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TCD · 07 January 2023, 17:03

Good to hear about your friend

All the best for him and a speedy recovery.

Megalomaniac · 08 January 2023, 11:15

Get well soon to your friend. That's more important in 2022 than Centerfold Squares

Weasel Fierce · 09 January 2023, 16:47

I appreciate the kind wishes. Recovery process is going to be long but its looking good so far.

Back to the 16 bits then with:

Testament
I had played Testament 2 a few years ago and ended up rather enjoying it, so I was curious what the first game would bring. I have a big soft spot for early Wolfenstein/Doom clones after all.
I ran into some resolution issues where I could not get the menu to fit on the screen, though the in-game graphics were fine.

The actual game play is kind of plodding but the B movie horror vibe is fun, or it would be if the enemies did not look completely ridiculous. The real problem is movement: Your character feels enormous somehow. Getting through doors is a constant challenge because you have to be lined up exactly in front of it.Its like the door has an invisible funnel in front of it and you have to get your bulk into it before you can get through.

The enemies seem to be as confused as I was, as they constantly got hung up on walls and corners, allowing me to pick them off.

Without replaying it, I couldnt say how much new stuff was added to Testament 2, from memory it was pretty similar but flowed much more smoothly.
2/5

gimbal · 10 January 2023, 11:33

Speaking from experience, smooth collision detection is a tough nut to crack

In 2D even, I can't imagine how difficult it is in (semi) 3D.

Weasel Fierce · 10 January 2023, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

Speaking from experience, smooth collision detection is a tough nut to crack

In 2D even, I can't imagine how difficult it is in (semi) 3D.

Oh yeah, I am not bagging on any developers past or present. Shits hard and even a game that doesn't work had a lot of effort and hours go into it.

Weasel Fierce · 12 January 2023, 19:42

Ive been mostly playing Civilization and Historyline but I decided to grab one at random last night, so we got:

Corporation
Hoo boy. The graphics are impressive in a "its in 3D" sense but nothing actually looks like anything. Combat is blah with weapons that lack impact and enemies that don't show much reaction. On the upside there is a lot going on here. Lots of items, things to interact with and elements that feel more like an adventure game than a shoot em up.

But the controls, oh god, the controls. Simply moving around rooms is a chore and it never fails to feel like you are driving a garbage bin through remote control. Reviews at the time praised the game for not using Dungeon Master style controls but I honestly think that would have improved the game tremendously.
2/5 and thats for ambition mostly.

Weasel Fierce · 14 January 2023, 18:25

As a heads up, I am going to take a bit of a break from the internet, since work is getting hectic. So I shall be back in a week or so.

jotd · 14 January 2023, 18:40

Amiga doesn't connect to the internet. So you can continue playing at least.

TCD · 14 January 2023, 18:47

Taking a break from the internet is a good thing to do when things get hectic. See you in a week

Weasel Fierce · 30 January 2023, 17:09

Okay, while I am not quite back yet I did spend some time playing games.

I decided to pick a game that would probably require reading the manual and then spend a bit more time with it which was:

Skyfox
This is actually difficult to rate. It has some status as one of the earliest Amiga games and it is a rather ambitious title: There's a lot going on in the game. Refuelling, different types of weapons, moving around the map and tackling multiple targets at two height levels. You also have to balance fighting the bad guys with keeping your shields, fuel and ammo topped off.
I think the game tricks you a bit because it looks like its going to be a sim of some sort but its really more of an arcade shooter.

Unfortunately the actual combat is not all that great and the landscape, while impressive for a 1986 game is non existent.

Also the game insists on using a joystick in port 1 which I think is an actual crime or something. It took me a while before I realized this was the case and controlling the game with the mouse is absolutely miserable.

I saw some videos online that looked like it ran slower so Im not sure if this speeds up based on CPU speed. There are a few moments where the game felt too fast but I might have imagined it and theres not that much footage of the game online.

In the end a 2/5 all things considered. If I had gotten this with an Amiga in 86 I'd probably have played the hell out of it though.

Weasel Fierce · 09 February 2023, 17:08

I am doing things a bit differently currently so this thread will be ongoing but much slower (as you have noticed).

Today I bring you
Temple of Apshai trilogy
In theory this should be cool. I like tile based games, I like turn based RPGs and this feels like it had some effort put in with all the room descriptions and whatnot.
But I cannot for the life of me figure out how to survive a single room. 5 different characters all kitted out with swords and armor and the skeleton in the first room just kills me in a couple of rounds. Even with strength and dexterity of 13 or 14 you miss about half the time and your blows dont seem to do enough damage to bring him down.

Looking through the manual, I didn't see anything of note either. I will try one last time by maxing out all the stats and try to suss out if theres some option I am missing but otherwise this one goes back in the bin.

1/5 for now.

demoniac · 10 February 2023, 04:36

I don't remember this game being hard. I only played it for a few hours on the Amiga. Thus, I can't comment on what you are doing differently.

Jope · 12 February 2023, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weasel Fierce

Hugo på nye eventyr
So maybe you have to be Scandinavian for this one, but in DK we had a tv show you could call into and play a video game on the tv, by hammering buttons on your phone. As a little kid, we always came running to watch it.

Hugo was one of those and the Amiga version is pretty faithful to the tv game.

This isn't a big surprise, as the TV game ran on an A3000.

