Commodore announces A5000

zardoz · 11 April 2005, 14:07

Found on LSD docs disc no 46 (1993)

"The Amiga A5000 will be a multi-platform computer that can run both Windows NT and the operating system of MAC. It will appear in the summer of 1994" announced Commodore GB director David Pleasance..

"Commodore have discarded the thought of making it backwards compatible, instead they've put all their efforts into creating a RISC based Amiga which should be able to compete with all other platforms. But on the A5000 the programs will run five times faster than on a Pentium based PC !!!!!!!"

I wonder whatever happened to this piece of bullshit-ware.. I guess Commodore knew the writing was on the wall in 1993 and needed to make something up to look like they were doing something positive.

Unknown_K · 11 April 2005, 14:56

You would need a PPC to run NT4 correct?

keropi · 11 April 2005, 15:09

what's the point in discussing something that never/will exist ??? amiga 5000 my a$$...

ant512 · 11 April 2005, 15:09

Microsoft allegedly had NT4 ported to the PPC, but I don't think they ever released it. Closest thing is the NT kernel for the XBox 2, which obviously wouldn't have been around at the time. Chances are, if there was any truth to it at all, they were going to go for some kind of software/hardware hybrid emulation thing.

Unknown_K · 11 April 2005, 15:16

Actualy Windows NT 4 shipped with support for the following platforms:

INTEL-BASED SYSTEMS

Pentium or faster processor 16 megabytes (MB) of memory (RAM); 32 MB recommended
110 MB of available hard disk space
CD-ROM drive or access to a CD-ROM over a computer network
VGA or higher-resolution display adapter
Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device

RISC-BASED SYSTEMS

Workstation with Alpha AXP, MIPS R4x00, or PowerPC processor
16 MB of memory
110 MB of available hard-disk space
CD-ROM drive or access to a CD-ROM over a computer network
VGA or higher-resolution display adapter
Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device

http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstati...mrequirements/

Only x86 support was kept for Windows 2000 (some betas still supported PPC)

Quite a few companies had projects in R&D that never made it to release for various reasons (just like Apple has a x86 OSX machine in thier R&D lab just in case). IS the A5000 just vaporware or was work on a PPC macchine actualy started?

Mr Kipling · 11 April 2005, 15:18

Ahhh, the RISC Amiga. It was going to be the greatest multimedia machine but it only reached the R+D stage and nothing was put onto silicon. The specs at the time seemed pretty mind blowing, but so too i imagine would be the price of it.

It would of been nice When Escom bought the rights to Commodore trademarks and the Amiga as well that they would of at least looked into the work done previously. Mind you, Escom showed very little interest in the Amiga so it came as no suprise that they didn't release anything.

Theres a link with a bit more info about it below for anyone whos interested.

http://amiga.emugaming.com/amigamen.html

There was one site that had in in depth interview with Dave Pleasance about it and how he saw Amiga's future in the years after 1994, but i can't find it.

Was a v. good read. If i can find it i'll post it.

Amiga1992 · 11 April 2005, 17:11

What a load of bollocks.

Mr Kipling · 11 April 2005, 17:23

I take it you would of rushed out to buy the new Amiga as soon as you could then Akira

.

killergorilla · 11 April 2005, 17:57

Especially if it had awesome Doom and Quake ports 8 years later! Wooosh!

Unknown_K · 11 April 2005, 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Especially if it had awesome Doom and Quake ports 8 years later! Wooosh!

Those would need the $5000 addon that worked on only those 2 games ( at lower rez and detail of course).

Amiga1992 · 11 April 2005, 18:16

lol!

Miggy2TheMax · 11 April 2005, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant512

Microsoft allegedly had NT4 ported to the PPC, but I don't think they ever released it. Closest thing is the NT kernel for the XBox 2, which obviously wouldn't have been around at the time. Chances are, if there was any truth to it at all, they were going to go for some kind of software/hardware hybrid emulation thing.

they probably did port NT4 to PPC cos at work I've seen NT4 run on Digital Alpha boxes. It was scary to see, much more fun running a Digital with unix on it

Amiga1992 · 12 April 2005, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miggy2TheMax

cos at work I've seen NT4 run on Digital Alpha boxes.

But Digital Alpha boxes don't have PPC CPUs!

Unknown_K · 12 April 2005, 01:00

Nobody bothered to read my NT 4 specs above?

"Workstation with Alpha AXP, MIPS R4x00, or PowerPC processor"

I believe that the PPC in question were in IBM type workstations (not the common variety Mac hardware)

12 April 2005, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown_K

Nobody bothered to read my NT 4 specs above?

"Workstation with Alpha AXP, MIPS R4x00, or PowerPC processor"

I believe that the PPC in question were in IBM type workstations (not the common variety Mac hardware)

Some people might remember when around version 5.0, NewTek ported Lightwave to the DEC Alpha...

Maybe part of the decision was the possibility of a future Alpha-based Amiga. I know Dave Haynie mentioned the Alpha in some of his discussions regarding the AAA prototype architecture...

Unknown_K · 12 April 2005, 01:30

The alpha was a nice processor, but never made in quantities that would allow its price to be cheap enough for common household computers (just highend workstations and servers).

manicx · 12 April 2005, 08:38

Alpha rocked. I worked with them for a few months and they were awesome. As Uknown_k says tho, their production was limited and prices were pretty high...

