Games with required HD installation (before HD became standard equipment)

[DaveTaylor]

Originally Posted by Cpt. Hindsight

Well, you better read the Amiga Joker article again...it did not get the bad rating because of its hd requirement.

Yes. It also got a bad rating because it's a bad game. But the HD requirement plays a prominent role. They even write that Disney/Infogrames should be ashamed of themselves.

Back then it was very common to give bad ratings because of high hardware reqirements. It made me shaking my head.

In almost every review of adventure games they used to complain about how often you have to change the disks.

[DaveTaylor]

Originally Posted by DamienD

... Contraption Zack

That's strange. First I don't remember this game. Okay, it's my fault.

But second: it consists of only 3 disks!
It is highly extraordinary to require a HD install with only 3 disks in 1992!
Never heard of another case like that.

Does anybody has any background information about that?

[DaveTaylor]

Originally Posted by idrougge

Exactly. When I saw the thread title, I read it as "Games with required HD installation (before HD became standard equipment)".

Thank you!

Thread renaming is in the works.

[DaveTaylor]

Originally Posted by jotd

after 1995, the other mandatory requirement were loooooong 16 million color palette fade ins and out. Soooo boring.

You're so right. I still not understand why they used to do this.

[DamienD]

Thread title changed as per DaveTaylor's PM to myself

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by redblade

You must of had a beefy big box Amiga back in the day? I thought you just had a A500 with ARC 3 and a A1200 with a accelerator??

Shapeshifter runs pretty well on 68030/50 machines. Yours truly played Sim City 2000 and Sim Tower on exactly that configuration.

[Seiya]

3D games didn't run fluidity on that PC, but graphics adventures also in 256 colors much better than Amiga version in 16/32 colors.

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by Seiya

When some review a game, usally, use the disk version because in the Amiga era, HardDisk are so rare, to much expansive and not all people can have money to buy it.
So wen you review a game from floppy action is broken by floppy accessing.
In a review you have also to search to explain what you see in a game also in 90's and people that read you must be imagine in the mind how it runs thank to your words.
You have also keep in mind that in the 90's some many PC games run at great fluidity also with a very slow 286 with VGA and Amiga games some times not, so you expect much more.




This game for Amiga games library is very good because there is nothing like that: Point & Click adventure with arcade action combat. Amiga version is good but very cut from PC version because they deleted many things that you can not notice when you play, but if review this game you notice.
It remain a good game for Amiga but requiring HD installation maybe some deleted object and animation are not very good.


also Reunion OCS

not Reunion OCS. I have Reunion AGA in original, and the manual stipulates that HD installation is mandatory on AGA, and that the OCS version is made to run from floppies.

[dlfrsilver]

Star Crusader AGA
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo AGA

Those requires HD installation mandatory.

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by redblade

You must of had a beefy big box Amiga back in the day? I thought you just had a A500 with ARC 3 and a A1200 with a accelerator??

No, I also had a towered A1200 with 060 which I eventually sold to Toni Wilen.

The more you know

[DaveTaylor]

Another one:

Tornado AGA (1994)

http://hol.abime.net/1467

The ECS version is playable from disk, the AGA version requires HD installation.

[Overmann]

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

So it might surprise you to know that if you use Shapeshifter the Mac emulator on Amiga, the Mac version of SS2000 runs quite a bit better

Yes, I know, that was how I would play the game back when I had a fast acellerator. The mac-version actually runs surprisingly well considering the PC version needs a 486 to be enjoyable.

[meynaf]

Dungeon Master 2 needs HD installation.

I'm tempted to count Bloodnet AGA as well because it requires so many disk changes it's just too painful to play without HD...

[Daedalus]

Many (most?) of the later Amiga games released on CD required hard drive installation. For example, Foundation, Payback, Napalm, and all the PC ports - Earth 2140, Quake, Descent: Freespace, etc.

[Overmann]

Originally Posted by meynaf

Dungeon Master 2 needs HD installation.

I'm tempted to count Bloodnet AGA as well because it requires so many disk changes it's just too painful to play without HD...

Yes, having HD when playing those huge adventure games really made the experience so much better. Not that it bothered me as a kid. I didn't know what I was missing. In fact I didn't even know I could install a HDD in either my A1200 or my brothers A600, and we played a LOT of adventuregames.

[Seiya]

for sure is very tiring install Biing with only df0: at least they could add the support for external floppy drive

[Nibbler]

Originally Posted by Overmann

19 disks? That is insane!

WET - The Sexy Empire

http://hol.abime.net/3982

It came on CD-Rom , but you had to install something to HD if i remember correctly (does this count ? or only Floppy´s)
(OK, most people at that Time had a HD and alot of CD-Rom titles installed something to the HD )

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by DaveTaylor

Another one:

Tornado AGA (1994)

http://hol.abime.net/1467

The ECS version is playable from disk, the AGA version requires HD installation.

I own the original, i confirm this. HD only for A1200-4000

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

I own the original, i confirm this. HD only for A1200-4000

Yes, you kindly uploaded .ADFs from your recent, original disk purchase

[Seiya]

but there are games that after installation on HD have more extra like graphics and music than floppy disk?