Goldengate 586 (hypothetical) - would you get it?

[eXeler0]

Stumbled upon a video on youtube where some dude plays Doom on an A3000 with a goldengate 486 (+some other stuff).
In the event that some genious recreated and updated the Goldengate card to be Pentium MMX based (lets say 150-200MHz). Would you buy it to play PC games of that era or is the idea best left dead an burried ;-)

[Magic]

Use a Pentium or better SBC and you'll have a much faster alternative that doesn't have to be developed. The drawback with this solution is that the PC is totally divorced from the Amiga.

As I understand it someone is working on the A2386 PCB but who knows if that will go anywhere.

[grelbfarlk]

In most senses the bridgeboards are already divorced from the Amiga. The things a bridgeboard makes it somewhat useful for like sharing keyboard and mouse are not really big hurdles to overcome for putting a Pentium 3 SBC in that has integrated U100 IDE, maybe even a fast-ish VGA chip, not to mention network, USB and serial.

[Promilus]

In most senses the bridgeboards are already divorced from the Amiga

No, not really. What can they access depends on the firmware and software. Theoretically can access basically everything. Just not directly. Would have been fun to see something like Vortex86 working in Amiga and using available pc emulation software.

[Gorf]

Maybe something based on a VSX-6154-V2?
https://www.icop.com.tw/product/VSX-6154-V2#!

(300MHz 586)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex86

[Channel-Z]

Here is an example of A2000 running Duke Nukem 3D > P3 700MHz etc Single Board Computer, Soundblaster 16, 128GB SD Card. Multiboot OS Dos6.22/Win311 and Win98SE

[Predseda]

I would not.

[Gorf]

Originally Posted by SnoopDOS

Here is an example of A2000 running Duke Nukem 3D > P3 700MHz etc Single Board Computer, Soundblaster 16, 128GB SD Card. Multiboot OS Dos6.22/Win311 and Win98SE

Where?

[BigD]

No, my need for Windows and x86 revolves around drivers/connectivity with Smart Phones and the odd bit of x86 gaming and for everything else (especially retro) there is Amiga/Mac! And to clarify that's good old x86 Mac, in order to BootCamp into said x86 Windows environment when needed.

[BigD]

....also, Shapeshifter doesn't need a Bridgeboard! There is nothing that was PC only back then that is of interest that hasn't been ported to Amiga or Mac already!

[Retro1234]

The only thing about these that interests me is some of these were reasonably priced back in the day. Don't know why I didn't get one.

[BigD]

Stephen Jones' Siamese Systems made more sense TBH!

[alexh]

In theory it should be possible to recreate something like an x86 bridge card using PiSTorm accelerator.

[Lord Aga]

Originally Posted by Gorf

Where?

I guess in his writings

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

I guess in his writings

He probably meant this one

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[Calabazam]

SBC are just vampirizing (a lot of) power from the Amiga PSU.

Bridgeboards from Commodore or Vortex interact nicely with the Amiga system and bridge the ISA ports. They work on their own and can share resources such as harddrives, hardfiles, LAN, RAM, in a clever multitasking way.

Besides, there is no point in using a very advanced SBC in an Amiga, such as later than early Pentium, because it would be stuck to slow ISA ports, unless the SBC had its own SVGA option which would be no doubt a entry level one, so no fancy PCI SVGA cards or anything PCI.

It's nice to have a 286/386/486slc bridgeboard in an Amiga to have access to both worlds of this era, but i don't see the point in having a powerful P4 or something like that inside an Amiga, especially as this power won't do anything to help the Amiga.

But if someone is planning to do a new bridgeboard with Pentium, i would certainly be in. There are some old magazines mentionning that Vortex did plan to do that at some point.

[Calabazam]

Originally Posted by BigD

Stephen Jones' Siamese Systems made more sense TBH!

You mean Stephen Jones from Checkmate did the Siamese?

[trixster]

Originally Posted by Calabazam

SBC are just vampirizing (a lot of) power from the Amiga PSU.

Bridgeboards from Commodore or Vortex interact nicely with the Amiga system and bridge the ISA ports. They work on their own and can share resources such as harddrives, hardfiles, LAN, RAM, in a clever multitasking way.

Besides, there is no point in using a very advanced SBC in an Amiga, such as later than early Pentium, because it would be stuck to slow ISA ports, unless the SBC had its own SVGA option which would be no doubt a entry level one, so no fancy PCI SVGA cards or anything PCI.

It's nice to have a 286/386/486slc bridgeboard in an Amiga to have access to both worlds of this era, but i don't see the point in having a powerful P4 or something like that inside an Amiga, especially as this power won't do anything to help the Amiga.

But if someone is planning to do a new bridgeboard with Pentium, i would certainly be in. There are some old magazines mentionning that Vortex did plan to do that at some point.

I’m in broad agreement with this.

I’m lucky enough to have a GG with 50mhz TI486SXLC and despite it being significantly faster than a stock Goldengate or A2386SX it’s still pretty slow (around 386 DX40 to 486 SX25 speed). The way these two board integrate with an Amiga is great though, and a significant part of the draw of having a proper bridgeboard.

I’d love to have the same setup but with a decent actual 486, 586 or even Pentium. One of these would transform the bridgeboard’s performance and make it a really viable pc addition to any big box Amiga.

[Hedeon]

Would be cool for my A2000. My other Amigas don't have ISA anymore....

[alexh]

Originally Posted by Calabazam

You mean Stephen Jones from Checkmate did the Siamese?

Yes Stephen Jones from Checkmate is the same guy who did Siamese with Paul Nolan