Amiga1992 · 12 April 2005, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown_K

I believe that the PPC in question were in IBM type workstations (not the common variety Mac hardware)

Yes, PPcs have been in IBM workstations for over 6 years in the case of 64 bit PPCs so I imagine 32 bit PPCs have been used in IBM workstations for quite a damn while.

petza · 01 September 2005, 11:51

Zardos U Dont Want To No What People Say About The Welsh And Sheep

petza · 01 September 2005, 12:03

one of the reasons commodore went bust was because they released so many diffenet types of amigas it must have cost commodore millions to develope every new amiga,they should have put the amiga in a upgradable box like the pc's
every comp that has ever existed died of because its not upgradable thats why the pc's and mac's are still here

11 April 2005, 14:07	#1
zardoz Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales Age: 53 Posts: 163	Commodore announces A5000 Found on LSD docs disc no 46 (1993) "The Amiga A5000 will be a multi-platform computer that can run both Windows NT and the operating system of MAC. It will appear in the summer of 1994" announced Commodore GB director David Pleasance.. "Commodore have discarded the thought of making it backwards compatible, instead they've put all their efforts into creating a RISC based Amiga which should be able to compete with all other platforms. But on the A5000 the programs will run five times faster than on a Pentium based PC !!!!!!!" I wonder whatever happened to this piece of bullshit-ware.. I guess Commodore knew the writing was on the wall in 1993 and needed to make something up to look like they were doing something positive.

01 September 2005, 12:03	#20
petza Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK / NEWCASTLE Age: 49 Posts: 230	commodore one of the reasons commodore went bust was because they released so many diffenet types of amigas it must have cost commodore millions to develope every new amiga,they should have put the amiga in a upgradable box like the pc's every comp that has ever existed died of because its not upgradable thats why the pc's and mac's are still here

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11 April 2005, 14:56	#2
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 56 Posts: 1,380	You would need a PPC to run NT4 correct?

11 April 2005, 15:09	#3
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	what's the point in discussing something that never/will exist ??? amiga 5000 my a$$...

11 April 2005, 15:09	#4
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	Microsoft allegedly had NT4 ported to the PPC, but I don't think they ever released it. Closest thing is the NT kernel for the XBox 2, which obviously wouldn't have been around at the time. Chances are, if there was any truth to it at all, they were going to go for some kind of software/hardware hybrid emulation thing.

11 April 2005, 15:16	#5
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 56 Posts: 1,380	Actualy Windows NT 4 shipped with support for the following platforms: INTEL-BASED SYSTEMS Pentium or faster processor 16 megabytes (MB) of memory (RAM); 32 MB recommended 110 MB of available hard disk space CD-ROM drive or access to a CD-ROM over a computer network VGA or higher-resolution display adapter Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device RISC-BASED SYSTEMS Workstation with Alpha AXP, MIPS R4x00, or PowerPC processor 16 MB of memory 110 MB of available hard-disk space CD-ROM drive or access to a CD-ROM over a computer network VGA or higher-resolution display adapter Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstati...mrequirements/ Only x86 support was kept for Windows 2000 (some betas still supported PPC) Quite a few companies had projects in R&D that never made it to release for various reasons (just like Apple has a x86 OSX machine in thier R&D lab just in case). IS the A5000 just vaporware or was work on a PPC macchine actualy started?

11 April 2005, 15:18	#6
Mr Kipling Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Age: 45 Posts: 40	Ahhh, the RISC Amiga. It was going to be the greatest multimedia machine but it only reached the R+D stage and nothing was put onto silicon. The specs at the time seemed pretty mind blowing, but so too i imagine would be the price of it. It would of been nice When Escom bought the rights to Commodore trademarks and the Amiga as well that they would of at least looked into the work done previously. Mind you, Escom showed very little interest in the Amiga so it came as no suprise that they didn't release anything. Theres a link with a bit more info about it below for anyone whos interested. http://amiga.emugaming.com/amigamen.html There was one site that had in in depth interview with Dave Pleasance about it and how he saw Amiga's future in the years after 1994, but i can't find it. Was a v. good read. If i can find it i'll post it.

11 April 2005, 17:11	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	What a load of bollocks.

11 April 2005, 17:23	#8
Mr Kipling Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Age: 45 Posts: 40	I take it you would of rushed out to buy the new Amiga as soon as you could then Akira .

11 April 2005, 17:57	#9
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Especially if it had awesome Doom and Quake ports 8 years later! Wooosh!

11 April 2005, 18:16	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	lol!

12 April 2005, 01:00	#14
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 56 Posts: 1,380	Nobody bothered to read my NT 4 specs above? "Workstation with Alpha AXP, MIPS R4x00, or PowerPC processor" I believe that the PPC in question were in IBM type workstations (not the common variety Mac hardware)

12 April 2005, 01:30	#16
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 56 Posts: 1,380	The alpha was a nice processor, but never made in quantities that would allow its price to be cheap enough for common household computers (just highend workstations and servers).

12 April 2005, 08:38	#17
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 991	Alpha rocked. I worked with them for a few months and they were awesome. As Uknown_k says tho, their production was limited and prices were pretty high...

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petza Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK / NEWCASTLE Age: 49 Posts: 230	Zardos U Dont Want To No What People Say About The Welsh And Sheep

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