, 20:44

How about Dafel: Bloodline? I believe it was most complete?

Thanks!

Adrian Browne · 17 November 2022, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

How about Dafel: Bloodline? I believe it was most complete?

Thanks!

No, it was not complete- I believe the source code is lost- I have a World of amiga build and a more advanced 4.2 beta. RTG support was planned too.

I have decided in conjunction with the developers to release these via Amiga Addict magazine with an accompanying article written by myself.

It will be a timed exclusive after which it will be free to everyone.

Reynolds · 18 November 2022, 08:07

Woohoo!

14 November 2022, 19:45	#1
Adrian Browne Jackie Chan Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland Age: 45 Posts: 950	Magick & scavengers- cancelled ppc amiga games Hi, i have the two tech demos from cancelled amiga ppc games from pagan software- i have permission to release those to the community minus the source codes. Who can test these for me and see if they run etc and where can we archive store those for users to download etc? Feel free to message me etc.

17 November 2022, 19:40	#17
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 45 Posts: 943	I have to download sgrab to make real screenshots, instead of these camera photos. But at least something interesting we have again. ? Last edited by Reynolds; 23 February 2023 at 14:14.

18 November 2022, 08:07	#20
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 45 Posts: 943	Woohoo! Last edited by Reynolds; 18 November 2022 at 08:23.

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14 November 2022, 19:55	#2
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 45 Posts: 28,036	Once they are tested you can upload them to Turran's FTP. You can also just upload them to the zone as it is automatically saved to the FTP afterwards.

14 November 2022, 21:54	#3
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 850	Neat stuff! Put them on Aminet as well.

14 November 2022, 22:06	#4
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,640	Another great news,I would love to see them

15 November 2022, 08:54	#5
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 45 Posts: 943	Me too, can't wait to give some fresh stuff for my PPCs.

16 November 2022, 10:05	#8
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,071	Nice find, looking forward to see these 2

16 November 2022, 11:37	#13
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 45 Posts: 943	Until then: http://www.amigaflame.com/amipag.htm

16 November 2022, 14:46	#14
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,547	Few years back they were looking coders to finnish these projects. Is that still option or could sources released also?

17 November 2022, 08:25	#16
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 45 Posts: 943	As the community still have a lot of really good coders, hopefully something will happen positively on these. I've tried to run the two packs yesterday afternoon, it made sense only to make videos about Magick, so here they goes: [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ] What I found so far... Magick is definitely a 68K version with no HW acceleration. The engine gives a small amount of infos after quit, regarding calculated polygons, etc, where it shows 0 done by HW render. Haven't found any keys to modify settings other than movements and turning with DEL/HELP and the arrow keys, and fog density can be set with numeric pad's + and -. Tried two separate versions, the only difference was the on screen FPS counter, which never went under 20 FPS. The engine itself opens a 320x240 sized RTG screen, don't know if it could work on AGA, had no more time yet but will check later on. Scavengers is a more interesting animal. The archive contains both the 68K and PPC renderer, with one object and a texture file. The 68K version opens a window in WB, with corrupted gfx, as the spaceship's colours are purple-ish. The 3 keys mentioned in the basic txt included are "C", "L" and "M", which are change between texture and shading on the object, changing the lights and switching between dual and single screenmode. The window can be resized when the render is resized too, the speed although really slow anyway. No interaction, the object spins and moves toward the camera and over. The PPC version just opened a black screen, but nothing else happened. Found the OS window close button on the top left, but it just can't work and the whole program seems to hang from then. Multitask is still on, so I was able to switch between WB and it's screen. Started it from WB by double clicking on the icon, but did not think on increasing stack nor check with SnoopDOS if anything goes wrong, so that will happen later.

17 November 2022, 20:44	#18
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,547	How about Dafel: Bloodline? I believe it was most complete? Thanks!

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