Installed 3.x ROMs and.. Nothing on the Workbench

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 15:16

I just installed the Cloanto 3.x ROM chips in my A1200, replacing the Original 3.0 chips that were there. I did it like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gYwVG9srrX8/maxresdefault.jpg

The chips are aligned to the right of their socket, leaving 1 couple of empty socket seats on the left. This is the same alignment the 3.0 chips were in.

Unfortunately, when I boot up my system, I get an empty workbench screen, where I used to get a screen full of drives and drawers and apps and whdLoad and so on. Although I do have a mouse cursor, I can't get a menu of the title bar. Workbench is v 40.42, btw.

What's going on? Any tips? TIA!

fgh · 11 June 2017, 15:19

Missing workbench.library I guess.

www.amigaforever.com/kb/16-125

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by fgh

Missing workbench.library I guess.

www.amigaforever.com/kb/16-125

Oh great, thanks!

I wish the installation instructions had told me that before I replaced my chips, though..

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 15:26

I'd rather not change my chips again, tbh. Can I do that on PC with Amiga Forever 2016? If so, is it hard? (never used it..)

fgh · 11 June 2017, 15:27

boot without startup sequence, copy workbench.library from floppy to hdd. done

idrougge · 11 June 2017, 15:33

Way to go, Cloanto.

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 15:34

How do I get the workbench.library on a floppy, though? I have no fdd in my pc.

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 16:42

Ok, I put the Original ROMs back in and copied Workbench.library (version 45-127) to System:Libs. I have also altered the C:SetPatch line in my startup sequence as instructed.

However, how do I know what version of SetPatch I have? Because it mentions possible issues with versions smaller than 44.16. I'd like to know for sure before I swap my old chips back out, obviously..

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 16:53

Heh, they mention that it might not work with versions smaller than 44.16, but if you register you can download version 43.6b. What?!

trixster · 11 June 2017, 17:02

In a shell type:
Version Setpatch

nogginthenog · 11 June 2017, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by guy lateur

However, how do I know what version of SetPatch I have?

From a shell enter:

Code:

version c:setpatch

This works with most AmigaOS executables, libraries, devices and other files.

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogginthenog

From a shell enter:

Code:

version c:setpatch

Thanks, it worked! It seems I have version 43.6, soo.. can I upgrade that?

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixster

In a shell type:
Version Setpatch

Oops, thanks trixster, didn't see you reply there..

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 18:25

Ok, put the 3.x chips back in there, got 'C:SetPatch failed returncode 20' for my troubles. This is turning out to be one hell of a smooth operation..

trixster · 11 June 2017, 18:32

Did you read the setpatch instructions on the link posted above, post #2?

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixster

Did you read the setpatch instructions on the link posted above, post #2?

Yes I did, as stated in post #8. Update: if I remove all those setpatch statements, I can boot to a normal workbench. It does appear to be slower than usual, though..

What exactly does setpatch actually do, again?

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 19:09

Update: luckily I have the OS3.9 installation CD, so I have copied the setpatch command (v 44.17) from that to C:. I've also reenabled the setpatch code as described above.

While booting, I get an obsolete library message, ie icon.library. And when I try to start something (demo from whdload), I don't see an icon on it, and it says 'bad workbench arguments' when I try to start it. The performance did return to it's usual level, though, so no more slowness while using workbench apps.

But what do I do now? Copy over icon.libray as well?

trixster · 11 June 2017, 20:30

Try peterk's icon.library. It's on aminet

guy lateur · 11 June 2017, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixster

Try peterk's icon.library. It's on aminet

Hey, thanks a lot, that actually works!

11 June 2017, 15:16	#1
guy lateur Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belgium Age: 50 Posts: 334	Installed 3.x ROMs and.. Nothing on the Workbench I just installed the Cloanto 3.x ROM chips in my A1200, replacing the Original 3.0 chips that were there. I did it like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gYwVG9srrX8/maxresdefault.jpg The chips are aligned to the right of their socket, leaving 1 couple of empty socket seats on the left. This is the same alignment the 3.0 chips were in. Unfortunately, when I boot up my system, I get an empty workbench screen, where I used to get a screen full of drives and drawers and apps and whdLoad and so on. Although I do have a mouse cursor, I can't get a menu of the title bar. Workbench is v 40.42, btw. What's going on? Any tips? TIA!

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11 June 2017, 15:19	#2
fgh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 819	Missing workbench.library I guess. www.amigaforever.com/kb/16-125

11 June 2017, 15:26	#4
guy lateur Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belgium Age: 50 Posts: 334	I'd rather not change my chips again, tbh. Can I do that on PC with Amiga Forever 2016? If so, is it hard? (never used it..)

11 June 2017, 15:27	#5
fgh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 819	boot without startup sequence, copy workbench.library from floppy to hdd. done

11 June 2017, 15:33	#6
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,338	Way to go, Cloanto.

11 June 2017, 15:34	#7
guy lateur Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belgium Age: 50 Posts: 334	How do I get the workbench.library on a floppy, though? I have no fdd in my pc.

11 June 2017, 16:42	#8
guy lateur Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belgium Age: 50 Posts: 334	Ok, I put the Original ROMs back in and copied Workbench.library (version 45-127) to System:Libs. I have also altered the C:SetPatch line in my startup sequence as instructed. However, how do I know what version of SetPatch I have? Because it mentions possible issues with versions smaller than 44.16. I'd like to know for sure before I swap my old chips back out, obviously..

11 June 2017, 16:53	#9
guy lateur Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belgium Age: 50 Posts: 334	Heh, they mention that it might not work with versions smaller than 44.16, but if you register you can download version 43.6b. What?!

11 June 2017, 17:02	#10
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,339	In a shell type: Version Setpatch

11 June 2017, 18:25	#14
guy lateur Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belgium Age: 50 Posts: 334	Ok, put the 3.x chips back in there, got 'C:SetPatch failed returncode 20' for my troubles. This is turning out to be one hell of a smooth operation..

11 June 2017, 18:32	#15
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,339	Did you read the setpatch instructions on the link posted above, post #2?

11 June 2017, 19:09	#17
guy lateur Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belgium Age: 50 Posts: 334	Update: luckily I have the OS3.9 installation CD, so I have copied the setpatch command (v 44.17) from that to C:. I've also reenabled the setpatch code as described above. While booting, I get an obsolete library message, ie icon.library. And when I try to start something (demo from whdload), I don't see an icon on it, and it says 'bad workbench arguments' when I try to start it. The performance did return to it's usual level, though, so no more slowness while using workbench apps. But what do I do now? Copy over icon.libray as well?

11 June 2017, 20:30	#18
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,339	Try peterk's icon.library. It's on aminet

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