Best cracking group - Page 4

22 October 2001, 14:34

Yeah. I thought it was

When dreams come True

I can't remember

Amiga1992 · 22 October 2001, 19:14

It is "When dreams come true"

Shatterhand: That ain't the tunnel they were originally talking about methinks! The tunnel that appears in that cracktro is the one you see at the highscore table.

Anyway, that was a really good read! I dont have that The One issue, otherwise I would have scanned it

I really should fill the gaps, I have a lot of issues but not all

Codetapper: Simon Byron was a staffer at The One

Carlos Ace · 23 October 2001, 01:15

Quote:

Originally posted by LaundroMat

When dreams come through!

Well, well, well, some people have some doubts

about what i said ...

ok, i invite to see their site: Fairlight

I just add the "the" by mistake ...

Best regards to Galahad (keep up the good work)

//admin: use the "EDIT" fonction of the board next time

23 October 2001, 01:35

:hooooo This still remains as one of my all time favourite cracktros

Shatterhand · 23 October 2001, 08:34

It's 4:30 AM here and I am about to go to bed, so I won't type the rest of the article now

Tomorrow I'll do it with pleasure...

I noticed it wasn't the same tunnel we were talking about, but it made for some nice reading anyway

@Amigaboy

Thx for the info, now I you got me interested in playing MK2 with extra memory in emulators, just to see the extra speech...

23 October 2001, 19:30

Stormlord i worked as a supplier and cracker for groups lie Fusion, Interactive and Delirium.
I know , what i am talking about and you can be sure that i have enough knowledge about cracking and other stuff.....

Amiga1992 · 23 October 2001, 19:45

Shatterhand, do try it. I dont remember extra music but I do remember the extra samples and the cache. All this magically appeared when I upgraded my 600 to 2MB

Another game taking advantage of the extra mem is Uridium 2. LOts of extra samples are loaded to memory (each weapon has now a sample saying what it is, for example

)

Shatterhand · 24 October 2001, 03:52

Yeah, I've noticed that in Uridium 2..

Total Football, a game that has been recently uploaded in the zone, is other one that uses extra memory to add extra speech, more crowd animations and more players animations

22 December 2001, 11:39

I remember a hate-cracktro against paranomia. I think it was fairlight's and they called'em paralameia it may be skid row's as well. I voted for fairlight, their cracks never caused problems for me actually some of them had pal<->ntsc switch function which came quite handy. hmm syndicate had it and maybe hired guns as well. I especially despise skid row's non working goldbox game cracks like pools of darkness. They thought they've cracked it but later in the game, (about a few hundred hours later) copy protection screen appeared.

Kodoichi · 22 December 2001, 11:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Burseg
I remember a hate-cracktro against paranomia. I think it was fairlight's and they called'em paralameia it may be skid row's as well.

'Hatings' towards some groups isn't uncommon. In the Spherical-cracktro (can't remember the group) it says 'Fuckings to the Agnosdick', instead of The Agnostic.

22 December 2001, 23:34

I'm not voting !!! Too many to choose from (including loads not on the list).

But how would you judge the best group ?

1 - The Best Releases (in terms of good games)

2 - The Quickest Releases

3 - The Best Intros (for those who like 'em)

4 - The Easiest-to-Skip Intros/No Intros (for those who hate 'em!)

5 - Best Music

6 - Best Crack (?) Don't understand that - a crack works or it don't!

7 - Coolest Name

The list could go on and on and on.

I say they were all great and they were all bad too.

Bad because if there had been no cracks they'd have been no copying - maybe the Amiga would be a round today if they'd have been no piracy ?

Good because as the Amiga is no longer produced, you cannot get the games, the disks are wearing out etc... - but as they've cracked all these games we can ADF 'em !

Double-edged sword....chicken egg....... !

Too much confusion, no voting from me !

Twistin'Ghost · 23 December 2001, 16:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
I'm not voting !!! Too many to choose from (including loads not on the list).