Weasel Fierce · 12 February 2023, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

This isn't a big surprise, as the TV game ran on an A3000.

Oh thats super cool, thanks!

Anubis · 12 February 2023, 18:34

It was the same in Germany, they run Amiga game through phone, while you see game play on TV. Not sure how bad was lag, but kids like my brother really liked this.

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07 January 2023, 17:03	#341
TCD HOL/FTP data slave master Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 45 Posts: 27,076	Good to hear about your friend All the best for him and a speedy recovery.

08 January 2023, 11:15	#342
Megalomaniac Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 368	Get well soon to your friend. That's more important in 2022 than Centerfold Squares

09 January 2023, 16:47	#343
Weasel Fierce Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 661	I appreciate the kind wishes. Recovery process is going to be long but its looking good so far. Back to the 16 bits then with: Testament I had played Testament 2 a few years ago and ended up rather enjoying it, so I was curious what the first game would bring. I have a big soft spot for early Wolfenstein/Doom clones after all. I ran into some resolution issues where I could not get the menu to fit on the screen, though the in-game graphics were fine. The actual game play is kind of plodding but the B movie horror vibe is fun, or it would be if the enemies did not look completely ridiculous. The real problem is movement: Your character feels enormous somehow. Getting through doors is a constant challenge because you have to be lined up exactly in front of it.Its like the door has an invisible funnel in front of it and you have to get your bulk into it before you can get through. The enemies seem to be as confused as I was, as they constantly got hung up on walls and corners, allowing me to pick them off. Without replaying it, I couldnt say how much new stuff was added to Testament 2, from memory it was pretty similar but flowed much more smoothly. 2/5

10 January 2023, 11:33	#344
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 41 Posts: 6,148	Speaking from experience, smooth collision detection is a tough nut to crack In 2D even, I can't imagine how difficult it is in (semi) 3D.

12 January 2023, 19:42	#346
Weasel Fierce Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 661	Ive been mostly playing Civilization and Historyline but I decided to grab one at random last night, so we got: Corporation Hoo boy. The graphics are impressive in a "its in 3D" sense but nothing actually looks like anything. Combat is blah with weapons that lack impact and enemies that don't show much reaction. On the upside there is a lot going on here. Lots of items, things to interact with and elements that feel more like an adventure game than a shoot em up. But the controls, oh god, the controls. Simply moving around rooms is a chore and it never fails to feel like you are driving a garbage bin through remote control. Reviews at the time praised the game for not using Dungeon Master style controls but I honestly think that would have improved the game tremendously. 2/5 and thats for ambition mostly.

14 January 2023, 18:25	#347
Weasel Fierce Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 661	As a heads up, I am going to take a bit of a break from the internet, since work is getting hectic. So I shall be back in a week or so.

14 January 2023, 18:40	#348
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 51 Posts: 7,121	Amiga doesn't connect to the internet. So you can continue playing at least.

14 January 2023, 18:47	#349
TCD HOL/FTP data slave master Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 45 Posts: 27,076	Taking a break from the internet is a good thing to do when things get hectic. See you in a week

30 January 2023, 17:09	#350
Weasel Fierce Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 661	Okay, while I am not quite back yet I did spend some time playing games. I decided to pick a game that would probably require reading the manual and then spend a bit more time with it which was: Skyfox This is actually difficult to rate. It has some status as one of the earliest Amiga games and it is a rather ambitious title: There's a lot going on in the game. Refuelling, different types of weapons, moving around the map and tackling multiple targets at two height levels. You also have to balance fighting the bad guys with keeping your shields, fuel and ammo topped off. I think the game tricks you a bit because it looks like its going to be a sim of some sort but its really more of an arcade shooter. Unfortunately the actual combat is not all that great and the landscape, while impressive for a 1986 game is non existent. Also the game insists on using a joystick in port 1 which I think is an actual crime or something. It took me a while before I realized this was the case and controlling the game with the mouse is absolutely miserable. I saw some videos online that looked like it ran slower so Im not sure if this speeds up based on CPU speed. There are a few moments where the game felt too fast but I might have imagined it and theres not that much footage of the game online. In the end a 2/5 all things considered. If I had gotten this with an Amiga in 86 I'd probably have played the hell out of it though.

09 February 2023, 17:08	#351
Weasel Fierce Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 661	I am doing things a bit differently currently so this thread will be ongoing but much slower (as you have noticed). Today I bring you Temple of Apshai trilogy In theory this should be cool. I like tile based games, I like turn based RPGs and this feels like it had some effort put in with all the room descriptions and whatnot. But I cannot for the life of me figure out how to survive a single room. 5 different characters all kitted out with swords and armor and the skeleton in the first room just kills me in a couple of rounds. Even with strength and dexterity of 13 or 14 you miss about half the time and your blows dont seem to do enough damage to bring him down. Looking through the manual, I didn't see anything of note either. I will try one last time by maxing out all the stats and try to suss out if theres some option I am missing but otherwise this one goes back in the bin. 1/5 for now.

10 February 2023, 04:36	#352
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,559	I don't remember this game being hard. I only played it for a few hours on the Amiga. Thus, I can't comment on what you are doing differently.

12 February 2023, 18:34	#355
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 50 Posts: 3,869	It was the same in Germany, they run Amiga game through phone, while you see game play on TV. Not sure how bad was lag, but kids like my brother really liked this.

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