I thought I'd added more, but maybe I'm thinking of a different poll?

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
1 - The Best Releases (in terms of good games)

When these groups got new games, I don't think they would reject a new release just because it was not to their liking. That's personal taste, anyhow.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
6 - Best Crack (?) Don't understand that - a crack works or it don't!

True, but there are other variables. For example, one crack may have converted non-DOS to DOS, or fixed bugs in the original, or added PAL/NTSC switch, or made more compatible with higher-up Amigas, or the removal (or not) of intros, etc.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
Bad because if there had been no cracks they'd have been no copying - maybe the Amiga would be a round today if they'd have been no piracy ?

This has been discussed at great length here in the past. It is universally agreed that the reason the Amiga went away was bad business practice/decisions from CBM, and not piracy. Mind you, some companies jumped ship claiming that as the reason why, but it could also be said that they were really looking for a larger market (ie, PC, consoles, etc.) And the size of the Amiga market certainly had nothing to do with piracy.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
Good because as the Amiga is no longer produced, you cannot get the games, the disks are wearing out etc... - but as they've cracked all these games we can ADF 'em !

On the other hand, even without cracked versions, the WHD install teams have been providing us with useable, improved hard-drive versions of the games from originals, plus CAPS have a working model for duplicating originals, as well.

andreas · 17 October 2002, 15:00

Hey,

just found Cody's list of crackers here (search option), and as he was so clever to mix up crackers (PERSONS) and crackers (GROUPS) I wondered what Weetibix was. (He made some good cracks, e. g. "F.O.F.T.")
So is that a group or a guy?

- Thanks to the other thread in 'Nostalgia & Memories', I found out that it's a guy cracking for ORACLE.

Cody, could you split up the list into cracking GROUPS and PERSONS instead of mixing them up into one single list?

BippyM · 17 October 2002, 16:57

I voted for Crystal simply because their intros remain in my head (Some were just crystal cracked etc..) but the good ones like the bouncy rabbit etc.. were great.

Fairlight come in close behind (a tough choice!) their cracks were top notch, and they released ALOT of the stuff 1993-1995

As for the others Skid Row were quite memorable and were the first cracking group I remember, as for others Paradox were okay and quite similar to Crystal I suppose (in intro design etc..)

Jan · 17 October 2002, 23:39

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
Cody, could you split up the list into cracking GROUPS and PERSONS instead of mixing them up into one single list?

Personally, I wouldn't waste my time doing that since many freaks already know which is which.

CodyJarrett · 19 October 2002, 00:38

I did that list a while ago - I'm not really interested in the cracking groups anymore, because TOSEC deals with it all and I usually only play stuff from WHDLoad installs...

So, it'll have to stay as it is!

thinlega · 19 October 2002, 16:03

Crystal had a new little melon cracktro and music by tdk every month(ish)........so its gots to be them

05 July 2005, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigaboy

I've always like Paranoimia, but everyone tells me that sucked major ass, so I guess I have to change it

My all time favourite cracking group would be Eaglesoft Incorporated (ESI), but only on the C64

My favourite cracking group in general would be Fairlight

I also loved Crystal, so it was a tough vote, but Fairlight won in the end

I remember ESI not making it so big in the AMIGA.

In my time (1990 and before) Quartex seemed to have the most cracks of anyone.

I was a member of Paranoimia, Defjam and MAAD. We didn't do so bad.

05 July 2005, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodyJarrett

For your info, here is a list of crackers/spreaders. I'm not sure who did what and I really don't care! Check out Amigaboy 2000 and Codetapper! There are probably missing ones too.

Accumulators, The
Ackerlight
Adept
Agile
Agressors, The
A-HA
Alcatraz
Alpha Crew, The
Alpha Flight
Amiga Crew Valbeat (ACV)
Amigaboy 2000
Amigos, The
Analog
Angels
Anthrox
Antiaction
Aspect Incorporated
Assession
Astronut
Backlash
Bamiga Sector One
Band, The
BBC
Beef
Bencor Brothers, The
Beyonders, The
Bitstoppers, The (BST)
Black Hawk
Black Monks
Blizzard
Cabal
C.C.S.
C.D.I.
Champs, The
Classic
Codemaster
Codetapper
Comax
Company, The
Crack Inc.
Cremki
Crystal
D.C.S.
Data Division, The (TDD)
Decade
Defjam
Delirium
Diamonds & Rust
Divina
Doctor, The
Double Density
Dream Team, The (T.D.T.)
Dual Crew
Eagle Soft Incorporated (E.S.I.)
Endless Piracy
Eurosoft
Fairlight
Faith
Fire Starters, The
Firm, The
Fuck Corporate Communication (F.C.C.)
Fusion
Galahad
Genesis
Global Overdose (G.O.D.)
Goonies, The
Guide, The
Hellfire
Heresy
Honey Crew, The
Hoodlum
Clan Of Gods, The
I.B.B.
Ikari
Il Scuro
Inertia
Infinite Perfection
International Cracking Service
Italian Cracking Service
Kent Team
Kontrasoft
L.S.D.
Laser
Legend
Lima-Soft
Lofty
Loons, The
MAD
Mad Monks, The
Magic Arts, The
Mayhem
Medway Boys
Metallians
Ministry
Mongols, The
Motion
Nemesis
New Force, The
Nomad
Nova Aces
Obituary
Oracle
Pantera
Panther
Paradise
Paradox
Paranoimia
PHR-Crew
Piranhas
Prestige
Prodigy
Public Enemy No. 1
Pulsar
Punishers, The
Quartex
Queen
Ramirez
Razor 1911
Red Sector
Replika
Risk
Rockbyter, The
Rod
Sacred Setrox, The
Salamander
Scoopex
Scorpions
Skid Row
Skyline
Softwar Technics
Southampton Cracking Team
Spelljammer
Spreadpoint
Squadron
Steel Pulse
Subway
Supervisors, The
Supplex
Supreme
Switch
Tarkus Team
Technobrains
TFS
Thrill Kill Kult (T.K.K.)
Thrust
Trilogy
Tristar
TRSI (Tristar And Red Sector Inc)
TRZ (TRSI & Zenith)
Underground Network
Unicorn
Unit A
Universal
Unlimited Potential
Valhalla
Venom
Vision
Vision Factory
Wanted Team
Watchers
Weetibix
Wise Man
Zelnik
Zenith

We used to abbreviate Mutual Assured Destruction as MAAD, not MAD.

Not sure what the other A was for. They never explained that sufficiently to me.

commie1974 · 08 July 2005, 21:50

Quartex reigns supreme

View Poll Results: Best Amiga Cracking Group
Crystal	23	10.55%
Fairlight	108	49.54%
Paradox	21	9.63%
Quartex	26	11.93%
Skid Row	25	11.47%
The Company	2	0.92%
Nemesis	1	0.46%
Oracle	1	0.46%
Ministry	0	0%
Scoopex	2	0.92%
Vision Factory	4	1.83%
Bamiga Sector One	4	1.83%
Classic	1	0.46%
Voters: 218. You may not vote on this poll

23 October 2001, 01:35	#64
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	:hooooo This still remains as one of my all time favourite cracktros Attached Thumbnails

17 October 2002, 15:00	#73
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Hey, just found Cody's list of crackers here (search option), and as he was so clever to mix up crackers (PERSONS) and crackers (GROUPS) I wondered what Weetibix was. (He made some good cracks, e. g. "F.O.F.T.") So is that a group or a guy? - Thanks to the other thread in 'Nostalgia & Memories', I found out that it's a guy cracking for ORACLE. Cody, could you split up the list into cracking GROUPS and PERSONS instead of mixing them up into one single list? Last edited by andreas; 17 October 2002 at 15:06.

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22 October 2001, 14:34	#61
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	Yeah. I thought it was When dreams come True I can't remember

22 October 2001, 19:14	#62
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	It is "When dreams come true" Shatterhand: That ain't the tunnel they were originally talking about methinks! The tunnel that appears in that cracktro is the one you see at the highscore table. Anyway, that was a really good read! I dont have that The One issue, otherwise I would have scanned it I really should fill the gaps, I have a lot of issues but not all Codetapper: Simon Byron was a staffer at The One

23 October 2001, 08:34	#65
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	It's 4:30 AM here and I am about to go to bed, so I won't type the rest of the article now Tomorrow I'll do it with pleasure... I noticed it wasn't the same tunnel we were talking about, but it made for some nice reading anyway @Amigaboy Thx for the info, now I you got me interested in playing MK2 with extra memory in emulators, just to see the extra speech...

23 October 2001, 19:30	#66
Toxic Posts: n/a	Stormlord i worked as a supplier and cracker for groups lie Fusion, Interactive and Delirium. I know , what i am talking about and you can be sure that i have enough knowledge about cracking and other stuff.....

23 October 2001, 19:45	#67
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Shatterhand, do try it. I dont remember extra music but I do remember the extra samples and the cache. All this magically appeared when I upgraded my 600 to 2MB Another game taking advantage of the extra mem is Uridium 2. LOts of extra samples are loaded to memory (each weapon has now a sample saying what it is, for example )

24 October 2001, 03:52	#68
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Yeah, I've noticed that in Uridium 2.. Total Football, a game that has been recently uploaded in the zone, is other one that uses extra memory to add extra speech, more crowd animations and more players animations

22 December 2001, 11:39	#69
oldpx Posts: n/a	I remember a hate-cracktro against paranomia. I think it was fairlight's and they called'em paralameia it may be skid row's as well. I voted for fairlight, their cracks never caused problems for me actually some of them had pal<->ntsc switch function which came quite handy. hmm syndicate had it and maybe hired guns as well. I especially despise skid row's non working goldbox game cracks like pools of darkness. They thought they've cracked it but later in the game, (about a few hundred hours later) copy protection screen appeared.

22 December 2001, 23:34	#71
Jim Posts: n/a	I'm not voting !!! Too many to choose from (including loads not on the list). But how would you judge the best group ? 1 - The Best Releases (in terms of good games) 2 - The Quickest Releases 3 - The Best Intros (for those who like 'em) 4 - The Easiest-to-Skip Intros/No Intros (for those who hate 'em!) 5 - Best Music 6 - Best Crack (?) Don't understand that - a crack works or it don't! 7 - Coolest Name The list could go on and on and on. I say they were all great and they were all bad too. Bad because if there had been no cracks they'd have been no copying - maybe the Amiga would be a round today if they'd have been no piracy ? Good because as the Amiga is no longer produced, you cannot get the games, the disks are wearing out etc... - but as they've cracked all these games we can ADF 'em ! Double-edged sword....chicken egg....... ! Too much confusion, no voting from me !

17 October 2002, 16:57	#74
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I voted for Crystal simply because their intros remain in my head (Some were just crystal cracked etc..) but the good ones like the bouncy rabbit etc.. were great. Fairlight come in close behind (a tough choice!) their cracks were top notch, and they released ALOT of the stuff 1993-1995 As for the others Skid Row were quite memorable and were the first cracking group I remember, as for others Paradox were okay and quite similar to Crystal I suppose (in intro design etc..)

19 October 2002, 00:38	#76
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I did that list a while ago - I'm not really interested in the cracking groups anymore, because TOSEC deals with it all and I usually only play stuff from WHDLoad installs... So, it'll have to stay as it is!

19 October 2002, 16:03	#77
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	Crystal had a new little melon cracktro and music by tdk every month(ish)........so its gots to be them

08 July 2005, 21:50	#80
commie1974 Amiga? What's that?!? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Piraeus-Greece Age: 50 Posts: 260	Quartex reigns supreme

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